Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Foreigner. No, Hutch.
[00:00:09] We're doing post game. Just got my column in for the Merc. You should go read that. You should subscribe to it. If you are not subscribed to this channel.
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[00:00:26] That was a around game.
[00:00:31] That was a around game for the niners. They win 38 17. One of the wilder third quarters you'll ever see in an NFL game.
[00:00:38] Officiating, not NFL level. I would argue I. I have some takeaways from the game. We'll get into the nitty gritty of it. I think there's a larger conversation to be had as well about what this means for the 49ers going into the trade deadline. But there's a lot of stuff going on. But can we talk about the line judge and the down judge in this game?
[00:01:02] They were way off from the opening get go. They didn't know where the ball was, what it meant to. They had no idea. And it didn't change anything in this game. But man, that was, that was an embarrassing performance from Scott Novak's crew. And now we know.
[00:01:20] If you get number one on the officiating scorecard, look out. It's not like Ron Torbert level crazy, but that was inauspicious. And I actually wonder if when they grade this game out that that's going to cost this crew. A very good crew by the standards of the NFL these days, a Super Bowl. Now that we can get into the actual interesting parts of this game again, a around game for the 49ers. And I don't want to diminish any of the good things that they did by highlighting some of the bad stuff that happened in this game. So let's go through over. Let's go over all the good stuff. They ran the ball with ease in this football game. 43 runs, some of them being from Brock Purdy, who was exceptional as a scrambler.
[00:02:03] Kalon Black had the pop, baby.
[00:02:06] I don't want to read too far into it. It does feel like a culmination of something that had been building up here for a while. Then again, it's the Raiders. And the Raiders have given up more than 30 points in now six straight games. I'm starting to think they're not very good at defense, but I thought Kaylon Black had some real punch and even his four yard carries seem to resonate more with me than regular 4 yard carries. I think it's just because he's an aesthetically pleasing running Back to watch. There's not a lot of fluff to his game. He's in there to inflict pain. That's always fun. I mean, Camp Scatterboo made an entire industry out of it. I can't go five minutes without seeing him in a commercial. Where's Kalon Black's commercial?
[00:02:44] Black goes for 70 on 11. He had some big rippers in the second half. Once everything was softened up, I thought McCaffrey was exceptional in this game in all regards. I know he only carried it for 38 a clip, but he looked really, really good. Again, it's the Raiders defense. I don't want to take anything away from it, but it has to be mentioned in the context of everything. And then Purdy had some moments where he was cream of the crop, MVP of the league.
[00:03:10] I also noticed that Brock just seemed frustrated all game. And it wasn't anything that I asked him about it after. He said it wasn't anything that the Raiders were doing. It was communication issues. It was guys not being in the right place. So some stuff that post bye week you don't love, you don't love to see.
[00:03:27] But again, Brock 17, 25 for 232. He did have a bad interception. He sure does love throwing an interception on that seam corner route, doesn't he? That's his favorite kind of interception. But two touchdowns and a couple of scrambles that were real drive changers, real game changers in the long scheme of things. And then let's give a shout out. Jordan Watkins had his best game as a pro. He had two bad penalties. It doesn't matter when you do what he did in other situations. He had some big catches coming back to the football, had some good blocks in the run game as well. And then the 38, 37 yard rip, write down the seam from Purdy, which, it's funny, the television copy does not reflect this. And sometimes the television copy is actually a better set of eyes than mine. Certainly it feels slower watching a television copy than trying to take into account all 22 plus how many other fights are going on in the stands. All that like. But on that play in particular, I saw cowing go wide open. He was wide open. This would have been like a beat or two before the ball was ripped to Cowing. And I can't say for sure, but it sure looked like Purdy just went, nah, I'm not doing that. But if the ball was delivered on time in the money, Cowing catches it, runs up field and it's a touchdown.
[00:04:44] So he just threw a touchdown to Jordan Watkins. Anyway, it was a hell of a throw. It was a hell of a catch and Jordan Watkins looks like a player now.
[00:04:54] There are larger conversations to be had about what that means and if it should mean anything beyond this game, and we'll get into those in just a little bit.
[00:05:02] Defensively, I thought this was OSA Digizua's best game as a Niner. I thought he was immense in the run game, which is to say something considering that's not his ballywick and was outstanding in the past game. I thought Bosa had a really, really nice game. Apparently there was some online conversation about Bosa kind of being a no show early. I I didn't make that note, perhaps because he was a no show, but the flash plays that he made really, really flashed and Keon White was kind of everywhere. But you're getting the full Keon White experience, the good and the bad. I just thought the defensive line looked really good in this game and had the Raiders really off balance. Fred Warner is as good as it gets. Fred Warner is the single best defensive player in all of football right now. I know Miles Garrett had a really nice game. I'll take Fred Warner over Miles Garrett any day of the week. Don't hold me to that. But it is.
[00:06:00] Dre Greenlaw looks good, not great.
[00:06:04] But when you have Fred Warner and it's not as if Dre Greenlaw is being lifted up by Fred Warner or anything. Dre Greenlaw is a good player in his own regard, but man, Warner was was unbelievable in this contest. The idea that they didn't have any sacks. Let's just quickly bring that up from Luis. No sacks today. Does that give me concern? Not in the least bit. Kirk Cousins wasn't going down. Kirk Cousins would have rather thrown it into the back of Trey Zun than than do anything that would allow him to get injured. Kirk Cousins wears more protective armor than any other player in football. He looks like Barry Bonds out there at the plate with all the padding and nonsense he has on. Every time they cut to Kirk Cousins on the sideline, he got bigger. He looked like the Stay Puft Marshmallow man with all the flak jackets and stuff he had on. He ain't getting hit. He ain't getting hit. Even Bosa was commenting after the game like, you know, Kirk looking a little twitchy back there. I'd be looking twitchy too if I can't move. And we saw late in the game with Malik Mustafa's interception that he also can't throw it deep, but there were actually a couple of nice rips from this in this game from Kirk, all of which should be easily forgotten because he was generally dreadful and I thought Clint Kubiak was uninspiring, to say the least. The running back situation that we highlighted in the game preview really bore itself out in a pretty overt way today, which is that Mike Washington runs zone and Ashton Genti runs gap. And if you just followed the guard, you knew what every play was immediately, which is Perhaps why the 49ers defensive line was off so often in the backfield and the Niners only gave up what oh my, they only allow, let's call it 24 yards on the ground.
[00:07:48] Washington had minus three yards on six carries.
[00:07:53] That's a real thing.
[00:07:54] Genti had 25 on six. That's more or less his normal stat line. 4.2 yards per carry actually is an improvement for Ashton Genti. He might have had his best run of the season for the Raiders on his long of nine.
[00:08:07] Their run game is abysmal and frankly, every time they ran the ball they did the 49ers a favor. But their past game, outside of Brock Bowers didn't have all that much because Cousins wasn't going to stand and deliver at the same time.
[00:08:21] You still saw Trey Tucker work over the Niners corners. You still saw Michael Mayer have a really big head. I mean, he fumbled it because, you know, Upton Stout came in at the end. But like I I was Uninspired by the 49ers pass defense in a game where they should have put on the total clamps. Like every yard that the Raiders got in this game was unacceptable.
[00:08:44] Not to be hyperbolic, but it felt like they shouldn't have been able to move the ball at all. And early on they certainly didn't. I man, I I'm really concerned about the secondary now. Let's move into the negatives. I'm really concerned about the secondary. I thought both outside corners had rough games. I know that Green had an interception that came literally 10 seconds after I turned to Nick Wagner next to me in the press box and said, man, Green's having a rough game.
