Jake RETURNS | Breaking Down 49ers-Titans and Whatever Brandon Aiyuk's Doing

December 17, 2025 00:58:17
Jake RETURNS | Breaking Down 49ers-Titans and Whatever Brandon Aiyuk's Doing
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Jake RETURNS | Breaking Down 49ers-Titans and Whatever Brandon Aiyuk's Doing

Dec 17 2025 | 00:58:17

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreigner and Hutch back together again. And Jake has a very important slideshow from his fact finding mission that he's about to show us. So let's all sit down and listen to Jake regale us about India and what's really going on with Pro Football Focus. [00:00:21] Speaker B: Man. I, you know, I will say I did have a moment where I was like, I should record a video on the most inane stupid Niners transaction practice squad move. Yeah. Just like either from the Taj Mahal or from like the streets of Jaipur. Yeah. And I was like, even as a bit, I couldn't bring myself to do it. But I'm back. [00:00:44] Speaker A: It would have been a great bit. All right, you came back and your. Your first re. Re acclimatization to American culture was having to watch 49ers Titan, which I tried. [00:00:59] Speaker B: I got, I got home about halfway through the game and I went, all right, I'm gonna watch the last few minutes of the half. I did. Fell asleep for four hours. Fell asleep for four hours. Did not, did not. Did not make it through the second half immediately. And so my only experience watching this game, which was I've never done before, is purely all 22. [00:01:19] Speaker A: Oh, that's the way to do it. [00:01:21] Speaker B: It kind of strange, kind of strange because I had no sort of impression of what was happening. And then the Jeffrey Simmons. The jump scare of the Jeffrey Simmons touchdown. Greatest thing I've ever seen. [00:01:31] Speaker A: I want to start with the Jeffrey Simmons touchdown because Trent Williams was asked about it in the locker room. And I won't play the audio for copyright purposes. Apparently that's a litigious world out there. But they asked Trent like, hey, what did you think about Jeffrey Simmons? He goes, haha, that was cool. I'm kind of giving up on my dream of scoring a touchdown. And it was, it was. The big man's heart was breaking. And I know that the Niners have three very important games in the playoffs coming up, but I think that that should all be pushed aside. If Kyle Shanahan's truly an offensive genius, he figures out a way to get Trent Williams a touchdown. And unless that happens, fullback, just run it. Run the Jeffrey Simmons play. Just run the play. That was. [00:02:17] Speaker B: I like that. That play didn't work. And Jeffrey Simmons just purely freelanced. And Luke. And lo and behold, who is. Who is quote unquote covering him, but Luke Gifford, baby, right, right. [00:02:29] Speaker A: Jeffrey Simmons legitimately ran the scramble drill better than any of the Titans wide receivers. [00:02:35] Speaker B: I was like, I was watching it. I was like, he should just play both Sides of the ball for them. [00:02:39] Speaker A: I love it. I love it. I wrote a column about, like, it was tongue in cheek, but also kind of not Like, I hated hearing the big man give up on a dream. I think that he'd, like, say earnestly, like, well, if you asked him, he'd be like, oh, no, it's all about the Super Bowl. I prefer the Super Bowl. But I think if you really put it to him, he'd be like, I want that touchdown. I want that touchdown real bad, too. [00:03:03] Speaker B: He should have had it. [00:03:03] Speaker A: He's one of the greatest offensive players of all time. Like, I don't think it's ever put in that context, but he's one of the greatest offensive players of all time. He has no receptions, no carries, no touchdowns, and in 2021, he has one target. In 2021, they targeted him on. On a play. You can find it on my Twitter feed. I went back. Thank God the Russians maintain a deep database of NFL game film that I was able to access and not get any computer viruses at all, because NFL Pro was like, now, now we don't. We don't have that. And I'm, like, not going to log on to whatever the old model was. And so I actually asked around. I'm like, do you have, like. I asked a couple people, like, do you have any access to 2021 game film? And no one got back to me fast enough and. Because, like, that's a weird thing to text in the middle of the afternoon. Yeah, I mean, I know they have it. And they did, in fact, say, like, yeah, what do you need? And I'm like, I already found it, but the Russians already got me and, by the way, are probably controlling my computer, so if some propaganda pops up halfway through, you know whose fault it is. But, yeah, I was able to find the third and goal from the one with early in the third quarter up 20 to three against the Jaguars in week 11, where they lined up everybody on the line of scrimmage, declared Trent eligible as a off the right side tight end with another tight end on him, by the way. I think they were in 04 personnel and. Or no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, yeah, whatever. [00:04:33] Speaker B: Four, four, zero. [00:04:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Four personnel. Four personnel, and he ran it. Miles Jack was covering him. I don't know if you remember Miles Jack, but, like, I do. [00:04:43] Speaker B: I remember he, like, started his career off very hot. And I remember going into that game being like, ooh, terrible linebackers. [00:04:49] Speaker A: Yes, well, as we so often do, but Miles Jack was, like, really athletic and Played running back at UCLA and was like really good in coverage. That's what he was good at. And Trent Williams is up there and Jimmy throws him one. And Trent is soaring like an eagle through the air and was still 10 yards shy of ever catching that thing. And then the only other time that they, they use Trent outside of his typical mode. And I actually had to text you about this because I couldn't remember exactly what Kyle said. I couldn't find my notes, I couldn't find any transcripts. I gave Gemini, like very specific instructions. It couldn't narrow it down, which some, most of the time it does. I've actually ingested like 5 years of 49ers data into a notebook. LM for it to like learn on transcripts from the 49. I couldn't find it and it's actually been sneaky useful. I got a couple of Trent quotes out of that one. But they ran that, that trap play, the Wham block, whatever you want to call it, right with Trent, that turned into that viral moment that was a. [00:05:50] Speaker B: Big thing in motion against the packers in the playoffs. [00:05:53] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. In, in, in Green Bay, we were a little hungover already from that afternoon. And I was trying to remember because it was like, why don't you do that more? And Kyle was saying something to the effect, this is terrible radio, I apologize. But yeah, he was saying something to the effect of like, you have to take him off the field if you report him eligible. And like, I don't know what the hell he's talking about. [00:06:17] Speaker B: Ineligible. But like, in order to get back to like, their offense, he had to come off. So I don't know if this is correct, but given like, what I remember it was that he had to be replaced for a play if they stopped reporting him eligible. So he could have stayed out there and they could have run like, yeah, six men. But they didn't want to keep doing that, I think. So that's why they don't do it. [00:06:39] Speaker A: So this is why, thank goodness you employ Austin Pleasants, basically making this impossible to do unless it's a fourth down play. So if you get a fourth and goal, we know what they're running. Just don't tell the other team. Just let it happen. Just let this happen. And maybe the Niners can get up big on old man Philip Grandpa Rivers and they can do it just for the bit. But this