Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreigner and Hutch. Like your high school yearbook. Do they still do high school yearbooks, Jake? I don't know. You were in high school a lot more recently than me, so. Okay. I don't know.
[00:00:14] Speaker B: What's the point of going.
[00:00:16] Speaker A: Right, Right. Of course. Couldn't be possible.
Development.
Academics.
[00:00:21] Speaker B: No, no, I don't think it's any of that.
None of that. Just a yearbook.
[00:00:27] Speaker A: We're doing. We're doing superlatives. Superlatives from 2/3 of the season.
[00:00:31] Speaker B: These are thirds of the season superlatives.
[00:00:34] Speaker A: Classic. What a trope. Everyone does two thirds of the season superlatives. Right.
This is called bye week content. We love doing it. We're gonna just get right into it. Signing of the season. Jake Hutchinson, who has been the signing of the season for the San Francisco Jones.
[00:00:48] Speaker B: McCorkle Jones will be my signing of the season.
There's only one other person I think you can make a real argument for. I will and I presume you will.
But I would say Mac Jones kept him afloat, has just been slinging it, has provided a sort of infectious energy and did this incredible like judo Jedi mind trick thing of people being like hating Mac Jones before the season.
[00:01:11] Speaker A: Right.
[00:01:12] Speaker B: Having like him being a meme and sort of the idea that the 49ers were going to draft him and all that.
[00:01:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:01:19] Speaker B: And then he's just been like so affable and goofy and also good at playing, playing quarterback. So.
[00:01:24] Speaker A: Yeah, he has certainly gotten exactly what he asked for with The San Francisco 49ers, which is the Shanahan Sparkle. The Shanahan shine up, if you will. I will say he's still a meme. The, the two. The, the two face suit that he wore.
[00:01:40] Speaker B: Every suit he look, he dresses sort of physically. He has like a sort of physical clothing look like Connor o' Malley, where there's like a level of everything you're like, is that actually form fitting and your body is just sort of shaped like a cardboard box. What's going on there? He's not trying to body shame him. It's just every clothes, every piece of clothing looks like two, like a size too large.
[00:02:05] Speaker A: He's a, he's a barrel chested young man. And as somebody who does not get to buy normal people clothes, I can understand why he does the suit. Let's put it that way. Sometimes you, you need the suit because that's tailor made.
I think as great as Mack has been, don't want to take anything away from one McCorkle Jones.
It's Robert Salah.
This defense, I wouldn't even say it's particularly good, but they give their team a chance to win every game despite being down. Fred Warner, Nick Bosa, Mikel Williams.
[00:02:41] Speaker A: Like my God, like just losing one of those first two. I don't know if Michael really also.
[00:02:47] Speaker B: Also Tatum Bethune and Etor Gross Matos and some other players.
[00:02:51] Speaker A: There was a stretch in the game against the Browns right before the buy where they were down to their fourth string middle linebacker. They brought Jalen Graham who I guess just couldn't get a job anywhere else in. Had to fix his helmet to get the dot IN it and get them. Get the speaker in it and he's not.
[00:03:06] Speaker B: People organized. They were all confused.
[00:03:09] Speaker A: Well, they were like, who is this person?
I've never seen him before in my life.
He was signed at the practice squad on the week of Thanksgiving where they played a Monday Night Football game. They didn't practice before the Browns game. They flew to Cleveland on a Friday. They had never seen him. I'm not sure if Jalen Graham was on the plane to go to Cleveland. They might have had to put him on an American Airlines flight first class to Cleveland. So Robert Sala has been doing an exceptional job with young players, with guys up off the street and legitimately, I don't think I would say that the defense keeps getting better, but they keep surprising in ways that even against inferior competition. Right. The offenses that they faced in recent weeks objectively suck. They have made those offenses look shitty. That is a testament to, I mean.
[00:04:02] Speaker B: The Panthers put up 31 points against the Rams.
[00:04:05] Speaker A: So they think about this, think about the juxtaposition of the three games that the Panthers had played, the book ending games.