[00:09:14] Lenore had a really bad PI. He did have a nice tackle for loss in the run game and he can still do that at a very high level and I appreciate that part about his game, but he's been looking shaky on the outside in recent weeks. If this was just a one week thing, you'd say, hey, they're around. It's the Raiders who cares? Who gives a.
[00:09:33] It does seem to be a trend here, and my firm belief that safety is our destiny in this league is not portending good things for the San Francisco 49ers because all three of their safeties got got today in one way or another. I think Marquis Siegel got got the least often, but there were still two or three plays where you're like, oh, Siegel, not so sure about that one. Jair, one on one against Brock Bowers. I. How do you think that went? Malik Mustafa just deciding. Deciding not to cover Brock Bowers. That went pretty well, too.
[00:10:09] There were.
[00:10:11] There were a lot of miscommunications, a lot of broken coverages. And against a team like the Raiders, that has one appreciable weapon, and he is one hell of a weapon. Let's not, let's not, you know, mince words here like, Brock Bowers is awesome.
[00:10:26] He is sick.
[00:10:30] The fact that they couldn't stop him, okay, that says something because what else are you focusing your attention on? And the fact that anytime they did have him bracketed, they couldn't stop anybody else says something, too. It really shouldn't be as binary as, oh, well, we're going to let somebody else beat us. Well, if that's. If that was their ideal, then why did Brock BAUER still get 111 yards?
[00:10:55] And if it wasn't their ideal, then why did these other guys, you know, and Trey Tucker, who had four catches for 55, or Michael Mayer at three for 37. That's it. Jack Bash had one for nine. It was actually a very nice catch.
[00:11:06] Why were they able to get something?
[00:11:08] Very concerned about the secondary and the idea of, oh, well, the Niners defensive line wasn't getting home. It's just. It's just not true. You saw all the turnovers in the second half. It's because Kirk Cousins is throwing the ball off balance, off schedule and beyond the fumbles, obviously off balance off schedule. And it was because of the pressure. It was because of the pressure. He wasn't getting sacked today.
[00:11:32] We would have evaporated into. Into dust had he been sacked today. So the idea of the secondary, like, not getting any help from up front just doesn't jive with me. That's not what I was seeing. And we'll find out. Maybe I was wrong. Maybe the tape tells a different story. I'm very concerned about the secondary.
[00:11:50] I'm not. I. I'm still pretty concerned with the receiving situation. Great to see Watkins break through. But the frustration that I noticed on Purdy all day, like for instance, the play before his interception, he just got really pissed off.
[00:12:09] And I don't think it was at Kyle. There were a couple times where he got pissed off at Kyle because of. And I think it might have even just been technical difficulties.
[00:12:18] Pissed off at Kyle because the play call wasn't getting in. He had to take a time out early in the game because play call needed to be repeated. He couldn't hear all that well or he couldn't hear Kyle all that well. And then they had to call a timeout because it was under 15 seconds and that's when the headset cuts off.
[00:12:33] But there were a couple times where you'd saw Brock both in person and then certainly on tv when they zoomed in, being like, put it in my head again, I need to repeat it. There were some issues with huddling.
[00:12:46] We saw that on the defensive side at the end of the first half, defense had 12 on the field. And then, yeah, they were, they were. They couldn't really figure out their personnel groupings a lot. It was kind of a sloppy game for the Niners coming out of a buy. And I'll give them some deference. And again, that, like, they had no fear of the Raiders. Like, that was a clear.
[00:13:05] It was evidenced by their performance offensively and defensive early. They had no fear of the Raiders whatsoever. And perhaps they were just messing around all week. I mean, it's hard to lock in when you know that you don't have anything to really fear that you'll win going away.
[00:13:19] But again, not, not ideal. And all of this would just be washed away if Tuesday wasn't the trade deadline, if you didn't have to sort of make a semi permanent or permanent decision on the state of your roster by Tuesday. And how many of the deficiencies that we've seen, not just this week, but over the last couple of weeks for a 7 and 1 football team, by the way, just, just to remind everybody and myself, seven and one, very, very good. But how many of those deficiencies are just bad coaching or, you know, miscommunications, things like that? And how many of them are fundamental flaws to their roster because they cannot make major roster additions after Tuesday, not, not to where they can reasonably think they're adding an impact player?
[00:14:02] And this game, I think if you looked at the final scoreline, you'd be like, oh, the Niners are fine. Having watched this game and being kind of the pessimist I'm at and having just sort of taken the trend of this team over the last couple weeks, Starting with Washington, then obviously Atlanta, and now this game.
[00:14:19] It's hard to make the argument that they still don't need more and that this isn't something close to a last hurrah for this group. And if not now, when?
[00:14:33] Like, I. I can appre. No one loves draft picks more than your boy. No one can appreciate making sure that your future is settled more than me. I. I don't want the Niners to bottom out. That'd be bad for business.
[00:14:45] But if you're gonna do it, you got to do it now.
[00:14:51] And this team in a wide open NFL and a wide open nfc. Though it does seem as if some other teams have decided to get their act together in Chicago and Green Bay and a few others.
[00:15:02] If.
[00:15:04] If they want to go in with what they have, I don't think it's going to be good enough. I don't think that they put the odds in their favor. And if they want to nut up, take on the risk and go for it, it might not work out for them, but at least they'd improve their odds significantly.
[00:15:23] And again, if not now, when?
[00:15:28] Like, next year?
[00:15:31] Sorry. Like, I. I can't buy it. I can't buy it. This is. You got. You got a bunch of contracts that you're gonna have to deal with.
[00:15:39] It really feels like this is the time to go all in. If you're the Niners and you have to be prudent about it. But prudence is for losers, man.
[00:15:50] Like, you know you're trying to win a Super bowl, and I know seven and one speaks volumes. It tells you that you're good enough. I just don't know if this good enough is good enough. And maybe it is, and they'll be proven correct. But I'd want to add some more insulation before it turns to winter, man. That's where I'm at with this team right now. I'd want to add some more insulation. I don't think that the issues at safety are just. You can coach it out of them. I think Jair Brown is what Jair Brown is.
[00:16:21] I don't think that they trust Marquis Siegel enough to be a full time replacement for him. Otherwise he would have been by now.
[00:16:28] Right. Like, clearly it's a two way street here with both Jair and Siegel. I can have a different opinion on it, but that's my opinion. It doesn't mean squat.
[00:16:38] Upton Stout is walking around with one arm. They kept playing him today because there was literally, they weren't going to do the Ashton Davis thing again.
[00:16:47] There's Nate Hobbs in theory is coming back.
[00:16:52] I would be heavy on the nickel market.
[00:16:55] I'd be heavy in the safety slash nickel market because they're guys like that or you know, kind of safety's kind of nickels. You can bring them into the box.
[00:17:01] I'd be looking for an upgrade in the secondary if you can find an outside corner though I do think Prysock had a really nice play today late.
[00:17:09] I would, I would be in on that wide receiver you can probably stand pat at.
[00:17:15] Especially considering some of the prices that are being tossed around for some of the receivers that are available.
[00:17:20] You could probably stand pat at that. But you do need to bring in another weapon.
[00:17:24] And I'll repeat what I've been saying time and time again. Like I would go get another tight end pass catcher only, blocker only in an ideal world. Give you a little bit of both. I would go get your tong just replacement again. That's not a high bar, right? That's not somebody who you're gonna have to oh, do we have to give up our first round pick to go get a Jake Tonjas replacement? But it is somebody that I think this team really needs moving forward. Just risk mitigation wise because we saw what the Braden Willis, Luke Farrell 12 punch at tight end could do. I, I know, I know. They won that game. Like it. It's not good enough.
