Episode Transcript
[00:00:07] Speaker A: Dieter and Hutch. I'm in a basement.
Jake is living life.
[00:00:12] Speaker B: We're clearly still in California, so don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. It's a hell of a mountain just in the Bay. Just in the Bay area.
[00:00:19] Speaker A: You know, to be fair, that could be Mount Diablo. Maybe. Probably not. Not getting those vibes. But we will endeavor nevertheless.
A little bit south of Mount Diablo, the 49ers will be playing the Seahawks on Saturday.
Still weird. Woke up this morning, New Year's Day, thinking, oh, this is great. And I got the. We got both of the kids, you know, we're coming back from Florida. We all got a little bit of jet lag. Cause three hours for a toddler is a lot different than three hours for your boy. And I'm like, oh, be nice to have the. Oh, shit, they play on Saturday. I got a lot of work to do.
So. While I have to rebuild my marriage after watching Seahawks tapes all day, I'm happy to talk to you about it because at least it won't be an effort in vain. Jake, your initial takeaways on the Seattle Seahawks.
Well.
[00:01:06] Speaker B: Well, after I got set up with Dazone abroad, which is kind of the only way you can wear it, you can watch anything. Luckily, hey, work works pretty well. But I'm just.
[00:01:15] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm just in. I thought you were in California.
[00:01:19] Speaker B: Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. I. I gave up on the bit immediately.
But yeah, I mean, listen, the. My first takeaway one, I have to say, Anthony Bradford remains terrible. That dream of him fixing himself so bad.
[00:01:34] Speaker A: Dude, it's so funny watching this tape and I'm like, how does the. How did this entire season come back to Anthony Bradford again? How is that possible? He is. Jake. I was looking. I was looking so hard. I was. I was trying to. It's. He's.
Every game plan is built around him. Every team is just like, go at that guy. And he's like, what if I. There was a play, I think it was the first or second play against the Panthers where he just fell face first into the ground.
[00:02:03] Speaker B: Just fell.
[00:02:04] Speaker A: Just fell.
So I'm going to take the L on Anthony Bradford.
He looked good in the preseason, you know, in Austin.
[00:02:16] Speaker B: The preseason.
[00:02:18] Speaker A: Austin Pleasants look like garbage. Here we are. What a time to be alive.
Yeah, it. It really on. Like, as much as I would like to get into the nitty gritty, it's kind of just their offensive line is weak. Is that the vibe you got?
[00:02:34] Speaker B: Yeah, it's it's not a strong group. I mean, as much as Gray's able, your. Your doppelgangers doing some cool things.
[00:02:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:02:42] Speaker B: Like, that's just.
It's not enough. And Abe Lucas is like, sort of constantly injured and fighting through stuff. He's doing okay. It's not, it's clearly a weakness of their team. And I think the 49ers are going to send Yator Gross machos through the face of Anthony Bradford and see where that gets them.
[00:03:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Abe Lucas. Tough watch. When. When I was saying they're weak, I mean, like, they're really susceptible to power. Like, it is like somewhat shocking that how much Carolina, who, by the way, care. And I watched a bunch of these games and I just kind of went through first half of like five or six games. I was looking for a way to stop Jackson Smith and Jigba. Spoiler alert. Didn't find one. But Carolina is the only team in the NFL that gets fewer pressures on the quarterback than the 49ers. And they were just livid in the backfield. They, they, they couldn't get enough of Sam Bradford. They were trying to smell his cologne on every snap. It was, it's tough. And Seattle's explosive plays, which were so definitive and you know, to them and their offense early in the season, have disappeared. They're completely gone. I think everyone has kind of figured out that Clay Kubiak doesn't have a change up to go along with this fastball.
[00:03:56] Speaker B: Yeah. First of all, Sam Bradford mentioned. Awesome.
And then I also. Yeah, just incredible. And then I, I think it's, it's something where it's like you look at the Seahawks and you're like, oh, Jackson, Smith and Jigba. If you take away the first read, Darnold might struggle. Well, it's a hard, it's a hard first read to take away.
And as much as their offensive lines, brutal. And they. You can probably get pressure. I think no Keon White is going to hurt the 49ers in this game a lot more than people realize.