They go to Atlanta and Bryce Young has the game of his career. 450 passing yards, plays the 49ers, looks like the smallest man on earth, goes at home and plays the Rams and beats the Rams and looks kind of good in that game. Don't understand it doesn't have to make sense. It's Robert Sala. Robert Sala through and through. And as much as I have said throughout this season, as we've talked about it a million times over, like he's got to wait for the right opportunity. He's, you know, everyone wants to have the offensive minded head coach. I'm not sure how Robert Sala in the course of 14 weeks of football could have done. And to be fair, he was second for a lot of jobs this past offseason. But what more do you have to see? If you're Looking for a head coach in this league, maybe, maybe Robert Sal is not your cup, whatever. But like this guy, this guy's getting another shot. It's just a matter of when. And honestly his stock might never be higher than it is at this moment. We talk right now given the way that the 49ers defense is playing, but how about the opposite of that? What's been the most frustrating watch for you this season?
[00:05:18] Speaker B: Kendrick Bourne, without a question. He makes me mad just watching him play. He whiffs on blocks, doesn't know assignments almost but then makes up for it with like a couple sick plays. Almost had a one handed catch.
[00:05:33] Speaker B: Also just personally I his like aggressively positive energy is not my cup of tea.
[00:05:40] Speaker A: No, not this show, not us.
[00:05:43] Speaker B: We're just, it's not our vibe. Good for him. Good for the journey that he's on. It's just not my speed.
[00:05:50] Speaker A: Luke Farrell is my pick for most frustrating watch because it has been better particularly since they Kittle's been back and they started to use more gap scheme stuff which I think he's better suited for as a blocker. But those first six weeks of the season, Jake, I'm not lying, I have less hair now than I did then at the beginning of the season. It is, it is taking a physical toll on me watching watching Luke Farrell try to play this position that technically he's paid a lot of money to do like they brought. That was like a choice that they made. They thought that he was, they were.
[00:06:26] Speaker B: Confident, they were a little cocky about it.
[00:06:28] Speaker A: He sucked. He sucked so hard for the first six to the point where Jake Ton just was a thing. He was so God awful and now in a lesser role it's maybe just not as pronounced but my God it was really really frustrating and kind of remains frustrating.
[00:06:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:46] Speaker A: Be it in smaller doses to watch.
[00:06:47] Speaker B: Incredibly inconsistent. Some highs, some lows but like more lows than highs for sure. Biggest unanswered question Nick Martin still don't know if he can get off a block at the second level or what he will be because he's supposed to play well and the 49ers have a pretty good will linebacker I've heard D. Winters so if D. Windsor stays healthy, what is Nick Martin's role? He's like been improving on special teams in coverage.
I still don't know about blocking but he's been, he's shown up there, he's had a few defensive snaps, he's made some really nice form tackles but is he a Sam linebacker?
Maybe they'll Keep trying him there. But, like, they seem to prefer Gifford's size and what. And him ideally knowing what they're calling.
[00:07:40] Speaker A: Right.
[00:07:40] Speaker B: So, like, what. What is he? What is he? And you spent the 75th overall pick on him for basically no utility in year one unless he turns into a future all pro player. I remember that. You're talking to a future hall of Famer. You're talking to a future army soldier.
[00:08:00] Speaker A: There you go. He nailed it this time. We tried that earlier this year and you botched it horrendously. And it's. It's honestly. It's honestly bothered me since then. So I'm glad that you got the redemption arc there. I can go a couple different directions in this one, but I'm gonna lay Marquis Siegel on you because you already took Nick Martin. I think that is the right answer. But Marquis Siegel. Because we had so many reasons to be optimistic about him early in the campaign.
And to be frank, while they have now found a safety tandem that is in fact working, I'm not quite sure why Marquis Siegel got benched.
And in the very unceremonious fashion that.
[00:08:38] Speaker B: He was benched and then inactivated.
[00:08:41] Speaker A: Right. As well. It's. I made this comparison a couple of times. It's kind of like in hockey sometimes they say you just got to watch it from the press box. Like go up there and watch it from the press box.
That kind of actually makes a little bit of sense. The 200 foot game in hockey, playing safety, having to cover a lot of ground. But now he's not getting his job back. He shouldn't get his job back this year. But what is he? Is he just a fifth round pick that they tried out and they don't like him and they's never going to come back into the fold. And whatever they can get from special teams from him is a win. Because it's still a fifth round pick.
[00:09:13] Speaker B: Right.