[00:18:06] It's not good enough. If Kyle Use check goes out for any reason, they don't have a backup fullback to where they can run the way that they want to run the football.
[00:18:14] If George Kittle is in any way limited, they don't have somebody that Brock can throw the ball to on the inside of the field. Like they don't have anybody like that.
[00:18:24] And if they really wanted to just go all in on running the ball from the outside.
[00:18:29] Offensive line was very good today. Connor Colby was very good today. And again we'll see with the tape. Jake will grade it all out and all that good stuff. But like, don't you want to have a little bit extra oomph there?
[00:18:41] I'm not saying you have to do all of these things, but you do need to do some of these things. And again, I just don't think that coaching is going to find the answers at this point that we're nine weeks in.
[00:18:53] We're nine weeks in. They don't. They barely practice at this juncture of the season. Right. They just came off a buy and they look kind of sloppy and they look kind of just disjointed they look kind of out of sorts. And when it was on, it was really on. But again, they were playing the Raiders. That's not a litmus test. The Raiders wins are against like the jets, the Dolphins and the Chargers. And there's one other crappy team that they've beat. Like they haven't beaten anybody of any, of any rapport.
[00:19:18] And now next week, maybe Dallas is the same thing, but Minnesota and Seattle and another game against the Rams, whatever the hell that's worth, we'll find out. Like, there are some teams on the remainder of the schedule that, that should put a little bit of fear into you. And certainly once you get into January in the NFC playoffs, which this team's obviously going to, and they might be hosting all the games, those are, those are contests where this level of around just won't, won't work.
[00:19:47] It won't work at all.
[00:19:48] There's a lot of good stuff that's going on with this football team. They're by no means scrubs.
[00:19:54] I'm sure a lot of people will infer this as, oh, they're scrubs. I, I just think that they need to go all in on this year and I've held off on that. I think they've held off on that for a while. I think this game was a pretty clear indication that they can be good. But greatness is not guaranteed and wide open. Do you want to play the roulette wheel or do you want to just be the cream of the crop beyond what your record says? Do you want, do you want to have some depth and some insulation? Would you rather be over prepared for what could come down the line or play it by ear?
[00:20:31] Because again, I do think that, you know, the draft picks are important for this team, but like, great. Now you have a rookie in 2027.
[00:20:42] Is he going to help you win the super bowl this year? No. You have a real shot to win the super bowl this year and you have some needs that really still need to be addressed. Thank goodness they got divorced. Buckner with Grayson Halton going out. That sucks. That sucks.
[00:20:55] But stuff like that's going to keep happening. It's football.
[00:20:58] And there are a couple spots on this team that at the high end aren't good enough. And certainly when you look at the, the depth of the roster, like they could use some upgrading there and you don't want to be trying, you know, you don't want to be doing what they did last year when it came to like linebacker and signing dudes off the street and playing them in playoff games. How many times you think you're going to get away with that? I doubt it's going to be three or four times.
[00:21:20] I really do. Once. Sure, three or four times. No, no, no. That's just not how this thing works.
[00:21:30] Every team has flaws this year. No monsters. Totally true. Totally true.
[00:21:35] That doesn't mean that you shouldn't better yourself.
[00:21:39] That doesn't mean that the bar is any way lower. It just means that you're in a position where, yeah, you're one of many, and you might be the best of many right now.
[00:21:48] Don't you want to separate yourself? Don't you want to create a clear line of delineation between you and the rest?
[00:21:54] Because none of this is static, right? But there is a deadline. Like, you're not adding a player the caliber of which you can get before Tuesday at noon Pacific time. God's. God's time zone.
[00:22:08] You're not getting that kind of a player at 1201.
[00:22:14] You're getting guys who are hanging out on the street.
[00:22:17] And so, yeah, you have as good of a shot as anybody. You might have a better shot than anybody. That's all the more reason, I would say, to push your chips to the middle of the table, because you're not chasing anybody.
[00:22:29] Create some separation, create some distance. Give yourself some cushion. Give yourself the opportunity to. To come back a little bit. Because right now, if they keep going forward and they have to come back a little bit because of a badly placed injury or because some of the stuff that they're putting on tape is going to get exploited by better teams, then when you're looking at that draft pick and saying, why the hell am I still holding on to this? And again, there's a level of prudence that has to be maintained. Right. Again, you're not saying, you know, take the first and the second and go all in, you know, go out and get Jonathan Taylor or something. I'm not saying anything like that. But there's a couple of spots where you got to throw some caution to the wind.
[00:23:09] And if I had to prioritize it, I would say that you need to bring in another tight end, and I know that they're active in doing that. And I would say that you need to bring in somebody else in the secondary with a priority being at safety, but outside corner and having some better depth there would be worthwhile. Unless you're just going to go all in on Ephesians Price. Both of the outside corners got injured today, right. So now they got a thing and they probably play next week, but they got a thing and things don't go away after week nine, right? Just. You just work through it.
[00:23:43] You have one, you have one corner of depth. You can't play Upton Stout on the outside and Upton Stout only has one arm. So I'd go there, I'd go there. I would look at, you know, all the places where I could prioritize and I would say, okay, we could add it. Wide receiver.
[00:24:01] Something comes along that's perfect, we'll do it.
[00:24:04] But maybe we stand pat there defensive line. Everyone's interested in defensive line all the time. Something perfect comes, yeah, we'll take it. But nothing perfect is going to come on defensive line.
[00:24:15] And you do have a lot of depth there.
[00:24:17] If you wanted to add anything at that position, you'd want to add like an absolute bone crusher. You'd want to go and add a Max Crosby type that would. He only had one sack today and generally he's pretty overrated in my opinion. But like you'd want somebody who is just a bonafide line shifter on the edge. Well, you're not.
[00:24:38] Those guys aren't hanging out and are going to be at a price that's, that's worth entertaining.
[00:24:43] Right. Like those guys cost multiple first round picks, even in weird situations. So you can maybe add somebody that's got a little bit of upside, but then you're just adding another player into a, a pool of so many players like that.
[00:24:58] So I, I would probably stand pat on D line.
[00:25:02] You feel good about linebacker? You have three good linebackers. Duggar, what a gift today. But really he didn't have a great first half, but he looked really good in the second half and he's looked really, really good for them this year.
[00:25:16] Yeah, I, I, I would, I would, I'd be looking for, you know, a sixth or seventh round tight end and I'd be looking for a fourth or fifth round safety. That's where I would go. But you know, they don't pay me to do it.
[00:25:32] Volume is low as it is sometimes here. Yeah, you know, listen, man, I'm in a, I'm in a press box. I got a little lab mic. Like we're doing the best that we can.
[00:25:43] Puka hurt his knee. If he misses times, the Rams are cooked. Yeah, they were looking cook before Puka decided that he was going to be the offense today.
[00:25:51] Yeah, I don't know. Siegel just came off injury. Yeah, but they haven't loved him when he was healthy.
[00:25:58] Jake and I really like Marquis Siegel. I think I like Marquis Siegel even more than Jake does.
[00:26:03] They don't feel the same way.
[00:26:06] No one's been able to explain fully why.
[00:26:09] And then at a certain point it's like, why At a certain point it becomes them having to explain themselves. To me, that's like not an appropriate, that's not an appropriate line of questioning.
[00:26:19] They.
[00:26:21] Yeah, they, they.
[00:26:25] I don't know what's going on back there, but it's getting worse.
[00:26:29] It's getting worse and I don't think that looking at the back end of the schedule, it's going to get any better.
[00:26:35] Niners defense looks face this is actually fake.
[00:26:38] I don't agree that they're fake. I just think that they're susceptible and that safety is our destiny.