[00:04:27] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:04:28] Speaker B: But at the same time, I think they will get home more than anyone would probably expect.
[00:04:33] Speaker A: I would throw beef at the problem. Like, I, I'm not, I, I'm not even half kidding. I might want to see some Alfred Collins at end. Like, I, I would just throw beef of the problem. That's why I think the key on White thing is so huge. You and I are aligned on that, not having White as an end. But like Sam Aquan, who's going to have to Have a big game here. You're going to need some yet to gross mottos kind of playing up in size. You're going to need a lot of guys who can set the edge because you can just run right through their face. You're not getting around them. They have, they have schemed up the ability so that you can't go around them. Insert blockers, a lot of tight ends, a lot of you know, double edged ace formation, stuff like that. They know where they're susceptible most. It's probably with speed from the outside so they're like protect against that but they also don't really run any gap stuff.
Uts is a good fullback. He's get like a, like it's 20, 25 still. He's, he's back there just standing there waiting for the ball to be snapped. Couldn't be a fullback that I watch week in, week out.
It's, it's everything And I think we had. You and I had this conversation. I can't remember if it was on or off the show.
It just feels like Kubiak stuff is so stale and he hasn't evolved it at all. And it's the same issue that he ran into with the Saints now he has a lot cooler players now than he did there but.
And a quarterback that can rip it and we'll get into the Sam Bradford Darnold talk in a second. But like it every play, every first play of the game is Sam Darnold play action roll to his left so that he has to throw across his body, flood form a flood concept to the left side. And it's like you can do that twice, you can't do it every game no matter what.
This isn't basketball where you just run your little pet plays and you're hoping you can win one on one. Like that's kind of what it is. It feels like a basketball offense where Jackson, Smith and Jigba has to do all the work and you're hoping that one or two role players can show up at some point. But I don't think, I don't think the point guard is, is very good right now. And I'm going to flat out say it. Jake, he's a play action merchant.
[00:06:41] Speaker B: I'm, I'm with you. I think, I think it's something where their offense is going to hit some big ones against the 49ers. Especially since I think Shahid is. It looks like he was a full participant probably going to play. I mean if they have both of those deep threats against These safeties, I think they're going to hit, but I also think the 49ers are going to force a turnover or two because I think Darnold is going to get confused or pressured and their offense is going to get out of sync at certain moments in this game or they're just going to, you know, they're just going to throttle the Niners secondary. They can't stop a cold. But I do think they know enough about what Kubiak wants to do to, to prepare for that. And I think Salah has a point to prove. So I think the Niners defense will look better. That's to say, I still think there's going to be plenty of points put up.
[00:07:28] Speaker A: They need to do what every team that the Seahawks have played, I would say over the last six, seven weeks has done, which is basically say run it. Go ahead, run it. We're going to be a nickel or dime and you can go ahead and run it. But, but what they think and what they have been proven right the previous Seahawks opponents in guessing is that they don't actually want to run it. They're only running it so that you bite on play action. And if you just simply treat play action like a drop back pass. Well, Sam Darnold's not a very good drop back passer. In fact, he's quite awful at it. And we went over some of those stats on Tuesday.
To me, I'm still seeing Sam Darnold just have like supreme confidence in his ability to make big plays and he can make the play, he has the physical talent to make the plays. But he's not like Caleb Williams here and he doesn't have as cool of designs as Caleb Williams is working with. He can't torque his body around like Caleb Williams.
So it doesn't feel like this is a Caleb Williams game. So the comp that I'll give him is that he's a really bad golfer who has all the talent to be a really good golfer and he just like he'll hit a 330 yard bomb and he'll like stick a couple like five feet from the pin from 225 out and like a couple of great bunker shots and then he shoots 95. And it's frankly a personal reflection of me.
But this ain't best ball. You don't get that shitty shot back. That shitty shot went to the other team. And the one other thing I got to mention here, Jake, they have been living on the field position that their defense has given them over the Last four or five weeks, they can't function on long drives. They just don't have them. They'll break a player, too. They cannot consistently get the 7, 8 yards. They're not a good third down team. I know that the stats back up a lot of these like, things and say actually they are. No, watch them. They're not. They're predictable, they're obvious and they have a really hard time just being professional in their offense and ruthless and consistent.