[00:09:13] Speaker A: Or is he this team's future starting free safety or strong say? I don't know. I have no idea. And frankly, I wanted some definitive answers to that given the way that this started. And now we're kind of further away. Every week we get further away from that answer. And it's frustrating because I was buying in. I was drinking the Kool Aid.
[00:09:32] Speaker B: I was too. I. I was too. It seems like a very sharp dude. We'll see. Yeah, we will see. But we're not going to see this year.
[00:09:39] Speaker A: No, we're not. Well, barring injury, which with this team is probably inevitable, most. The category is most.
[00:09:47] Speaker B: Yeah. So most Doing the most, just the most. Juwan Jennings, Juan Jennings. The most injuries, the most sideline related things with the head coach.
The most tight window catches the most punchable, the most interactions with opposing players, called.
[00:10:08] Speaker B: Certain names by opposing players. Just the most overall the most. I, I think it's. Juwan Jennings is a runaway for me.
[00:10:16] Speaker A: It's, it's, it's absolutely a great pick. I do have to go back to a previously mentioned name, Kendrick Bourne the most because when it was going great for Kendrick Bourne, my God.
Come on over cameras. Come on over everybody. Let's talk about Kendrick Bourne and the source. Kendrick Bourne and just the Instagramming and it's like, dude, I, I actually had an interesting. It was like a scrum but everyone sort of dissipated because it was no longer like just adulation for Kendrick Bourne anymore. But I actually had a good talk with him about how like he's not a good blocker and like what's going on there and is Kyle getting on you about this stuff? And he was, he's honest and he's earnest and he's gotten out that positive energy and that's him like it's not inauthentic so I can't knock him for it. But it was even he was like, yeah, I'm kind of playing into all this a little bit. Like he had was 141 yards something to that degree in back to back games and he was living it up. And you know what? More credit to you should, you should live it up when you're playing well. But when people. And he took the responsibility at least privately, semi privately when you know, you bring up like, hey, what about this thing that's really objectively bad. But since then he's been kind of complaining about not getting the ball and you know, staying in the comments section. And at least Juwan Jennings. I agree with you. Juwan Jennings has been a lot, but at least he's like producing a little bit. At least. And at least he's you know, taking his concerns to the analog world which then gets him punched in the balls. Can I also add in one honorable mention in the most category? We're going to stay with the same position.
Brandon Ayuk, both the most and the least this year.
[00:12:04] Speaker B: Receiver.
[00:12:05] Speaker A: What a position.
Better. Better have a personality, I guess. I mean it makes Ricky Pearsall, who got shot before last season feel like he's just kind of floating under the radar. Like nothing going on with Ricky just stayed out of the. He was just injured for a really long time. For no explicable reason except I gave you one.
Just Even the drama of Ricky Pearsall pales in comparison to the three other 49ers receivers doing a lot underrated acquisition. So this isn't the signing of the season. This is the one that's not getting enough love.
[00:12:40] Speaker B: I'm going to go Brent Boyer, special teams coach. I mean this has been an elite special teams unit and again we go back to watching training camp. We were like, I've never seen those drills before.
[00:12:51] Speaker A: It was fun.
[00:12:52] Speaker B: They look like they're really practicing out there.
[00:12:54] Speaker A: We were learning a lot of football at training camp.
[00:12:56] Speaker B: We were like, whoa, that seems like it would actually be helpful on special teams. And lo and behold, Saram Neal's playing well. Nick Martin's made an impact, Gifford has been good.
And then Sky Moore is just having a career years returner like shout out Brent Boyer. I mean there's a reason he stayed with the jets for eight or nine years over four different head coaches. Yep. And they said let's keep a special teams coordinator because this guy knows what he's doing.
[00:13:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm going to go along those same lines. I'm going to stick with special teams. I could say Sky Moore here absolutely. Really underrated though I do think that his game against the Browns and his recent near breakaways have led it to where I think people are starting to give him the love. How about Thomas Morstead, the punter, the old man who you noted this in our Browns post game show is really out there communicating, pointing stuff out. How about John Weeks, the long snapper who's just been absolute money all year and has not gotten into a screaming match on the side of the field. Like what, what a, what an awesome development there. Just a fire hydrant of a man.