is now my new top priority. Other than that. What did you enjoy from the tape, Jake? [00:07:10] Speaker B: Lots of things. Dieter? Lots of things. So I think CJ west. Here are my takeaways. Need more. CJ West. [00:07:19] Speaker A: Need a lot more. [00:07:20] Speaker B: CJ West. [00:07:21] Speaker A: Need like five more of him, frankly. [00:07:24] Speaker B: Need. I need a full team of CJ west, especially at center. Trent Williams was dominant, probably. [00:07:34] Speaker A: Is C.J. west going to get a touchdown before Trent Williams? [00:07:37] Speaker B: I swear to God he might. Yeah. There's something about the way he's built that like lends itself to a coach going, let's put him a fullback, let's. [00:07:46] Speaker A: Put him, make him eligible. Center can't be eligible, by the way. And by the way, really, really fascinating thing. If a quarterback is under center, they are ineligible on the play. [00:08:00] Speaker B: Interesting. [00:08:00] Speaker A: I did not know, I did not know that wrinkle in the rule book. Now you all know it. It is applicable to absolutely nothing. But you cannot, you cannot. You're not an eligible receiver, which you could be theoretically in the shotgun if in fact you are. If you are, you start to play under center. So something to note. I'm sorry, I, we, we digressed from what should be a wonderful story and analysis of the very wide, very deep, very squatty, violent handed CJ west, who was physically and practically immense in this. [00:08:35] Speaker B: Game and, but only played, I counted 14 snaps. [00:08:39] Speaker A: That's right. [00:08:40] Speaker B: Split evenly and you go, what are we doing? I'm, I'm sick of Kalia Davis, quite honestly. He's actually looking more like, I kind of like him as a pass rushing option a little bit more. Because you just say, hey, be as violent as you possibly can. Be as aggressive as possible. [00:08:55] Speaker A: Makes sense. [00:08:56] Speaker B: CJ west is like, no one is holding up against double teams in the way he is. [00:09:00] Speaker A: No, not even close. [00:09:01] Speaker B: Holding it. It's not even close. [00:09:04] Speaker A: Like Alfred doesn't move. It's incredible. [00:09:07] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, he was in the run game. It's just, he's not. I think he's in two minds about what he's supposed to do. And I've said that all season long and I think again, it's going to take time. [00:09:19] Speaker A: Makes sense. [00:09:20] Speaker B: But like CJ west, again, like he's doing the thing of just being an immense, stout figure that I really think as teams attack them more and more and seek to displace them up front and attack their secondary and attack their linebackers, I think you need him in there more and more because Kalia Davis's brand of, like, I'm gonna get up field and like once every seven plays I'm going to have a backfield stop and the other five times I'm gonna get Washed out. It's not really working. It's, it's not, I think, a viable method of survival for them. [00:09:52] Speaker A: It feels like the 49ers are victims of their own offensive success in this regard because they took everything that they knew about themselves, knew about their scheme and they weaponized it to win that game against the Falcons, coming off of a really bad loss with Fred out against the Buccaneers and they needed a bounce back game and so they just decided to ruin Raheem Morris's life. And in that defensive scheme, it's, it's the same thing, right? You're coming from the Gus Bradley School, the COVID 3 as a principal, 43 over defense of just fire, just get through the gap. Just fire in there. And the Davis of it all. Like, I'm not going to go in on Givens. I mentioned this on the post game, right? Like I'm not going to go in on Givens. He wasn't supposed to play all week. He hasn't played in weeks. And then Jordan Elliott injures his knee in the locker room warming up. [00:10:44] Speaker B: That would happen. [00:10:45] Speaker A: That's what Kyle said. And, and so they're like, hey Givens, you're in. And he's like, oh, this isn't going to go great. Like so. And it didn't. So I'm not going to go too hard on him. Like imagine just getting thrown in to, you know, the final project after not working on it at any point and having to present in front of the class. That's what happened there against a good, I think a really good Titans offensive line, particularly in the run game. But Davis, not only it was getting burned consistently with just that kind of shoot ahead stuff, they hit him on trap blocks as well. There was one play where he's just in the backfield. [00:11:24] Speaker B: No one was blocking way too often. [00:11:26] Speaker A: And they just, they hit him with the trap block. And again the duo and the traps, these are things that obviously Sean McVay is big on duo. The, the trap stuff has been a little bit more prevalent as of late in the NFL as everyone's kind of figured out the outside zone stuff and you can maintain some of the principles of outside zone so the running back isn't too confused, but the offensive line is doing something different to the defensive line. Like this is, this is why, and I can't believe we're still talking about this, but we are. This is why you need guys who can hold up and at defensive tackle. And it's ironic that they keep running out dudes who cannot hold up in the run game at all. Because I know Robert Salah knows they need dudes who can stand up in the run game. When they drafted Alfred Collins, who is physically large enough and strong enough, and. [00:12:18] Speaker B: I do think that at Texas. Kind of all he did at Texas. [00:12:21] Speaker A: Was just hold up and west and they said we need big, strong guys who can hold up against double teams to make the lanes clear for our linebackers, and in this case, linebacker, because Curtis Robinson was out there. But was he would. Am I off in saying that he would have been better off laying on the ground like a guy on a soccer free kick? [00:12:44] Speaker B: He made two good plays. The rest was really, really rough. [00:12:47] Speaker A: It's just washed out. Just going for a ride. He's. [00:12:52] Speaker B: He's not quick enough mentally. Like, it's. Yeah, it's too slow for him mentally, and he doesn't have anywhere near the speed to make up for it. And, like, just doesn't lack. He lacks the aggression. Whereas, like, Tatum Bethune is not a great athlete at all. [00:13:06] Speaker A: No, but, like, decisive. [00:13:08] Speaker B: He's willing to die out there. Right? Like, he's willing to put his body on the line and go through a block and make something happen. And he's pretty stiff and he struggles in coverage, but, like, that sounds like a Rams linebacker. That level of aggression works. [00:13:24] Speaker A: Absolutely. So. And. And we talk. I had you on KMBR yesterday because I had to take Larry's show because Larry's apparently under the weather, though I imagine he's bounced back from one day of not offering hot takes and is stronger than ever now and ready to rumble. But I had you on Larry's show yesterday, and you. You were going in. You were going in on the linebackers. You were going in on it. And these are all very fair things. I am. I'm not as negative about the run defense as I feel you might be. And you can correct me if I'm wrong here, if I'm overstating your. Your stance here. I feel like if you had a competent middle linebacker, it wouldn't be good, but it wouldn't have looked that bad. [00:14:03] Speaker B: Oh, agreed. Agreed. Yeah, I. I think Curtis Robinson's a huge part of the problem, but it's also, like, they're allowed to climb to the second level so easily every time that. [00:14:13] Speaker A: I mean, unless west is in there. [00:14:16] Speaker B: Right. I mean, Fred got attacked last year, too, when he was, you know, playing through that. That injury, and they just had. He had no protection. But at