And that is not January football, my friend.
[00:09:44] Speaker B: I think we see this a lot early in seasons where there's like a fun team. There's a fun team and a fun offense that is doing it for the first time. And after a certain point, that fun sort of wanes a little bit. And I think the consistency that the 49ers have built and the multiplicity the 49ers have built in their offense to become balanced after a shitty run game early in the season. The Seahawks run game is so bad, it's so inconsistent and it relies on Kenneth Walker doing wild stuff. And Charbonnet just doesn't have any juice to his game. He's okay. He knows what to do. But I've never liked him. He's okay, but, like, there's not enough consistency.
[00:10:28] Speaker A: So he's a more consistent.
[00:10:29] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't.
[00:10:31] Speaker A: Yeah, he had a nice little 25 yard run where he made a guy miss. I mean, he also. He also broke the tackle in the backfield. Right. And so it could have been a loss of four, turned into a gain of 25. Okay, that's fine.
And that's going to happen when you're running constant zone stuff. If you can get past that first line, all you have to do is make one guy miss. And now you're into the third level and the third level's way back there.
Walker is unquestionably a better back. I hate his acceleration. He doesn't accelerate at all now once the wheel gets moving. He's a hell of a back, but that's not how football works.
[00:11:07] Speaker B: He loves going horizontally more than he does going downhill.
[00:11:11] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. When he really should be a. I'm going to run through your face, dude.
He. He shies away from contact. Is. Is a patently incorrect statement because he's a running back.
We should all personally be shying away from contact on a football field in general. But he just, he. He really thinks it's kind of like Darnold. He thinks he's actually better at the things that he's not good at and doesn't lean into the things that he is really good at. Sam Darnold, if he wanted to, could be just a wonderful game manager. He doesn't want to, and it's well past the point of trying to convince anybody that he'll turn into that guy. And for everybody who's been saying, I know the comment section's been big on this, speaking in sort of sith terms and absolutes, like, Darnold's gonna crap the bed. This dude's a bedwetter. He just is. And you watch how teams have blitzed him in recent weeks. You have to blitz from the outside and he doesn't see stuff. He just doesn't see it. Once you blitz him, he's a bedwetter. And I actually went back and watched a little bit of Minnesota's game against Detroit in Week 18 last year. And you're like, how this guy was an MVP candidate for most of the year and Detroit defense was dead, they were gone, and it proved out in the playoffs that was a big game. One seed on the line. All that stuff.
I.
It's really jarring how you can go from quality to just absolute benchable. Like, they should have benched him in week 18 of last year. And it's the reason that JJ McCarthy's their quarterback now.
[00:12:46] Speaker B: Yeah, it all fell apart. And it's. I'm sorry, but I technically grew up a Jets fan and I remember watching those jets games and you can never unsee what you saw there. And as much as quarterbacks can, and he has developed incredibly well, there's still some traits with him that he's not a guy I think you can ever fully trust, and that might get them to win this game and that might get them to, like, perform in the playoffs well. But there's a lack of full trust there, and I do think that matters in really tight, clenching moments.
[00:13:19] Speaker A: I'm also.
All of this needs to be delivered with the caveat. The Niners defense might be so bad that none of this stuff matters. I mean, like, legitimately.
I can see ways in which Robert Sala can go into the game feeling good. And I can see ways that by the end of the first quarter, Robert Salah is like, I wish I still had hair so I could pull it all out. Like, because we had a game plan.
[00:13:42] Speaker B: He might play, he might be on the field.
[00:13:45] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's.
It's dire stuff. The safety stuff is very, very concerning.
But the defensive line stuff, which I think I had not equal level of concern Safety is always number one concern for me.
But the defensive line stuff, which I was really worried about maybe early in the week before we got into the tape. Like, I think that if the Niners can't get pressure on him and if Robert Salah is not bringing nickel blitz, which he did, we've seen this a bunch this year. It's such a weird thing, and I don't think it's a good thing. We've seen Salah put in the game plan for the next week, the week before, a lot.