[00:13:56] Speaker B: Maybe keep it low key if you're a long snapper.
[00:13:59] Speaker A: I agree.
You know, don't, don't be out here again like Kendrick Bourne in the comments section.
[00:14:03] Speaker B: Just be the most likable. Be like the Bill's long snappers just eating turkey legs.
[00:14:07] Speaker A: I don't think I've ever seen John Weeks actually talk to another person in the Niners locker room.
[00:14:12] Speaker B: I don't think I've ever seen him in the Niners locker room.
[00:14:14] Speaker A: I've seen him. He is, he is a stallion. He is a specimen. And I again it comes across somewhat jokingly but like if you were to, I think that there's an, an aesthetic ideal to a long snapper where it's like this kind of like swimmer long Body. No, I want the man who is shortest and squattiest. That is you are in a squat, you are down. This guy's just fired. He is built to fire footballs back regardless. I think Morstead has been really, really good. We haven't talked about punting I think once on this show. Whereas every week we would talk about Mitch Wisnowski on prior iterations.
[00:14:52] Speaker B: Oh, but he had so many different clubs in his bag.
[00:14:55] Speaker A: Dieter, how about you hit the one damn club?
[00:14:58] Speaker B: How about we hit a single club?
[00:15:00] Speaker A: Well, oh, yeah, I can, I can give you four.
[00:15:04] Speaker B: You just 14 different clubs poorly, right?
[00:15:08] Speaker A: Like master of none to a T. Thomas Morstead, meanwhile, hits one club. That club consistently lands the ball at the 10 yard line of the other team.
There is no fuss, nothing. I know that they returned one on them this year. He was the fastest player on the field on that return. Like Thomas Morstead. We don't talk about him. That's why he's underrated. But he's been really good for this team. And as the games get more and more important and the cheese gets binding and more binding, I think Thomas Morstead and his sage wisdom of punting will come through time and time again.
This is a direct knock on me, but who has been the revelation of the year other than me using the term both revelation and facsimile, which are two things that I'm working on.
[00:15:55] Speaker B: It's a great question. I've been waiting for this question since the start of the season. I just knew we were going to get to the 2/3 superlative.
[00:16:04] Speaker B: Category episode of this, of this program. And Sam Okawanu. Wow, revelation of the year for me.
[00:16:12] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:16:13] Speaker B: He was a revelation last year. I think you were like, oh, who? This guy's kind of coming along. Yeah, he was like playing a pretty important role. Yeah, he's been outstanding this season. And for D line that has had nobody, he's been really damn good.
I just think for a guy who like was a practice squad player, like didn't have a long history playing football and has just sort of picked up all this stuff, like, I'm pretty impressed, Jake.
[00:16:40] Speaker A: You've had a lot of these where I have to agree with you off the top and say, yeah, you got the number one guy. Here's another guy. You missed the mark on this one. It's not to take anything away from the great Samo, but it's Dee Winters and it's Dee Winters with a bullet. This 49ers team spent all off season doing their absolute most to not start De Winters. Everything. They did everything in their power to not have DE Winters be their starting will linebacker. And thank God that they failed time and time again. They're like, dre Greenlaw, we want you back, but maybe not at that number. And, oh, yeah. And then they fly to Texas. Please come back to us, baby. And he's like, I've already given my word. I'm a man of my word. I'm going to the Broncos. Then they're like, okay, that's fine. Okay, well, we really like Dee Winters. That's fine. Let's lose our. Our fucking minds and draft a weak side linebacker at number 75 who should be taken in the fifth or the sixth round at the most, because, well, if we don't get one here, then we won't have a starter. As if just Drafting someone at 75 automatically makes them a starter. And. And then they get him into camp and they're like, well, we, you know, it's fine. We. We love Dee Winters. And then they're talking up Dee Winters left, right, and center. Oh, no, he's so great. He's so great. Well, turns out they were right. Turns out, I think that they were speaking it into existence because Dee Winters has been in, arguably. Can we have the argument that Dee Winters has been their best defensive player this season?
[00:18:04] Speaker B: I think he's. I think that's fair. Yeah. No, I think he has been. He's been their most reliable. I mean, you can make a case for Bryce Huff, but he's missing the games.
[00:18:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:11] Speaker B: Yeah. I think De Winters is a totally fair answer.