least his level of, like, strength and size and physicality made it difficult. [00:14:28] Speaker A: How Much. Do you think the RPO stuff that. That Tennessee runs was also kind of fucking up their shit in the sense of the defensive ends felt very confused most of the game. Like, I felt like that was like a really. We saw what it did. You know, we. I don't know if you ended up watching the Titans Browns film from India. That's. There's. Yeah, that's. That's beyond sea kelp sicko. But I did right because that was the prior game and just as we suspected with the Niners and we see Brock Purdy get into the end zone with a read option play because Jim Schwartz defense is sort of the. The pinnacle of this 4:3 over stuff like the read option wrecked. Wrecked Cleveland. It really breaks so many of their rules and because so many defenses. I hope I'm not repeating myself at a certain point. I've only been talking to myself for a while, so I might be repeating myself a lot of content lately. But when you look at the college level and you remember how kind of frothy I was about tight fronts and mint fronts early this season. Well, in the college level, the RPO required the one gap system to be eliminated. You couldn't run one gap anymore against an RPO because you were constantly getting burned. It made easy decisions for that quarterback. And that's why I think the tight front might not work great in the NFL, but it would have been awesome against the Tennessee Titans because this one gap fire, four across, even five across stuff is. Is really susceptible to a quarterback who's making a decision in the backfield whether to run or pass it. And like, I just don't see that showing up at any point moving forward for the Niners. Like, I just don't think. I think that's a specific. [00:16:15] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. I agree they don't have. [00:16:17] Speaker A: Maybe the packers can do it a little bit, but it's still. That's different. Beyond that. [00:16:21] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it's a lot of like young offense, young quarterback stuff we don't trust. Let's attack them at the edges. Let's try and make them uncomfortable what they do. So I'm with you. I think in terms of like, is this going to be a problem going forward in terms of like that type of scheme attacking them? Probably not. But I do think some of the things that have shown up before in terms of duo and getting, yeah. Those defensive tackles just in the backfield and completely out of the play is going to continue to be a problem, 100%. And I don't really see a Way, like, I, I can see this defense being like semi functional, you know, with Bethune back, but it's not. I mean, there's no world where this is going to be a good defense the rest of the season. They just, they just don't have the dudes at all. [00:17:11] Speaker A: Course. And, and even if they did have those dudes, I don't think it was going to be tip top of the league. Just. It's too young. And then if you have Warner and you have Bosa, that's a great deal of insulation. But you still have to worry about Upton Stout on a play by play basis, which is only going to be increased now moving forward as teams get more and more vindictive in their offensive game planning. You have to worry about these safeties getting burned over the top. You do have to worry about De Winters kind of getting lost every now and again, though. He's been fantastic. And then all the things you mentioned on the line, the word that I've been using to describe sort of the best case scenario for this defense at this point is serviceable. Can they be serviceable and, and can they be plucky to get a turnover? [00:17:53] Speaker B: Right. I mean, the, the fact that they dropped two easy ones is like three. [00:17:59] Speaker A: I think it was three. And maybe. Yeah, there were two. Two. Two easy ones and a hard one. Is that fair? [00:18:05] Speaker B: It's. I don't even know what to make of that. Like, that's just. Mustafa's got stone hands. [00:18:10] Speaker A: It's bad. He was bad. I thought he was really bad in that game. He was slow to trigger. [00:18:16] Speaker B: I mean. Yeah, that one where it was. I think DK caught the ball at like the 1 yard line. [00:18:23] Speaker A: What are you waiting on? [00:18:24] Speaker B: Like, like what was he doing? Like, he had an easy interception and he just sort of waits and waits and waits and allows him to like, make a play on the ball. That was maddening to watch. And he. [00:18:35] Speaker A: Do you think they're gonna send him to the press box and watch with Marquis Siegel? It's the same. It's the same. At least Siegel was in position. Like, I'm seeing a lot of it. [00:18:49] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. He's got terrible ball skills and it's a real problem for them. And I do think at some point, and maybe It's Seattle, week 18, where they're just going to get exposed and it's going to be a real, real problem. [00:19:00] Speaker A: Might be the Bears. Bears can push it. Bears got a lot of problems. I don't think. I think the Bears are. [00:19:05] Speaker B: Yes, but you're Right. Like, that's a team that could attack. [00:19:07] Speaker A: Him deep, easy, and you get to the playoffs. And I would imagine. I mean, I don't think that we talk about the time that the Rams came to town and absolutely smoked this Niners team enough like that should be. And I'm not telling you that all of this optimism about a team that's won four straight games is. Is off. And there are no perfect teams. But if there was one to develop, it'd be the Rams. I don't think it will get there, but if there was one to show up, it'd be the Rams. And even though I have to hold on to my Seahawks stock and maybe Thursdays, you know, makes me feel very, very vindicated in that the rams are the 1 team in the NFL with Denver kind of being right there. If they're clicking like they did against the packers the other day, that can say we have a top five defense, top. Top five offense. They're the one team that can say that. Everyone else is just like, well, you know, Seattle's like, well, we have an elite defense and, you know, maybe the offense shows up today. Every team's like that. I mean, packers with. With their injuries, can they say they have an elite of either? Probably not. I don't care about the NFC South. [00:20:18] Speaker B: Like, I pretend it doesn't exist, quite honestly. [00:20:21] Speaker A: And it's a lot easier that way, though. I think. I do think that we forget, if the Niners don't get the one seed, they pray for the five. Pray for the five. Do whatever you can to get the five. If you got to lose a game, get the five. Doesn't make any sense how that would happen, but do what you have to do to get that five. Because it's Carolina or Tampa Bay, and both of those teams. I know that the Niners lost to Tampa Bay earlier this year. That rematch will not go the same way. It just won't. Not with the way that Purdy's playing. [00:20:49] Speaker B: No, not a chance. Yeah. [00:20:51] Speaker A: You have thoughts on Purdy? [00:20:54] Speaker B: Yeah, my thoughts on Purdy is that he's just feeling himself, that Brock is just. He's out there. Scoot. I mean, is there anything more on Brand for him than to, like, scramble for, like, 20 yards, 30 yards, whatever it was, down the sidelines? [00:21:07] Speaker A: 26. [00:21:08] Speaker B: 26 yards. [00:21:10] Speaker A: Pull. [00:21:10] Speaker B: Pull a Move out. Pump fake at Cody Barton and then immediately go, I apologize. That was. [00:21:15] Speaker A: Sorry. [00:21:16] Speaker B: I'm so sorry. [00:21:17] Speaker A: Sorry, sir. I'm sorry. [00:21:20] Speaker B: It's that, like, sort of Christian boy swagger of being like he's got it. But then he sort of reminds himself. He's like, oh, no, not in the eyes of the Lord. I shouldn't be doing that. I apologize. [00:21:32] Speaker A: He's not wrong. Yeah. There's