And where it's. Here's the thing that we're going to do a bunch next week, and I don't even know if he's conscious of it. Here's the thing, we're going to do a bunch next week, so let's do it now.
And then in last week, they just nickel blitzed all second half and it's like you should be nickel blitzing all game against the Seahawks. Is that coincidence? Is that planning? I don't know, but it kind of bodes well in some regards.
[00:14:51] Speaker B: Yeah. And it'll be interesting. It seems like Renardo Green will be back, which is monumental.
They're not going to. They're not shadowing Diamador Lenor. He's not going to shadow anyone. They don't do that, nor has he earned that right at all. But I do think, like, there's an element of, like, they're going to have to dial up some pressures, and I think overloading it at Bradford and attacking the middle is going to be a really viable recipe for them to get Darnold uncomfortable, even if it doesn't always get home, which it usually doesn't.
[00:15:23] Speaker A: I do want to mention something very quickly. We are.
This is a playoff game. Last week was a playoff game.
Technically, it's not, you know, blues and you're out. But these are. This is a huge contest and they.
[00:15:35] Speaker B: Need the rest, particularly for Trent Williams.
[00:15:37] Speaker A: 100 and Trent's not. I mean, I don't. We have. We're talking now. Even though this is recorded. We're talking before Kyle's gone to the podium. It would stun me if Trent Williams was. I mean, they might say he's still questionable for the game, but, like, that dude ain't playing there. There's been zero indication from Santa Clara that that dude's playing.
So here, here's what I wanted to mention, though. This is a Bill Vinovich game. I have now gotten into a bit of a rabbit hole with these referees. Okay. And I'm not alleging any conspiracies or anything like that. But I know if you get a Ron Torbert game, nothing is going to go right. And so now I'm like, well, I need to start kind of figuring out these patterns. It's a very important part of the game. We talk about refereeing a lot of. And yet I haven't really dove into refereeing too much. Luckily, there's some resources available and shout out to all those. I'll even put them in the. In the description here. So Bill Vinovich is as good as it gets. So this is the NFL saying this is our number one game. You get Bill Vinovich. You might remember Bill vinovich from the 49ers losses to the Chiefs in the Super Bowls.
Here's what you need to know about Bill they're going to call a lot of OPI and blocks in the back, okay? They call a lot of special teams penalties. They have called the third most penalties in the NFL this year, which is weird because Bill Vinovich is known for letting them play, as anyone can attest from the two Super Bowls, the 49ers loss, but less DPIs and defensive holdings.
If I'm a defensive coordinator, I'm leaning into it. If I'm Robert Sala and I know that if I don't do something brash, I might die. It might. My men might die out there. I'm out there holding against JSN every play and if they call it early, so be it. But at least you know it's a spot foul. We move forward and maybe we can adjust, but I'm out there holding them on every play and letting Cooper cup beat me.
[00:17:25] Speaker B: It's like the Lakers whining the other day, I think after they played the Pistons saying whether they foul three or four times every possession, they're not going to call a foul every possession. There is something to that. And the Chiefs did that excellently of saying we're going to be physical as hell from the jump. And if they call that every play, that's not going to be a viable game.
So I think if you establish that very early, that's a viable recipe to get away with some stuff you might not be able to.
[00:17:51] Speaker A: This is Doug Kurtenbach. My dad hates the Seattle Seahawks because he probably hasn't watched a Seattle Seahawks game since the Legion of Boom. And his general stance of committing pass interference on every play being a defensive principle bothered him to his moralistic core and didn't bother me. That's how it goes. The Niners need to, in a weird way as we continue this bizarre rivalry these two teams have.
They need to take a page out of the Legion of Boom, which obviously they have plenty of firsthand coaching experience from.
They need to just steal that game plan almost to a tee. As much as I keep saying it's not a Cover 3 league, it's, you got to move on. I want the 49ers if I'm trying to win this game, if I'm betting on them, which I'm not, but if I was, I would want the 49ers to just play 2023 or, sorry, 2013, 2013 Seattle Legion of Boom defense the entire flipping time. And that means you're going to actually have to pick a free safety, which will be interesting to see come Sunday. But that means a lot of holding, a lot of, A lot of grab assing on the perimeter and we'll, we'll see how, we'll see how it all plays out. But just a very uninspiring watch for the Seattle offense. Seattle defense, on the other hand, they got some boys.