[00:26:48] And that as we get deeper and deeper into the season, the more and more tape that you see, the less confusing some of the stuff that the Niners have been doing early in the season is going to be. The more and more Raheem Morris has to dial up weirder stuff and the better the the safeties and the corners have to play. And they just didn't play well today against the Raiders.
[00:27:10] And again, like, what's going to happen when they play Justin Jefferson, though quarterback might be an issue. We'll see Tuesday. They might add a quarterback.
[00:27:17] What's it going to look like if they get into the playoffs and they're playing the Bears? What's it going to look like if they get into the playoffs and they're playing the Packers? I mean, are those teams flawless? Hell no.
[00:27:27] Hell no.
[00:27:30] But they might have the goods at the exact right places to give you the business.
[00:27:35] And if you got Jair Brown out there against, you know, Matthew golden or Roma Dunes a or Luther Burton and a quarterback who can throw at 80 yards on a string, that could be a real issue. It could be a real issue for you especially, too, as I, I think that this is going to be something that we talk about a lot once it starts to happen, but just can't can't believe this is some real dorkitude because we look at the meteorological projections for this winter, it's about to get real nasty real quick.
[00:28:09] And that's here and certainly everywhere else.
[00:28:15] Again, I'll keep going back to the lame trope. Like Brock's going to need some more insulation and does anyone trust that Mike Evans is going to be there when you really, really need him? Like, the man has Achilles tendinitis.
[00:28:27] Like, even if he comes back and he will, how long can you expect him to Stay back.
[00:28:32] Debo Samuel had a hamstring pole so bad that he fumbled the football.
[00:28:36] It all went pop.
[00:28:38] How long would you expect him to stay on the field when he does come back again? We're in Week nine. Stuff just doesn't go away.
[00:28:45] It's managed, it's mitigated.
[00:28:48] So if you're now in January and you got a big third down, who are you throwing it to? You hope that there's a Mike Evans out there, but if George Kittle's bracketed, and we saw the Raiders bracket and plenty today, you got to throw it to Watkins or you gotta throw it to Cowing or you gotta throw it to DeMarcus Robinson.
[00:29:08] Okay, okay. After Watkins today, maybe that's the play. And in fact, I'm advocating that that's probably the play because you have bigger needs elsewhere.
[00:29:18] That doesn't sound awesome.
[00:29:20] And again, we're just in a situation where.
[00:29:24] Just in a situation where you're good enough. You're good enough to win a Super bowl, but there's a couple other teams that are good enough to win a Super Bowl.
[00:29:35] And how much separation is there between you and them right now?
[00:29:39] Not as much as there could be. Not as much as maybe there should be. And Tuesday makes the play.
[00:29:46] Why do the Niner state safeties that can actually cover? Because to be fair to the Niners on this front, like, Siegel has had some real coverage deficiencies and he's the only one who can cover. So it's not as if he's out here locking dudes down like he's at Reed or something, like Earl Thomas is back there and everything is covered. Like it.
[00:30:06] He's not going to be that guy. He's not going to be that guy. And he sometimes gets a little, you know, he kind of got the gyre sickness where sometimes he thinks about it a little bit too long and so he's late to react. I don't know. But I would bring in somebody not necessarily to usurp them or, you know, take their spot, but rather to just have another body there so that if you do get to a situation where you're like, we got to get Jair out of here, or like we're not playing Siegel or one of them gets hurt, that then you can at least go to somebody who's not Ashton Davis, because it's not like they're loaded up on the practice squad with young, exciting players at the safety position.
[00:30:48] They send it to Germany like CMC did for his. I mean, again, we all remember the 24 season with with CMC. Like, that's not a reliable football player.
[00:31:01] It's. It could work out fine in the long term. Mike Evans has been on the injured list, like, for 10 straight years. In the last five years. It's just a litany of injuries.
[00:31:14] I don't think that Tampa made the right decision, just let him walk. But they didn't put up much of a fight.
[00:31:19] Like, they didn't go to the mattresses to keep Mike Evans around. I think they were kind of over it.
[00:31:25] And that was the wrong decision because Mike Evans, when he plays is awesome. But there's that, you know, caveat there when he plays. And boy, like, Brock force fed him so much that now he's having to figure out in real time, in the middle of a season who he can trust and who he can't. And it's great that he decided. Today's the day that Jordan Watkins, I guess Atlanta too. That is the day that Jordan Watkins gets the ball.
[00:31:51] Is that what you want to be banking on moving forward?
[00:31:54] Probably not. And with, you know, Debo, who can't separate man to man still and is more of a gadgety player. Good player. Good player, but a gadgety player. And Evans, you just don't have anyone who can reasonably step in as a number one. You got a lot of threes and you got a lot of fours.
[00:32:11] And in the case of number four, you have somebody who Brock won't throw the ball to. And every time he does, he does it with reluctance and regret.
[00:32:19] It doesn't seem long.
[00:32:21] I. We want to talk about a receiver upgrade. That. That's who you upgrade. Okay. Yeah, it'd be great to go and get somebody who could be like a clear cut number two when Evans comes back. That'd be great. I think that'd be too cost prohibitive and it'd be better to spend a little bit in a couple of places as opposed to go all in on one. But if you do want to find, you know, an upgrade, if there is a spot that's glaring, replace cowing. I know Kyle said today, like, we're not looking for like one 1v1 replacements. That makes me almost think that they are, like, what a weird thing to say. Without being asked specifically about it. It feels like they're. They're looking right at cowing and saying, okay, who can we get who's better than that guy? I don't think that Josh Downs is worth the cost in that regard because the Colts are asking for a hell of a lot for Downs. I think it's a second. That's at least what I heard last. It's been a while, but a second for a player who's on an expiring contract who you're probably not going to resign, like, that's too much.
[00:33:22] But if you can get somebody with a day three pick, any day three pick, even in this draft, which is awesome, you can get somebody with a day three pick that can replace Cowing as a punt returner, as a kick returner, perhaps because Jordan James, for all the positive things I've said about him as a kick returner, that was a dud of a game, though. The Raiders had a massive special teams, special teams advantage. Jake. Jake texted me right before the game. He's like, did I mention on the pod that the Raiders have a massive special teams advantage? I'm like, I don't think we got around to it. Yeah, well, pretty evidently. Go get Dylan Loudby. Like, just go get him. Like, I don't think he can play receiver at all. He's more of a running back. But go get a guy like that. They never replace Sky Moore properly. This guy more, you don't want out there at scrimmage. But, like, at least you trusted him as both a punt and a kick returner. And you probably shouldn't be playing Jacob Cowling from scrimmage anyway. But Brock's not going to throw him the ball unless he absolutely has to and doesn't seem as if anybody feels comfortable when he's, you know, back there to return a kick. So go get an upgrade there.
[00:34:27] And if you're not going to go get an upgrade there, hopefully you get enough receivers back to where you can drop his ass and you can bring in somebody from your practice squad because they have two returners on that practice squad and let them play. But that situation seems untenable.
[00:34:42] Let's get into the rest of these.
[00:34:46] I want Hooker, but the Panthers won't trade him. Yeah, that. That's the other thing. I mean, there's not a lot of.
[00:34:55] Off the top of the dome, there's not a lot of good safeties in general, and there's certainly not a lot of good safeties on bad teams.
[00:35:06] That's why I say safeties are destiny. Like, you find me. I. I guess Derwin James counts.
[00:35:12] I don't think they're going to trade him. I don't know what the hell the Chargers are doing.
[00:35:17] Holy crap.