some real BYU energy to it all. A lot of. Some real Jackson Dart without all the concussions. I suppose, though, you know, Jackson Dart's got a whole other thing going on there that's. [00:21:44] Speaker B: I don't know what. What's happening over there. Yeah. And nor should, I mean, head first every goddamn play. [00:21:51] Speaker A: I read that Jackson Dart has gone to the blue tent in half of the NFL games that he's played. Also. Also, here's. Here's another fun one. I heard this on the ringer NFL show or fantasy football show, which is. With four more wins, Liam Cohen will be the fifth winningest coach in Jaguars history. [00:22:14] Speaker B: That's horrifying. That's really. How about those Jags? Whatever the hell they're doing, whatever the. [00:22:20] Speaker A: Hell they're doing, still get. They still can't line up right. Can't do anything. But, you know, Trevor's out there, I guess, slinging it. I don't know. It beats me. Okay. Okay. Let's close up shop on the Titans game. Lay on me. Whatever needs to be laid on me. [00:22:36] Speaker B: Yeah, I thought Trent Williams was exquisite. Like, I really thought this is probably the best Trent game of the season that I've seen from him in a while. And then losing Pierce all really sucks. If they. They don't have. I'm. They just need. They need him to be healthy for the playoffs. Whatever they have to do to make that happen, you need to make that happen. The tough thing is like, I. I don't know. Like, I don't know how bad it is, but him like re. Aggravating it again and having the ankle thing, that was tough, where it was like a hip drop tackle and. And the whole thing gets re. Aggravated. [00:23:09] Speaker A: But it's just like my photography can't. [00:23:12] Speaker B: The offense can't carry the weight it needs to carry in the playoffs if he doesn't play. [00:23:17] Speaker A: My photographer at the Merc has a photo of the hip drop tackle. And that ankle is the wrong. I mean, it's incredible. His leg didn't break. That's why that play is banned. They just decided they're not calling it again this year. That's cool. Whatever. Just don't. Don't make a rule, never figure out how to enforce it, and then just stop enforcing it. So that when there's an obvious example of it and that Might not have been the most obvious one, but I've seen the really obvious examples and there's no whistle or anything and it's like, oh, so you made this big deal out of this thing that we all just sort of lived with, made this big deal and then don't actually do anything about it. That's the worst kind of attention and I hate it. So it's incredible that Pierce all played in that game. I don't want to hear anyone talk about that kid's toughness. He's got some bad luck. He is. There are some real bad. I mean, let's not forget the dude just got shot in town buying some jewelry. So. And he hadn't even gotten the jewelry yet. So dudes just got some absolute shit luck. You hope that that all turns for him, Steph Curry style and. But man, the fact that he played in that game and was as effective in that game as he was, I. [00:24:36] Speaker B: Mean he was phenomenal. [00:24:37] Speaker A: They couldn't cover him. They couldn't cover him. And it looks so. It was so impressive in person because even on the plays where he wasn't getting the ball, he was so wide open and it wasn't these sort of, oh, you schemed him up. He's just running an open space and the Titans forgot about him. He's just laying dudes on the ground with these moves on a bad ankle. And I talked to him a little bit after the game about, you know, the PCL and stuff and we should bring up the Brandon Iuk thing. I think a lot of people are starting to get concerned about Brandon Iuk. [00:25:14] Speaker B: I'm concerned. [00:25:15] Speaker A: Well, Pearsall said that he's fine. Pearsall and him are fairly tight. Not tight enough to where Ricky speaks. I mean they would school together, right? Like they've been teammates twice. Ricky adores Brandon, all these things and he, he, you know, he, Matt Barrows and Jennifer Lee Chan were there. They can corroborate. He, he thinks that brand is totally fine just staying out of it and. Well, because Brandon Iuk's name is getting talked about online and he's very online even if he's not posting. He, he decided to put up some lyrics that made a bunch of dorky white dudes have to put it into chat GPT or ask their cool friends and he's fine. It doesn't make any sense what he wrote but like it actually does. I'm just, I figured out what it meant but I had to like decipher it. Like hieroglyphics. It Was. It was. It was a tough look for your boy. It's just out of it. [00:26:09] Speaker B: Yeah. It's just like. I don't know. He's just weird. He's a weird poster. [00:26:14] Speaker A: It got weird. It got weird real. [00:26:16] Speaker B: Like after all that, like, it's just a strange. I don't know, like I. I don't know what his day to day looks like. It's just he's handled this whole thing for the last two years really poorly. And yep, regardless of any weird posting, it's. That's objectively true. He's terrible in almost every facet. [00:26:37] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah, we don't need to expand upon that. We've talked about him enough. He's no longer part of the night. They haven't seen him in a month. He. He didn't fight this thing. He wants to go to the Commanders. Adam Peters, because he used to play for the 49ers, will immediately take him because heaven forbid he ever look outside of one singular talent pool. And it sucks. It sucks that this is the way that I estimate right now Brandon Iuk will be remembered. It was always going to be difficult for him to come back from the knee injury that he had and be anything close to what he was. There is some strange, beautiful, perhaps irony to the Niners were going to put him on the restricted list before the 24th season because he couldn't make up his mind. And they. It made it very difficult to make trades happen because he kept changing his mind about what he wanted. He was there, but he wasn't participating and holding in. And so they're like, we're just going to put you on the restricted list. Or at least they threatened that to him directly. And now they have in fact put him on the restricted list on the quote, left team list, which they didn't even do for devondre Campbell. [00:27:48] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, that. Well. [00:27:49] Speaker A: Cause that one literally left the team. [00:27:52] Speaker B: That one was awesome because they were just like, we are going to do whatever we possibly can to make sure he doesn't earn another cent. Yeah. [00:27:59] Speaker A: They suspended him for three weeks and then cut him and voided any guarantee that that existed there. And the NFL PA didn't care about that. And probably there's, you know, the meme of the guy with the dominoes that led to this exact moment where specifically a moment in July where they're like, oh, we can get away with it. They. There's no one watching the shop over there. Their union is powerless. Let's cut his ass. And then Brandon IU came in. He's like, oh yeah, that's a great idea. And they're like, oh, I'm sorry. What? Huh? What? You're cool with that? Okay, this is weird. We're going to go. [00:28:34] Speaker B: They're like, you don't want the money? He's like, no, it's fine. [00:28:36] Speaker A: No, I'm good. Just take more power to you. More power to you. At least he made a decision. [00:28:41] Speaker B: I know that your apathy is a real superpower. [00:28:45] Speaker A: I suppose so. Gen Z and their nihilism. I don't know. Okay, so that's the Titans. The There was a moment, more than one moment. There was there was a stretch of time while you were deeply a slumber Jake where the 49ers were going to be the 1 seed. You know how on the Premier League broadcast they'll show like the current table if results hold. That's what