[00:18:14] Speaker A: What a revelation. Because again, nobody, certainly the outside world, didn't believe it. What was there to believe? And then the inside world, I mean, even go back to last year when they wanted to. They have devondre Campbell out there putting on teach tape of what not to do at weak side linebacker in the NFL, and they still can't find a way to get De Winters onto the field and replace him. They had to wait until Greenlaw got healthy, and then that turned into a whole thing, you might recall. It's Dee Winters. It's Dee Winters Revelation of the Year. Hashtag revel of the Year. And then finally, Jake, who's the. Remember him of the Year.
[00:18:49] Speaker B: Yeah, this is. This is my favorite one.
[00:18:51] Speaker A: It's a great category.
[00:18:52] Speaker B: Remember him of the Year for me goes to Jordan Jefferson, who barely remember him. Remember him where he had like 12 games and we were like, oh, this guy's kind of got something. There's a little something at LSU kind of. Kind of got some force. He's still like, number two, I think, in my D line rankings on the year. It's like Jefferson in terms of impact per snap. Just because, like, he had two good games and then can't move in the rankings.
[00:19:18] Speaker A: No.
[00:19:19] Speaker B: Yeah. And then he just. They said, all right, well, we don't need you. See you later.
[00:19:24] Speaker A: We're good. We have no answers at this position.
[00:19:26] Speaker B: We used a waiver claim on you, but we don't need him anymore. We got to make some weird roster moves and bring in Andre Dillard on the practice squad and then cut Andre Dillard off the practice squad a day later.
[00:19:36] Speaker A: I feel bad for Andre.
[00:19:37] Speaker B: Dillard has nothing to do with that move, but I just want to make fun of them.
[00:19:40] Speaker A: Speaking of weird roster moves, I could throw two names at you here. Remember Russell Gage?
[00:19:46] Speaker A: He was going to be their number two receiver to start the year.
[00:19:48] Speaker B: Still on the team. He's still on the practice squad, I think.
[00:19:51] Speaker A: What about Marquez?
[00:19:52] Speaker B: Valley just released him. They actually may have just released it.
[00:19:55] Speaker A: I mean, the. The. The turnover of wide receivers leading to Kendrick Bourne was a true who's who of who.
That's what that was.
[00:20:06] Speaker B: Do you want to say the real Remember him of the season?
[00:20:08] Speaker A: Hit me.
[00:20:09] Speaker B: Jake Moody.
Ah, Jake Moody.
[00:20:12] Speaker A: Jake Moody.
[00:20:13] Speaker B: Remember him well?
[00:20:14] Speaker A: Remember him? No.
[00:20:15] Speaker B: Remember when I thought he still played for the. For the Bears? He's on the. He's on the Commanders.
[00:20:19] Speaker A: Well, you don't know what. You don't know what order I'm putting these episodes out.
[00:20:22] Speaker B: Who knows?
[00:20:22] Speaker A: Don't be giving it away.
[00:20:24] Speaker B: By the time this airs, maybe he'll be back on the 49ers.
[00:20:28] Speaker A: Mate, we suggested it at one point. There was a suggestion.
[00:20:32] Speaker B: It was.
[00:20:32] Speaker A: It would have been a great bit.
[00:20:34] Speaker B: I understand. I get it.
[00:20:35] Speaker A: Okay. Signing of the season. Most frustrating watch. Biggest unanswered question, the most underrated acquisition Revelation of the year, and the Remember him of the Year. If you have one that we didn't mention, put it in the comments we.
[00:20:47] Speaker B: Want to hear and go into the Hutch report. I have a. A written version of this with a few different ones. I've got Wrinkle of the Year, all.
[00:20:55] Speaker A: That and no, this way, that way, this one, that one.
[00:21:00] Speaker B: Nice.
[00:21:00] Speaker A: If you click on that, you can subscribe to the Hutch Report. Pay no mind to the duck.
[00:21:04] Speaker B: Look at that. Look at Dieter go.
[00:21:07] Speaker A: Yeah. At some point.
[00:21:09] Speaker B: Technological savant.
[00:21:10] Speaker A: At some point, we will have a professional outfit. Today's not that day. Yeah.
All right, we'll see you in another video. Bye.