[00:35:20] Unbelievable how bad that situation is. But, yeah, there's not a lot of, like, hey, go get this Guy, he's wallowing on a bad team. No, if you're a safety on a bad team, it's probably in part because of you.
[00:35:33] And maybe it's one of these, you know, strange circumstances where you put him in the right environment and it all clicks. But that's a, that's a big ass bet, especially if you're kind of banking the season on it.
[00:35:46] Who has more frequent flyer miles, me or Hutch? Oh, I think Jake's sneaky on that, but I definitely do.
[00:35:54] I got like nine years on Jake and I fly to Scotland like every year, so it's got to be me. Plus, I had, I mean, early in my career, I was on a plane once or twice a week, just going everywhere.
[00:36:12] Salad days of newspapers, which was like, you know, 20, 15, 20. Even before that, 2011, 12, 13, I was covering Florida Atlantic, the Panthers and the Dolphins all at the same time.
[00:36:27] Oh, and the University of Miami too.
[00:36:29] So like in season, in football season, I'd get on a plane on Wednesday night and I'd fly to wherever FAU or FIU was playing on Thursday night because typically at that point the Sunbelt played just on Thursdays.
[00:36:46] Late later in the season, I'd come back on Friday. I'd go cover a. I'd fly back and cover a high school game on Friday night for recruiting purposes. So I'd go find, you know, a big time recruit somewhere. And I had a, at a big board of all the best recruits in Palm beach in Broward county, which got me hooked up with a lot of college coaches at the time.
[00:37:09] And so I'd go cover that on a Friday somewhere in the 75 mile radius.
[00:37:17] And then on Saturday I would be at the Canes game. Typically wherever the Canes were, there were a lot of like 6am flights.
[00:37:29] And then I'd go to wherever the Dolphins were playing or I'd come back for the Dolphins. The glorious weekends were everyone was at home. Those were pretty rare. And then on like Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, I'd be covering the Panthers.
[00:37:44] So there were a lot of frequent flyer miles on a lot of Marriott points and all that goods. A lot of rental car points which proved to end up being worthless.
[00:37:52] And then add in, you know, marrying a Scots woman and it adds up.
[00:37:57] But then again, I use them all on my mother in law to come out here. So jokes on me.
[00:38:02] Jake, meanwhile, is really building up.
[00:38:06] All right, here we go.
[00:38:08] Just read this. Do you make Larry's dream come true and switch Luke McCaffrey and Jacob cowing and send a six and a seven back to the Commanders.
[00:38:17] Does the Niner get sold before he get.
[00:38:20] Does the Niners assault before he gets canned? Peters, does the Niners. Okay, now, now I'm piecing it together. I'm. I'm very intelligent.
[00:38:31] Yeah. Larry and I have talked about this. We couldn't do it last week because I was doing the warriors game.
[00:38:35] Thank God I went to that game against the Heat. Oh, what a barn burner. But.
[00:38:41] And I'm sure I'll get an earful whenever we do it this week because, you know, Jordan Watkins, who needs.
[00:38:47] Who needs to go trade for anybody when you got Jordan watkins? But Luke McCaffrey makes a lot of sense.
[00:38:56] A lot of sense. And it's actually kind of hard to find better, low cost options than a Luke McCaffrey. If you're thinking about somebody who can be your fifth wide receiver, and that's really what you're replacing, you're replacing your fifth wide receiver and giving yourself a punt returner and a kick returner, I would absolutely do that.
[00:39:14] I would throw a seventh.
[00:39:16] I don't think it would get to a six. It might even be like a round, you know, Day three, pick, swap.
[00:39:22] I think that makes all the sense in the world. All the sense in the world.
[00:39:27] So, yeah, Larry. Larry's gonna win on that one, too.
[00:39:30] Hey, don't matter to me.
[00:39:34] All right, here we go.
[00:39:37] Jesse Bates and Charlie Warner.
[00:39:39] I don't think Atlanta's in cell mode just yet. They should be.
[00:39:44] Warner, I believe, is in a contract year.
[00:39:48] That would make some sense. That would make some sense.
[00:39:51] He has actually proven extremely pivotal to how Atlanta runs their offense. And again, all these situations are like, oh, bad team, but, yeah, bad, bad team. First year head coach.
[00:40:01] So then you have to actually look at how they're used, and it's like, man, do you think Kevin Stefanski wants to get rid of Charlie Warner, who he keeps in there so often and is perceived as pivotal to their run game? And if they don't have a run game, what do they really have?
[00:40:16] Some questions there.
[00:40:18] Bates, probably a more reasonable target, but I do think that there'd be a pretty high bidding cost on him. Like, I don't think Atlanta is just, like, keen to get rid of Bates for a fourth or a fifth. I think they're asking for a second or a third if someone calls him about it. I haven't. I haven't checked in on that one specifically, but that would be my guess. And he had a really nice game against the Niners, so Throw out what I'm about to say, because sometimes it just matters what you do against the team that you just played. But he didn't look so hot in the film before that.
[00:40:51] That said, neither do the Niner safety. So what the hell do I know?
[00:40:56] I need to see Watkins do this for two more games. And that's. There's a lot of that. There's a lot of that. Because again, if this is just a one off, and it very well could be, a lot of the stuff that we're seeing could just be a one off, what's it worth to you? What's it worth to you to find out, like, how much risk are you willing to take on? Because if it is not a one off, you just let Tuesday go. You have to work with the information that you have right now, today, the prices, everything. You got, like 40 hours ain't a goddamn thing changing. Now, maybe when you get down to brass tack, some teams will back off a little bit on their original asking price just so that they get a deal done.
[00:41:38] But this isn't. This isn't baseball. This isn't the NBA.
[00:41:44] Baseball has too many players, so they're just constantly moving around, you know, NBA, we'll see what happens with the Tank rules. But, you know, teams are actively looking to lose in that league.
[00:41:57] There's no team in this league, save for the Dolphins, who set themselves up extremely well, but there's no team that's actively trying to lose in this league. It's just not. It's one of the great things about the NFL. It's like, not how this league works.
[00:42:10] And the Dolphins, I think that if you called them and gave them the right price, they'd give up like a Greg Dolcich or somebody like that. But, like, they're so young. That's why they suck. And why would they give up on any of those guys? So. And all their veterans suck, so why would you want any of those guys?
[00:42:31] Yeah, like, the Colts are in a weird situation because they're not actively trying to lose because they don't have their first round pick.
[00:42:39] So they do need to mitigate that in some way by accruing some draft capital. But also, like, Shane Steichen would like to keep his job.
[00:42:48] He may. It might not be in his best interest to keep his job. He might actually leave for another job, but he would like to stay contractually bound to the Indianapolis Colts if he could, so help it. So. And there's a lot of, you know, think about this from just the players perspective. I mean, every game is an opportunity in this league. The tape is indelible and you're just not in a position to where you can dog it and get away with it.
[00:43:12] You're just not. I mean, think about how long it's taken Chase Young to revive his reputation.
[00:43:17] He dogged it for a play, a play, it was a playoff play, it was a bad play. He dogged it for a plane. It's taken him years to get back to a point where people like, trust him again. It's just not how this league works. And I appreciate that about this league, but it does make things like this very, very tricky. And so it oftentimes, even if it does feel like it's a bit of a buyer's market, it's never really a buyer's market because you can always stand pat if you're a seller. There's no such thing as a full on fire sale even. Think about like the Eagles, like, they're going to make a bunch of trades. The Eagles are going to keep making trades, but they're not giving up everybody.
[00:43:56] Unless teams are going to go in there with really aggressive packages because Howie Roseman's not losing deals. And even GMs that know they're on their way out, like, they're not going to lose deals on their way out. And head coaches want to keep their jobs and players want to stay in this league and in fact, some of them want to get out of the situations they're in. The only way they're going to do that is if they play well.