was going on where the Niners were the one seed because the packers were losing and did lose. The Seahawks were losing to Grandpa Old Man Rivers and and the Rams were losing though that pretty quickly flipped. I'm just going to take a victory lap for telling everyone two weeks ago that the Niners could be the 1 seed. And I remember everyone who told me I was an idiot. You're the idiot. And yeah yeah it still feel it. [00:29:38] Speaker B: The fact that it was Colts had that game. I and I checked. I went they lost. [00:29:43] Speaker A: They didn't give up a touchdown and they lost. And Rivers this Rivers thing is I love I watched it yet probably it. [00:29:54] Speaker B: Is only seen the same video you have. [00:29:56] Speaker A: I cannot wait to properly watch it. I did watch. Luckily the Niners game was in such a state that I pulled up the old TV app and put it on in picture and picture in the corner and was watching it and I really look forward. I'm sure there are plenty that have done it already. Perhaps you've already seen it on social media. I haven't. Who throw the cups it was I'm watching NFL Primetime when I get home with my wife and she's, you know, just on the computer and she looks up and she goes is he okay? I mean it it looked like he won a contest. I'm not kidding. And it's very difficult. It's going to be very difficult when we pop on this film with the Colts to overlook the fact that their quarterback is just out there having fun with the boys. [00:30:44] Speaker B: Just, just, just getting free health insurance for his very large family. [00:30:48] Speaker A: Baby, I can't blame him. They, you know they, they didn't extend the they didn't extend the, the subsidy. So, you know, the ACA is going crazy. You gotta buy your own health insurance. That's gonna suck. So. Yeah, yeah, it was. He was throwing helium balloons and that, that implied. Actually, that's probably too much of a statement. It was, it was like every paper airplane I've ever made just sort of like, hey, it's gonna. [00:31:12] Speaker B: And he, to be fair, he's always had kind of an ugly motion, but this was like totally brand of Philip Rivers just in pain. [00:31:19] Speaker A: How about this? Here's what it looks like. From what I could tell, it looked like he was playing with a weighted football. That's, that's, that is what it appeared because he's always had that shot put. And finally someone's like, oh, he's got a shot put motion. Let's give him an actual shot put ball. Is it called a shot put? And let's have him throw that. And that's what everything looked like. It was, it was ugly. And so for all the concern that I have over Jair Brown and Malik Mustafa and anything that happens beyond seven yards past the line of scrimmage, like, not an issue in this game. Like, he, he ain't pushing it. He can't. I don't know if Jonathan Taylor's got an arm and he can like pitch it over to him and he'll throw it deep, but like, that's what we're operating on. This is Brock Purdy, NFC Championship Game 2022 level arm talent. Yeah. [00:32:08] Speaker B: I think what's going to happen is he's going to throw a few that should be intercepted. The 49ers are going to have a couple stone hand plays as, as. I mean, I mean, genuinely. [00:32:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:20] Speaker B: Truly never seen anything like it, but I, I think they'll probably come away with at least a pick. I think it will be hard for them not to have an interception. But again, as I said, we're going to get into it more. But like, Colts are just gonna have to slow this game down to a halt and try and let Jonathan Taylor basically win them the game and keep the 49ers offense off the field. That is clearly the recipe they experimented with last week and it almost worked. But that's the only way they can do it. [00:32:49] Speaker A: I, you and I agree on one thing that the Niners can do to help shore up their own game. We agree on two things that they can do to shore up their health game. Any other human on the planet playing middle linebacker. And if we need to match Philip Rivers, you get Patrick Willis or something. I'm sure he can give you the reps and obviously more CJ West. I also. This is, this is some granular stuff. I liked the 43 under look that they were running late with De Winters coming up on the line of scrimmage giving them a five man front. I think that's a really positive thing that they can maybe push forward because D is a pretty effective blitzer and it does give them somebody who can get off a block and beat a tight end one on one in the run game a little bit more with. If you're not going to have. If everyone's just going to get to the second level and wipe out the second level, just bring the game to the first level. This kind of the Brian Flores school of thought, which is what if we just put nine guys across the front? Then what are you going to do with your little zone blocking scheme? I think that that might be the way to do it here. [00:33:59] Speaker B: I'm with you. I'm with you. I, I actually like Dee Winters up at the line of scrimmage quite a lot more than I like Luke Gifford at the line of scrimmage. I just am sick of seeing him on the field too. You can, you can see him. I, I think it's something where if they can slow Jonathan Taylor down at all. Yeah. As much as I was in on the Colts, they, they look like a team that has lost their juice and ah, it's hard. [00:34:30] Speaker A: Perhaps even the will to live. [00:34:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Unless. Unless the Colts like take the driver's seat early and get this game going at their pace. It's going to be tough. [00:34:39] Speaker A: Colts do have a good defense or at least they're very well coordinated on defense. Lou Amarillo. Amarillo, whatever. What's his name? [00:34:48] Speaker B: Lou Annorumo. [00:34:49] Speaker A: Thank you. There we are. That is a. Mark it down on your bingo card. That is Dieter. Absolutely. Butchers a name. He. They were down there, their top two corners just, you know, they're injured like everybody else and I thought he schemed it up and really put Seattle in the clamps. That's probably not going to bode well if I had to guess for the Colts because now there is just a really effective teach tape on what he wants to do against what is effectively the same offense. And Kyle can really work right off of that and we are going to end up in. And I know that you know that you know that I know situation but I'll always take the offense as an advantage in that. Particularly when you have a quarterback that can move around and make plays with his feet and push the ball down the field. We haven't talked about this yet, Jake, but, like, I thought Brock was absolutely ripping that thing. [00:35:44] Speaker B: That was the best part. I mean, I. I did see one. No, genuinely, there was one throw over the middle to Jennings that was, I think, pretty crucial late in the game. And I went, whoa. [00:35:53] Speaker A: I lit. [00:35:53] Speaker B: I literally had to rewind it because there was some zip on that ball that I usually do not see from him. [00:35:59] Speaker A: It was Pierce all on that. That crossing route that set up the. The third touchdown was as fast as I've ever seen him RIP1, with the perhaps lone exception being that one he split four defenders with in Seattle and hit IUK right up the seam. Those are the two best Brock rips I think I've ever seen. The Pearsall crossing route for 37 yards beginning of the third quarter. And that. That IUK throw, which Kyle maintains is his best throw that Brock's ever had. [00:36:26] Speaker B: Yeah, he. I mean, he looks phenomenal, really. He looks like he's back to, if not full health, pretty close to it. More importantly, he looks like he trusts his body. The fact that he was scrambling without any real hesitation, I think bodes very, very well for them. Again, I. It's hard to make any predictions on where this team's going to end up, but the fact that he is playing with a level of confidence that can kind of take them to any. Any sort of place they want to go, I'm just interested and actually excited to see where that goes. [00:36:58] Speaker A: All right, let's do some questions and get the hell up on out of here so that we can start watching Philip Rivers tape. [00:37:03] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll take this one first. [00:37:05] Speaker A: Here we go. Thank you. [00:37:06] Speaker B: James. [00:37:07] Speaker A: James. I may have been sauced when I became a sicko member. I don't remember joining. I'm riding with it. Good show. Question ideal. What's the deal with Steve Wilkes getting fired all the time? Thanks, Jake. I will give you the floor because you know that you're not going to get it if I start and I'll come. [00:37:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I think I said it last night when I went on the radio with you. You can be a tough hang, but it's hard to be a tough hang. It's hard to be a tough hang if you're not coaching well. Like you have to be coaching well if you're going to be hard to be around. And he's not an easy guy to be around. I think that's pretty much it. [00:37:48] Speaker A: All right. This is being Asked for in the comments. I spent a good 90 minutes to close to two hours away from my family, shooing all other responsibilities, looking for what I call the Steve Wilkes tapes. Now, Jake can back this up. He was with me. I don't think you ever popped in on this one, but you understood my assignment that day, which was to get Steve Wilkes to talk about Tampa, too, and why he was going to play. And, oh, Jesus, I forgot his name. Logan Ryan at nickelback. Yeah, I had talked to Logan Ryan. He said he was going to play Nickelback. I said, oh, wow, that's a big deal. Should you be telling? And he says, no, but this is weird, right? And I'm like, we're about to go into the Super Bowl. Why are we have like. It was a weird conversation that I was having. Logan Ryan, who's a great dude, great. He's good to me. Like, I really enjoyed talking to Logan Ryan in that very weird strike where he just showed up and immediately became the most important person work. I'm like, okay, we. I. Steve Wilkes was always very dismissive of any criticism, anything that could even be construed as a criticism at the podium. Okay, I get it. You're at a podium, people are attacking you to feel that. Right. I get that. Okay. Probably not the best way to handle yourself in an NFL media landscape. But alas, here we are. So. So I go, I'll get him one on one. Maybe he's more reasonable. In fact, he was not. He was just straight up mean. Called me an idiot multiple times. He called anyone who he's ever. Who's ever employed him idiots because they don't understand what it is he's doing. And to just top it all off, you know, you go, hey, you might be in a bad mood, right? It's. I'm certainly not one to go in on anyone calling someone an idiot. Like, hey, maybe we're kindred spirits here. But what I found super interesting was I was sitting next to Steve Wilkes for 30 minutes, and this is why I want the tapes. But I would have to edit them because so much of the time he would be holding a com, he would be talking to me, talking down to me as I sit there directly. And at a certain point, I was like, I'm just going to see how long he'll do this for, because this is, like, really kind of fucked up. And anytime a national media person or someone with some, like, serious clout would come over, oh, it's so good to see you. This and that. And I'm like, this is really interesting. This is a fascinating insight into Steve Wilkes. I can't do anything for Steve Wilkes. Therefore, I'm an idiot who he won't even teach. Right. That. That's the cool part about the super bowl, as you can attest to. If you ask a question about football and you do the great Mike Silver line of, like, tell me about this, like, I'm an idiot, they'll teach it to you because they're coaches. That's their job. And they like doing it, hopefully. So Steve Wilkes doesn't want to teach anybody. Steve Wilkes just wants you to do what he says, and it's a power thing. So he wasn't even teaching me why the Tampa 2 is still effective. And I came in very soft. Right. I'm not trying to get into a fight. It's like, Steve, I was hoping that you could help me understand some of these basics of Tampa to. Been talking to Fred about. I'm trying to write a story about it. Can you, like, break it down? And he goes on and on about, like, I hear people saying that Tampa 2 doesn't work, and it's like, oh, my God, you're just exhausting. You're such a bad hang. But if there was somebody who had some name clout in the media or anything, he'd stop talking to me, turn to them and be like, hey, how you doing? This and that, never dismissing me or anything. He wanted to come back and start yelling at me. It was just. It was straight. I mean, this is a strong statement. I don't really believe this to be true, but it was kind of sociopathic behavior. And I. I don't like Steve Wilkes. I don't like Steve Wilkes as a dude. And it made it very easy when I was tipped off in the immediate aftermath of the super bowl that they were definitely going to fire him by a certain player who had been confiding in me throughout the entire year about how much he hated what a certain defensive coordinator was doing from both the booth and the sideline. That. When it was. When that was tipped off to me, it made it very easy to write the Steve Wilkes had to go column because fuck that guy. There we go. That's. That's why I think Steve keeps getting fired. [00:42:17] Speaker B: All right. [00:42:19] Speaker A: I don't think you ever got. I think I probably pared that back a little bit for you in the immediate. [00:42:24] Speaker B: I think I ever got the full story. Story. I mean, you knew. [00:42:27] Speaker A: You knew that Steve Wilkes was a dick to me at the Super Bowl. [00:42:29] Speaker B: I only know I Only know I came over to the super bowl talking, and I was like, the vibes are up over here. I don't know what just happened because I asked him a few questions and I was like, do you guys just get in a fight? You okay? What's strange? The vibes. The vibes were weird. [00:42:46] Speaker A: It was a weird day. [00:42:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, I just remember. So I didn't experience that because I didn't talk to him very long because I talked to every other 49ers coach. My favorite thing to do at the super bowl, we don't get a lot of great access to them. I love it because you get like, coaches love to talk. They love to talk about scheme. They love to tell you, like, they're not going to reveal their game plan. But, like, when you're on to something or something interesting, they get a little glimmer in their eye and they're like, yeah, there's something there. There's. You know, I'm not going to go into too much detail, but, like, yeah, there's certain things that are interesting about that. And I remember I went over to all these different coaches, and, you know, you come off like an idiot to a various degree, but you just shoot your shot with every coach and, yeah, ask and you see what you can get. And I went to Steve Willocks and I was like, oh, this is not. This is not going well at all. And I very quickly ended it because I'm like you. I was not willing to. I don't think he berated me, but it was like, wasn't going anywhere. So I quickly abandoned shop. [00:43:46] Speaker A: So I knew that Ryan was going to play at Nickel, and I wanted to have some quotes on the record, whether that went right or wrong. Right. Because I thought that that was going. It was such a big deal to me. A dork who would notice these things and cares about these things and was scooping it. So I wanted some quotes on the record from Steve Wilkes, like, if you