[00:44:16] So it's all very complicated and we're all just guessing.
[00:44:22] And even the people that I talk to, who you know I'll use, you know, I pretend like I know something with, like they're just guessing in a lot of cases too. It's all just a weird game of telephone. And ultimately it comes down to who wants to put their stones on the table and make something happen. Because things can happen.
[00:44:41] But you, you, you can't just sort of waddle in and you know, oh, no, I'm just looking around. No, you got to go in, you got to go in with conviction. You got to make something happen.
[00:44:49] The Niners didn't around with Buckner.
[00:44:52] They went in, they said, here's our offer.
[00:44:55] The Colts said, hey, we got another one, it's the Bears. And then I still have not figured out who the third team was and they want them to. We're going to take it to Buck. And Buck said, niners, there's not a lot of back and forth, fussing around, hey, what do you want for Buck? Third?
[00:45:10] No.
[00:45:12] Can we do a fourth? Yeah, but we got a couple other fourths.
[00:45:16] Okay.
[00:45:18] And a negotiation.
[00:45:21] They went in with a purpose. They went in, they targeted a player, they attacked the situation. They won. They won that one. You don't just get handed players. You got to go get them.
[00:45:31] And you have to give the other team a good reason to give them to you.
[00:45:37] It's easy to just stand pat.
[00:45:40] It's easy to get high on your own supply.
[00:45:43] I think the Niners would be foolish to do that.
[00:45:46] I would rather, if I were in their situation, if I'm John lynch and Kyle Shanahan, knowing the circumstances around this team, knowing that this is probably, probably not guaranteed, but probably the last true bona fide super bowl chance this team has.
[00:46:07] Not that they won't be good, but, like, this is their. Like their last great chance with the environment around them in the league with the way that they're playing football, with the way Brock is playing with all this. Because you got Trent, you got Kittle, and you got Fred, and you got. Just go down the list of the olds.
[00:46:24] Bosa. There's a big contractual question there. At the end of the year, this is probably the last best go that they have under sort of what we would call the. The 2019 gang.
[00:46:38] Obviously not all of them here in 2019, but like this core.
[00:46:45] Would you rather have made the move that proved unnecessary in terms of, well, it was redundant, surplus to needs. Would you rather have made that move, or would you rather have stood pat? And then you get into a playoff game and you get burned at a position where, you know, we just went through them all. You probably should have had an upgrade. You get burned because Kyle Use checks out for a playoff game, and now suddenly you can't run dash motion, and suddenly you're off. You know, everything's just looking a little clunkier in the run game in the playoffs where the run games win, you know, George Kittle gets tackled funny, and even if he doesn't, you know, he's not missing time. He's on the sideline. He's in the blue tent for a while. Now. Here you are with Frell and Braden Willis trying to move the ball on a critical drive in the second half of a playoff game.
[00:47:40] Would you have rather have just made the move, thrown some caution to the wind and have something surplus to needs or, you know, stand pat and trust your coaches and trust all your guys? Because the other thing, too, is, okay, who do you trust your coaches? Well, yeah, you should trust your coaches. Okay. Of course, inherently.
[00:48:00] But who's getting better and who's getting worse?
[00:48:03] I mean, where are the arrows pointing and counter. Colby had a great game today, so you could say that arrows, you know who's going.
[00:48:11] But now you can say, hey, it's leveled off a little bit. Raiders, but still you take what you get.
[00:48:17] Jordan Watkins, hey, that's something. Something's progressing there. There's some positivity there. You're going to get guys back. Okay. Okay. Maybe we feel a little bit better there.
[00:48:25] Who's getting better at tight end?
[00:48:27] We don't even see Willis out there. Farrell had a drop today, but he's generally been fine.
[00:48:33] Is that something that you trust and then you have a first year position coach there.
[00:48:38] So do you want to go and trust, you know, Cameron Clemens to finish the development of a Braden Willis who by the way is not in like a development stage anymore. He's been around for a minute. Do you trust him to elevate that guy or anyone else you might bring in off a practice squad? Do you trust him to unlock something in them or should you just go get someone who's ready made?
[00:48:58] I'd go with that.
[00:49:00] Raheem Morris is a secondary's first guy. Like he loves the secondary. He early in the season looked like he was working miracles.
[00:49:09] I think that that started some of the magic is starting to wear off a little bit. And it's not to say that they're not good. It's not to say that they're the Achilles heel of this team.
[00:49:18] But I could see a circumstance where that proves to be a real big problem, especially when you consider who their peers in the NFC are right now, which is two big arm quarterbacks who like to bomb the ball downfield.
[00:49:29] That could be a real issue if you got safeties that are question marks and you don't even know who you want to play and who you don't want to play because no one separated themselves again, they, they get to make the decision.
[00:49:42] You, me, Larry, everybody can throw as many, you know, things against the wall as possible. If I had my priorities, I would add a safety and I, I would like a smaller safety, one that's more coverage, somebody that you could actually use as maybe a backup at nickel as well.
[00:49:58] And, and a tight end Mo Ali Cox from the Colts would be like perfect.
[00:50:03] Like you can go any which direction. I think you just need to pick one.
[00:50:07] But I think like a big, hulking extra tackle tight end, like Washington on the Steelers isn't coming. Like that's not a thing. But my God, how much fun would that be? Somebody who is of that ilk I think would play. They'll probably, you know, if they do this, probably go more the Warner route, more the, you know, dwelly route, more the Tanjis route, something to that effect because that's the way Kyle likes to do things. But man, what like just a big body, tight end that you can bring in and every now and again, oh, he slipped out for a seven yard catch, but just sort of like a, an upgrade over feral. And then you put feral in a lesser role or he's just not as leaned on. He stays fresher. I just think that would be a good thing to add and I don't think it would cost you all that much. I do think it would have to go right down to the deadline. But I think that that would also insulate you if this receiver situation doesn't pan out. Because now you're not asking Kittle to do everything. You can just say, hey, George, you're playing the role of, of Travis Kelsey today.
[00:51:07] Hey, George, you know, go do a shitty Brock Bowers impression today because George isn't what he used to be, but he's still pretty damn good.
[00:51:16] But there's nobody behind him. Sorry, sorry to Luke Farrell who's had a nice year, but there's nobody behind him. So here we go.
[00:51:25] Warner's perfect. He protects that dash motion. There's a lot of guys who are doing dash motion. Dash motion is actually getting kind of wild around the league. The Bears are doing it more and more.
[00:51:33] Brian Flurry not particularly doing a hot job with the Seahawks right now, but dash motion is Brian Flurry's baby. And I do think, I do think that that's a pretty good thing to hang your hat on. Probably why you got the job. Trade for Goddard. Goddard can't do squat anymore. Goddard's washed. It's been washed for about two years. Super washed. And here's the problem with Dallas Goddard. He's a name that everybody knows. So that costs more.
[00:52:00] You're paying more for the name brand. Except we're getting like a shrinkflation and ification situation with some of these name brands and suddenly the Honey Nut Cheerios don't taste as good. But hey, it's still the name brand. I'd go generic.
[00:52:12] I'd go generic because I don't think that actually Dallas Goddard is better than the generic. I think he's actually markedly worse than the generic. And you're paying full price for a Dallas Goddard. I mean, I'm sure that it would cost you like a fourth to get Dallas got it right now, I don't think he's worth a sixth.
[00:52:26] He's washed. He's washed, but you know him. And so therefore you go through the name, he pops out on a list, someone. I actually don't think anyone's gonna do it.
[00:52:36] So take that for what it's worth.