were. And so I did. I played it like I didn't know. And I. I had. I found my notes on this, and I had written down the question as I wanted to say it, and I don't have it in front of me. I apologize. But it was. If you were to play like somebody like Logan Ryan at Nickelback, like, what. What do you. What positives do you think that that could have for the defense? And his response was, who told you that? And then I'm like, well, I. I heard it from somebody. I heard that that might be a possibility from Somebody that I trust. And he goes, well, tell me who. And I'm like, I'm not going to do that. Like, this isn't what's going on. And he's like, you know, this is the thing. Y' all just make stuff up. And then it's like, oh, my God. I just asked you about a guy, if he were to play Nickelback, who played Nickelback. Like, what? An. [00:45:00] Speaker B: By the way, by the way, the Josina Anderson tweets an all timer. [00:45:03] Speaker A: Between you and me, Jake, that was an all timer. [00:45:05] Speaker B: And then just people are, like, pointing that out in the comments, and she's like, I didn't put a name in there. Like, the quote is literally between you and I. [00:45:14] Speaker A: Yeah, no, Steve. Steve is a bad tactician and a bad hang. This will be his last NFL job. [00:45:22] Speaker B: But he will enjoy time. I mean, listen, he came into the. When he was talking about smoking cigars. We're like, oh, maybe he's going to be a cool guy. [00:45:31] Speaker A: Nope, not a cool guy. Absolutely loathed by a very, very important diner. Well, I, I, I teased it. I did the bad thing, and I went on the Internet and kind of dunked on him a little bit publicly by saying, I hope I can find these tapes. And I had to pay for Otter AI again to see if we could find the old Otter AI audio, and I can't find it anywhere. I think that it might be on a hard drive, but it's in my wife's office, and I can't go in there. [00:46:02] Speaker B: We'll find it. We'll find it one day. [00:46:03] Speaker A: I don't know. I don't know. I wasn't very organized back then. [00:46:06] Speaker B: It's hard to take. Any other questions after that? [00:46:09] Speaker A: No, I think we should, I think we should pivot off of. Because the NFL is. [00:46:14] Speaker B: I'll take a really important question. [00:46:15] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:46:16] Speaker B: How's the wide receiver class looking at New Delhi State? [00:46:21] Speaker A: Don't say anything racist. [00:46:23] Speaker B: Wasn't going to. Wasn't going to. Looking strong, by the way, I saw two cows headbutting in the street in a place called Push Car. [00:46:33] Speaker A: That's a shop. [00:46:35] Speaker B: Owner's like, hey, break it up. Break it up. It was a good old Oklahoma drill, though. In the middle of the streets of Pushkar. [00:46:40] Speaker A: That's a. That's a. That's called the Holy War in India. [00:46:43] Speaker B: That's right. That's right. It's funny. They're like holy animals, but at the same time, they're like a nuisance. So, like, they can't they constantly have to be cleared out. [00:46:52] Speaker A: Fantastic. [00:46:52] Speaker B: Other. Other things. Not a question, but Mod Bradshaw. I spit out my soda Levi's when Simmons made the touchdown. Funniest thing ever. You should have heard me in motion. [00:47:02] Speaker A: You should have heard me in the press box. [00:47:05] Speaker B: What sound did you make? [00:47:07] Speaker A: It was actually. It wasn't. It wasn't. Usually I'm a sound guy. Unquestionably. Just indiscernible noises on the subtitles. But on that one, the catch is made. Everyone's kind of, you know, it's kind of quiet. Right. The game had felt like it was. It was such. In the Niners control. We're all kind of zoned out writing a little bit. And then they, you know, they get that big play down the field and everyone, you know, it's such a natural thing. Everybody on the Niner side gets a little bit quiet. So the Niners aren't doing so well. It's a front running press box too, apparently. [00:47:38] Speaker B: And. [00:47:39] Speaker A: And they score the touchdown and it's dead silent. And I go, is that Jeffrey Simmons? Just cut through it all. Because I'm like, red sleeves, tight end, black guy. That's not chick. [00:47:53] Speaker B: That. [00:47:53] Speaker A: Is that Jeffrey Simmons. And it was. [00:47:57] Speaker B: It's. You know, it's funny. I. It happens to me a lot in the press box is. I will just. I'll start really. I'll laugh. [00:48:03] Speaker A: Yes. [00:48:04] Speaker B: Really genuinely hard at something that's like absurd and no one else is. Is. [00:48:08] Speaker A: They don't see it. They don't see it. [00:48:10] Speaker B: They don't see it. And. And I'm literally howling. Laughing. Yeah. And I really enjoy that. That's on the same topic. We should get Trent, Jet sweep with Juice and Kiddle lead blocking. [00:48:22] Speaker A: I like that. So what would you be in there? You'd be in what, a diamond formation? You rip that off from. From Andy Reid on the goal line stuff. Would that be a direct snap to Trent or would it be a handoff from Brock and a read option? Look, with Juice as the. [00:48:39] Speaker B: I think whatever it is, it has to be run from the wishbone. [00:48:42] Speaker A: Hold on. I'm gonna. I'm gonna diagram it real fast. You take another question. [00:48:45] Speaker B: Okay. Brandon West. In the future, two way players will become more common. Contractual agreements will become even more difficult. I. I hope so. I think that would be fun. And I like to see general managers and teams under stress and how they figure out weird problems. Another question, McFly, can our safeties put some. Stick them on their gloves? My God. I don't under. I actually don't understand like, gloves are so good now. They're so sticky. Like you saw in slow motion. Mustafa just. You were like, there's no way he's. He's doing this. [00:49:21] Speaker A: All right, here's what I'm thinking. Balanced formation. Trent to the left of Brock. You got kettle on. [00:49:31] Speaker B: The little spinner thing, I think. [00:49:33] Speaker A: I think it would be a. A read option with three lead, and then we're pulling. I think. Yeah. [00:49:43] Speaker B: I think that everyone's falling to the right. [00:49:45] Speaker A: I think that's just. [00:49:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. [00:49:47] Speaker A: So Brock can keep it if everyone crashes, but you have it there. Now the real issue that you have is this motherfucker who would probably be Austin Pleasants. So that's your problem. Now you're in a situation where Brock is one on one. I'd presume this is Jennings. I'd presume this. I would probably have to be DeMarcus Robinson, who had a bunch of really good blocks. Kind of a giveaway if you're putting Trent in the backfield. That's the problem. He's too big. You can't hide him. [00:50:19] Speaker B: I like it. I like it. I think it would work. [00:50:21] Speaker A: It's a good thought. That's a good thought. Appreciate it. [00:50:23] Speaker B: I think it would work. Okay, Take a couple more. [00:50:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:29] Speaker B: One. Lou Amarillo. [00:50:31] Speaker A: Thank you. Thank you. The yellow Louis. [00:50:35] Speaker B: Hey, guys. Question for you. If you're the 49ers GM, would you trade for Justin Jefferson? And if so, what would you send? In a world where Minnesota was willing. [00:50:45] Speaker A: To deal him pick number 12 in your next two first round picks, give him the Trey Lance package. [00:50:50] Speaker B: Sure. [00:50:51] Speaker A: I wouldn't. I wouldn't touch that. First off, Minnesota has no interest whatsoever in that deal. Second, they would never trade him in conference, ever. He's too elite of a player to trade in conference. He's a model citizen, and so there's no reason to trade him whatsoever. I don't think that we can even entertain the