[00:52:39] We'll do two. Two or three more of these. Appreciate everybody getting them in. This is good stuff. Looking ahead, what do you think of the kid from Georgia 23, I believe, is a Juice replacement? I. I thought Nowakowski from Indiana last year would have been an incredible Juice replacement. I actually have found it very puzzling as to why the Niners haven't had a Juice replacement at all on their roster at tight end or at fullback. I believe the last one to do it is currently a lunatic MMA fighter.
[00:53:07] So just to show he's already done a full change. Not that he was any different then here than now, but it's been a minute since Josh Hokut was around.
[00:53:20] The Michigan kid Bredesen is good as well. Like, there are some. Actually there are some interesting tight end ones. I do think that probably the future of fullback is actually just H back and I think that Juice is showing that. And a lot of the stuff that people are ripping off from Juice is really just, you know, ace tight ends and then motion into the backfield or motioning out of Ace with the dash motion.
[00:53:46] So that sort of flexibility is awesome. Now Juice is such a direct and effective blocker from the backfield. It had actually a nice little run today. A little Le'Veon juice.
[00:53:59] I thought he was it, but yeah, I don't. I don't. They haven't. They haven't. They didn't add a tight end. They haven't found. I would imagine that fullbacks, though I do know that you obviously know Itowski got picked up like a fullback.
[00:54:13] A fullback should be a really good special team linebacker.
[00:54:17] They should be somebody who, you know, can pass, catch a pass every now and again. But like, I like the lead blocker fullback, not Lorenzo Neil neck roll or anything, but like, of that ilk. And you would. There's. I think there's enough of them that it's surprising. They just don't have anybody on the practice squad who even can project out in a lofty sense to that this has to be the off season they do it. I mean, let's also not forget, like they just let Juice walk at one point and then like a week later they're like, oh, that was a terrible idea. Let's bring them back.
[00:54:47] And I think he got a raise out of it.
[00:54:49] So I've always found that really puzzling that they just haven't had the Juice. Now Ton just was being cross trained to do Juice's job. By all accounts, he was doing a good job at it. I don't think that that's a proper Juice replacement down the line.
[00:55:04] And again, certainly they don't have one on their roster currently and I don't know particularly how they would go about doing that. Maybe that is the differentiation. So instead of a Mo Ali Cox, they, they go get a Warner or you know, just any variety of a Y tight end that can do a little backfield stuff that probably ends up being the play. I just would really like to see Mo Ali Cox. So I keep bringing it up. Plus, you know, the pun possibilities are endless. So something, something to chew on there. But I've always found it very bizarre that they didn't have any ins. They've never, they've really never had any insulation there. And if they think Braden Willis is insulation, then God help them.
[00:55:44] What's your thought on Pickens? Doubt it happens personally, but would you risk it? And not at the cost.
[00:55:50] Not at the cost. And I definitely don't think Dallas is trading him to the Niners.
[00:55:55] So let's just operate on the 1% chance. Yeah, I'd risk it. I think George Pickens kicks ass.
[00:56:01] Oh, it probably is a disaster.
[00:56:05] But if you get an engaged, pissed off George Pickens and maybe just change his scenery and get having to prove yourself somewhere does it. It could also go the exact opposite way. But like, to answer the question, would I risk it? Yeah. Because that dude is a game changer when he actually wants to block and he is a big bodied receiver. And you know, we're seeing this with the Panthers and not that you should be building your team the way that the Panthers built their team, but I do think they're right about this. You know, Bryce Young's itty bitty, shockingly small. Like uncomfortably small. Like you see him in person without pads on and you're like, I'm sorry, what?
[00:56:50] It's shocking that he's not dead.
[00:56:53] So he's playing quarterback at the NFL level. He actually plays at a pretty high level compared to some of his peers.
[00:56:58] And what they've done is they did the inverse Kyler Murray.
[00:57:04] So with Kyler and the Cardinals, they just had a bunch of itty bitty dudes and they thought they just went on speed and then that went over really well.
[00:57:12] Yeah, that, that went over like bringing your Honda Civic to a monster truck rally. And the Panthers looked at it and said, okay, we're going to do the opposite of that. So they have two big bodied wide receivers. The Tearoa McMillan and Jaden Coker. I think they're both over, I think they're both close to 230.
[00:57:29] And then they just have a cadre of tight ends. They go four or five deep.
[00:57:35] They got really good tight ends and Waller has been really good for them this year. But it goes down the line. I like it's not sample, it's the other guy out of Notre Dame. Doesn't matter.
[00:57:46] They just got big bodies and I think anyone who's watched the Niners this year can appreciate what that does for a smaller quarterback. Because there have been plenty of times this year that Brock is like, I don't know what's going on down there. Five should be over there. Big body, let's go. That's been their offense the last two years. Where's the biggest receiver? I'm going to throw it to him because I can't see squat. And especially come playoff time that, that feels huge. And I, yeah, I, I would, I would try to bring in as many big bodied receivers moving forward. Now stribling qualifies.
[00:58:21] Watkins is tall but very slender.
[00:58:24] But you know, if you're talking super depth, there's something there, right? If you're building kind of the perfect wide receiver room. Debo definitely does not qualify. He is a big boy but he is not tall. I do think that they should add depending on what happens with Evans and if Evans isn't back next year then it's, they need to add two. I would, I would really focus with a quarterback like Brock Purdy. I'd focus on big bodied receivers and then on top you can have some small guys that are just unbelievable route runners. I'm asking for a lot but just go out and get, you know, great route runners that get open all the time and then big bodied receivers that you can throw 50, 50 balls to. If only it were so easy. But that would, yeah, I would, I would lean in more towards a big bodied receiver moving forward. Forward. If you had to make like you had to make the differentiation between a smaller route runner or a bigger bodied receiver and you know the way that they get the ball is, is one's wide open and the other One is, is just winning. I, I would go with the bigger bodied receiver because with all of the chaos at the line of scrimmage and all of the free rushers that exist in this league and it's only going to get worse because again, offenses have to line up in a certain way and defenses don't. They can do whatever the hell they want and that matters when they're daring the quarterback to make decisions within two seconds lest they die.
[00:59:47] I would get as many big receivers as you could. I'd build the whole thing out of tight ends.
[00:59:52] That's me. I don't think that's actually the way of the future. But yeah, if you're going the receiver route, probably replace Jacob cowing number one. But if you're getting really esoteric and you're getting, you want to get really weird with it, find yourself another big bodied receiver who isn't going to replace what Mike Evans does, but gives you a better facsimile of that than anybody else on this roster could. Maybe it's just waiting for Stribling, but I just, I, I have a hard time, I have a hard time imagining Stribling just hitting the ground running after that injury. Not just because of the injury, because he's missed so much time and he's a sharp kid. I'm certain he's been, you know, soaking up everything he can get in the film room and all that, but you know, throwing in a rookie who played half of a game into December football, that'd be really special if he performed really special.
[01:00:46] Here we go. Let's do a couple more here.
[01:00:50] Oh, look at that. Fourth pick by Caleb. I'm not watching.
[01:00:55] Cousins could loft the ball three feet above our side today. He came down with it every time. Felt like a wig. Rock was. Yeah. I mean, I've always been a little Brock Bauer skeptical because if you looked at him, I don't get it. I don't understand how it's possible. Those are the best kind of players. You just go, yep. You just take it for granted.
[01:01:16] It doesn't make any sense. That touchdown catch that he had was sick. It was absolutely sick. He's a dude. He's an absolute dude. And it doesn't have to make sense. It just doesn't have to make sense.
[01:01:31] He's awesome. He's awesome. What a matchup nightmare.
[01:01:36] Somehow that entire vision will have two wins. Yeah. It's all right. Let's call it. Let's call it. Anyone else wants to get something in, get it in now. Jake and I Will break down the film and talk to you guys about it tomorrow or Tuesday. We'll find out when we get the film. And yeah, look at legitimately weird day.
[01:01:55] Weird day.
[01:01:57] Raiders and Niners don't get together for business like occasions and weird reffing, weird football game. All of this we're going to chalk up as peculiar.
[01:02:09] At the same time. Tuesday is a big deal and you can only work on the information that you have right now. And that information says you're good. But. And you might be good enough.
[01:02:18] But do you want to risk it?
[01:02:20] And if I'm the Niners, I'm saying no. We're going for it. We're not going all in, but we're pushing. We got a nice stack of chips here. We feel good with our hand.
[01:02:30] We're playing the hand.
[01:02:31] We're playing the hand. We're going to create some separation here between us and our rivals.
[01:02:37] I think that's the prudent thing to do.
[01:02:40] And it might backfire, but I don't think it would backfire spectacularly. And. And I think the risk is worth the reward. Appreciate everyone who's hung out. And then. Oh, here, let's. Let's answer this one. I feel like the Brock ent was horrible. Or was it just a really good play by the db? Also going to touch on IUK on Friday. Just your opinion.
[01:02:59] I'll do both.
[01:03:00] It was a great play by Stoops. There's something with Stoops. I like Stoops. I think the Raiders have two of those Arizona safeties. They had three last year that were pretty good.
[01:03:10] Devin, Dalton, Johnson. Stukes has a chance. Stukes has a chance to be pretty good. He got burned a couple times in this game. Rookie safeties, what are you gonna do? But that was a really nice play by him. Clearly good film study because that's a play that Brock loves to throw. An interception on that seam corner and really force feeds it, tries to layer it over. It's hard to lay it over two guys.
[01:03:34] It was a bad decision. I thought it was an emotional threat throw. He looked very frustrated the play before that, and I think that he got kind of pissed off and he. He threw it into a window that was going to be too tight and that he might have gotten away with and he didn't because of a really good play. So. Porque no los dos.
[01:03:53] I think it was both a bad decision and a really good play. This isn't like the JC Horn interception or what was it? The Quinton Lake interception where you're like, yep, you tip your hat. That was a great play. You know, you're not going to win them all like that one was.
[01:04:07] No, that was a lot like the, the second Atlanta interception where it's like, what are we doing here?
[01:04:15] And then with the, with the IUK situation, Brandon's in over his head. Drew Rosenhaus isn't. And I think it's going to take some time for those two things to even out because Brandon did some really not irreparable, but some serious damage, and the 49ers have no reason to give him any grace whatsoever.
[01:04:55] The Niners are, were and remain pissed about that.
[01:05:02] They gave him a lot of opportunities. And listen, I, I'm not. I don't work for the team. I'm not gonna, you know, carry their water or anything. I think I just ripped on them for about 40 straight minutes.
[01:05:13] But I'll say this, they're in the right when it comes down to this one with the information that I.
[01:05:19] And it's not, you know, being force fed from anybody with the Niners, when I talk to third parties on this, they're like, dad, I'd be as pissed as the Niners are, too. They gave him every opportunity to rectify a situation that was going off the rails. He opted not to do that.
[01:05:37] They did what they did procedurally, and then he proceeded to pour lighter fluid on that fire constantly.
[01:05:47] On a personal level, they have no relationship with them, haven't in a long time.
[01:05:52] Part of that is very well documented by IUK and others, and they're not interested in cutting him an ounce of slack at all.
[01:06:04] He didn't. He didn't them over as much as he himself over by making the wrong enemies and not understanding that he had no agency in the situation and at a certain point, no agent in the situation.
[01:06:17] And again, the 49ers have no reason to do anything. In fact, it behooves them to do as little as possible because so long as he is on the not reinstated on the nfi, on the. The not reporting for the team list or the inactive, whatever you call it, so long as he's on that, the Niners books are clear and calm and everything is hunky dory, the second he gets reinstated and shows up to the team, things get. It's not problematic, but it's a pain in the ass for the Niners. So they would prefer everything to stay in this state of limbo, and it will stay in the state of limbo until a resolution is found between the 49ers and IUK, as it pertains to the bonus money, which he.
[01:07:10] Not. Not just they rescinded, but then he openly forfeited. And I think now is beyond the statute of limitations on figuring it out. So now the PA is involved. That's an inept operation, so we'll see how you know much that helps him or not. Rosenhaus being involved is good for him, and it's good on Rosenhaus, who has a hell of a roster but is a very competent agent.
[01:07:33] So there will be some rectification here. But then it's in the Niners best interest to not seek immediate resolution, to not just say, oh, we're going to rid ourselves of this. It's in their interest to drag this thing out for as long as possible, because they lose nothing by fate and they gain so much by everything staying in the state that it is. And the only person that can be blamed for that is Brandon iuk, because all of this is his doing.
[01:08:02] All of it.
[01:08:03] And had he wised up, sobered up, some would argue at some point and gotten the PA involved when the Niners did what they did, that resolution would have been figured out a long time ago. It might have taken a while, but it would have been figured out a long time ago. Had he maintained his agent while he was posting Instagram videos every day, there might have been some actual backdoor dealings that could have brought resolution at a time frame that Brandon IU thought the time frame was coming. But when he was out living in fantasy land, thinking that, you know, just any day now that the NERS are going to cut him and he'll go to the Washington commanders, by the way, something that, you know, to my understanding, the commanders are like, what the is he talking about?
[01:08:54] And as evidenced by. By their actions, what the hell is he talking about?
[01:08:59] So while he's off in a glaze, imagining some strange future worlds that only he can foresee, everybody else is sitting around waiting for something real to happen. And now something real is happening.
[01:09:17] But IUK has to dig himself out of a pretty deep hole before anything functional can happen. And once something functional happens, then it becomes a pain in the ass for the Niners. He'll get cut, and he'll try to find somewhere else to sign.
[01:09:29] But the way that he handled this situation, I don't think that it's going to be easy for him to find something.
[01:09:35] I really don't.
[01:09:37] I think most teams are going to look at this situation and be like, probably not worth it.
[01:09:42] There will be a team or two that thinks it is worth it but they're not getting in the bidding war.
[01:09:47] And yeah, Brandon, IU did irreparable damage and there might be some undercurrent of tragedy to that but if we're just taking it as on face value without putting any additional context on it.
[01:10:03] All time bag. Fumble. All time. Looks like the Raiders in the third quarter today just fumble, fumble, fumble.
[01:10:10] Really bad, really bad. And again, only himself to blame because there were so many opportunities for him kind of pull out of the tailspin when it came to, you know, the functional business of this thing. And all he did was, you know, what was the button on Star Fox Fox do a barrel roll. He just pressing that button again and again and again. So here we go. Thanks for the stream. Appreciate you guys jumping in. And do you know who was in the meeting on Friday? Can you reveal? I, I don't know the specifics of who was in the meeting on Friday. I presume it's Niners.
[01:10:50] I bet Questing was in there, but I don't think it was John for all of it. But I do think it's, you know, I think it's all hands on deck with that one. And I, I'd imagine that, that the, you know, there were several high up people in football personnel who were handling it. And again, I think the marching orders around here are don't budge an inch because you don't have to.
[01:11:14] And frankly budging is, is not prudent. How about this? They're taking this thing to the Supreme Court. Like they're not gonna, they're not gonna do a damn thing to help out Brandon Auk. And it's, I guess nice for Brandon IUK that he finally did something to help himself out.
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