idea of what it would cost. And I also think that there's a larger conversation to be had about paying wide receivers in general. [00:51:21] Speaker B: And you've always been anti. [00:51:23] Speaker A: I just. I mean, you can point to the Chiefs this year and say, well, look at that. And I can point to the Chiefs every year since they got rid of Tyree Kill in the two super bowl sense and be like, well, look at that. [00:51:32] Speaker B: You know? [00:51:32] Speaker A: You know, people get so up in arms about paying quarterbacks, and then they're so willing to pay wide receivers half of the money or sometimes two thirds of the money. You know, there's Going to be a $40 million wide receiver. There's 50, $60 million quarterbacks. Like, okay, that's great. That's. You know, if you have a great point guard, it's okay if you get the 3 and D wing and you overpay them. But if you don't have a point guard, you don't have somebody who can point, you know, be point of attack. What's it matter if you got a guy standing in the corner can knock down threes? So, yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't bother with it. Especially in this era. Wide receivers are so plentiful. [00:52:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Alberto asks, what will they take with their first rounder edge or wide receiver? Can I say defensive tackle again? [00:52:16] Speaker A: I think you can. I would also. Not. This. This is going to get everyone nice and frothy. But I do think that. I think offensive tackle is a. Oh, God, I dropped my dry race marker. It's. Yeah. Offensive tackle is, Is very much in play because it's a great offensive tackle class. And for the first time, perhaps ever, they're in a position. Well, I guess since McGlinchey, they're in a position to take somebody who actually would carry the grade that they put on him. As opposed to drafts where every offensive lineman has taken like 20 picks too early. [00:52:53] Speaker B: Yeah. Like sort of the late first round where it's like they can snag somebody. I like that a lot. I'm very interested to get deep in this class because I've only gone surface level on it, but I, I really do think they'll consider that with Trent at his age and just, you know. [00:53:10] Speaker A: Because if Trent scores a touchdown, by the way, he might just walk off the field forever. Just throwing that out there. Which is, you know, not good policy given that the playoffs are coming. But it's a possibility. Kaden Proctor is the name. Kaden Proctor is going to fall to him at like 26 and, sorry, I'm not giving them the one seed and they'll take him and they'll use the year to get him. Right. They can play him at guard in a little bit of a stretch. They can use him as a swing tackle and then he'll take over for Trent. And it will not be Trent, but he is absurdly athletic, but for a very, very large and very, very doughy man. So incredible. That's my bet. [00:53:47] Speaker B: I love it. Two more questions before we get out of here, Maria. Do you think Jordan Elliott's return will help the run defense? As someone who's not been a Jordan Elliott, Believer? I think, actually, yes. Because Kevin Givens is so much worse than him. [00:54:00] Speaker A: I. [00:54:00] Speaker B: It has to help. [00:54:01] Speaker A: Will he help? Yes. Will it make it anything serviceable? Probably not. [00:54:06] Speaker B: Probably not. Last question. This one's for me. Did you catch some cricket? I did. I really did not understand the rules of cricket, and I have not really tried to understand the rules of cricket, but I do enjoy seeing something and people getting really excited me going, wow, this is. This is what a lot of girlfriends feel like watching. Watching football around the league. [00:54:28] Speaker A: Yeah. I thought you meant being around you, which is just general excitement. [00:54:32] Speaker B: That's right. [00:54:33] Speaker A: Where did you go to a cricket match? I need some more details here. [00:54:36] Speaker B: No, I didn't go to a cricket match. I saw. [00:54:38] Speaker A: Just on. [00:54:38] Speaker B: Yeah, it was just generally on. [00:54:40] Speaker A: I'm not gonna lie. [00:54:42] Speaker B: An Indian buffet, by the way. Indian buffet breakfast. Oh, paratha, baby. [00:54:47] Speaker A: Hey, now, don't. Don't. Don't start me on Indian buffets. [00:54:51] Speaker B: Paratha. [00:54:52] Speaker A: There we go. The original KMBR studios that I worked in, they've now moved, like, four times, had an Indian lunch buffet, like, a block away for, like, $9. This was a different time and era. It was 20. 2014, San Francisco, and. Holy shit, that was good. I. I dream about it every now and again, buddy. [00:55:12] Speaker B: I am not remotely sick of Indian food. It's funny because, like, some of my friends were, like, a little, like, is it. Is it safe to eat? Worrying about that stuff. I was like, we are at a very nice hotel, and I was shoveling just the amount. The amount of dolls and kormas and gobies that were. I barely ate any. Any meat. [00:55:34] Speaker A: Did you have anything culinarily in India that even in this incredible. [00:55:41] Speaker B: We. [00:55:41] Speaker A: We're very lucky. We live in the Bay, which is just, like, America's epicenter of great Asian food, including India, and we can get some unbelievable Indian food. We have a great Burmese spot. There's. I. I know a great Nepalese spot. [00:55:57] Speaker B: Who. [00:55:58] Speaker A: I know a great Nepalese spot in Oakland. Like, you name a country, I'm sure there's a newsbekistani stand somewhere that we can get something and. But did you have anything in India that you've never seen or heard of that you tried and enjoyed? [00:56:15] Speaker B: I had some jalebi, which I had heard of, which is sort of like. It's like. Sort of like a spiral sweet. I also tried. What is it? It's not. It's not dal makani. It's like a dal something. It's like a Rajasthani, which is, like, sort of Northwest India specialty, where it's almost like a cornbread that you dip in dal. It's their specialty. I didn't enjoy it very much because it was like a cold, wet cornbread. And I was like, everything else I've had has been better than this. [00:56:48] Speaker A: But you tried. [00:56:49] Speaker B: But I mean, there were just so many different types of dolls and different types of, like, curries. And the amount of spices they use in India, it just puts, like, any. Any shame to American food. [00:57:03] Speaker A: Like, we're just shames it. [00:57:04] Speaker B: Yeah. It was everything I had. I had. Honestly, one of the best things I had. We had a cashew nut curry in Pushkar, which is fantastic. [00:57:13] Speaker A: Those are. Those always hit or miss, those cashew curries. [00:57:16] Speaker B: They were good. They were very good. But honestly, my favorite thing was, like, it was curry with, like, a potato. Like a. Just like a baked potato in it. And it was like the greatest potato. I can't stop thinking about this potato. I don't know what it was. [00:57:31] Speaker A: That's awesome. [00:57:31] Speaker B: It was delicious. [00:57:32] Speaker A: Okay. [00:57:33] Speaker B: And then we just jumped out on the lake and. And watch the sunset as they did these art. They're called artis. Little prayers around the lake and this. It's like a religious town, Pushkar, where there's all these little, like, gots surrounding the lake. It's where Gandhi had some of his ashes scattered. [00:57:50] Speaker A: Interesting. [00:57:51] Speaker B: Cool little town. [00:57:53] Speaker A: I imagine that it will be very similar to the scene when Trent Williams scores his first NFL touchdown. Just kind of one for one. And we'll all get baked potatoes slathered and. [00:58:02] Speaker B: I can't wait. I can't. [00:58:03] Speaker A: That's the stream. We'll talk to you Thursday after we watch Old Man Rivers. Adios.

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