[00:19:15] Speaker B: They're sick. To put it simply, they're sick.
Every player from top to bottom. For the most part, they will, it looks like maybe be without Kobe Bryant, who went from a limited to a do not, did not participate.
That's interesting. But it's like, you never know with those though.
[00:19:32] Speaker A: I think we mentioned. I've mentioned this before. We. You never. I and I should just have a list. You're never sure if teams hold guys out late in the week or early in the week. The Niners are an early week team. The case of like the Bears, they were a late week team. So, you know, never read too far into that. But we'll keep an eye on it. If Kobe Bryant's not there, that's a big deal.
[00:19:52] Speaker B: Yeah. Going from they, they. They're a late week team, but going to a DNP is, is interesting. Yeah. Also, Charles Cross not participating notable.
And so I'll, I'll just say it's a sick group. It's. Ernest Jones is an awesome middle linebacker.
I like their front a lot. Leonard Williams is a problem. And their corners. Josh Job probably doesn't get enough love. He's been awesome this year and I love Devin Witherspoon and even worry is a problem.
[00:20:22] Speaker A: Even worry is a big problem when he's healthy, which will be in question the entire game because he goes to the tent. Once in the first half, once in the second half, he's there. Ricky Pearsall, in a weird way.
Okay. My takeaways on the defense is that if they want to, they can suffocate you. And I think they keep, it's kind of, you know, dogs and stuff will keep the animal that they've killed alive for a sick perverse pleasure to keep playing with it. That's the Seattle defense at times this year where they're like, yeah, we don't have to kill you yet. This is fun.
Which is a really fucked up thing for a defense to do. And it's, it really feels like they're the only defense in the NFL that feels totally in control of a football game in the year 20 well now 26.
I will say this if I had to point out three negatives about the Seattle defense. Their linebackers can get very overaggressive in gap filling. So I think counter runs and gap runs are huge in this one.
They are winning not with penetration but with sort of holding gaps and then timing fills that can be weaponized against teams much as penetration camp. But it's something to note. And then I don't think their edge rushers have like any moves. It's, it's a team of Mikel's, they are a bagless bunch and they, they win. Don't get me wrong, they win, but they win as a collective defensive line. Everybody just sort of again anaconda crushing the quarterback. Whereas you know, you think about most single gap teams and I do think that the Seahawks are maybe the one team in the NFL that can make the argument that they can play any defensive scheme that they want and change up their gaps at will. They played a lot of single gap stuff against Carolina and again, just trying to hold the line.
Didn't really fear Bryce Young. Totally understandable all these things. I, I, I wonder, I wonder if this makes this an easier game. As weird as this sounds for Austin Pleasants, knowing that you're not having to go up against just, you know, a Garrett or a Bosa or something like that. As great as this defense is, they lack just a one on one winner on the defensive line, at least on the perimeter.
[00:22:37] Speaker B: And that's why I see a decent amount of overload blitzes for them where they try and get an advantage to one side and, and not show you who's coming and who's not and try and get you back foot and, and they've, McDonald did that really well against when he was with the Ravens and.
[00:22:53] Speaker A: Got classic, classic California police sirens.
[00:22:57] Speaker B: Classic. But yeah they, they mix it up because they don't have like clear, clear winners at the Edge like you're talking about.
[00:23:04] Speaker A: It'll be fascinating to see. One thing that we haven't really talked about since Purdy has come back at all is the answer being in the play against blitzes because Purdy is, is just operating at such a high level. It hasn't been an issue at all. This game might ends up. It might end up being an issue because again, Mike McDonald's going to throw it from every which way any which time.
And finding those quick answers we saw in the first game these two teams played. McCaffrey, McCaffrey, McCaffrey,. McCaffrey. I'd imagine that Seattle is going to sell out for that. So does that mean Kittle, Kittle, Kittle. Does that mean Pearsall, Pearsall, Pearsall. But there's going to be one, there's going to be one guy who just carries this team offensively over the edge and luckily the Niners have many good options on that front. They're going to have to get the ball out faster. They're just going to have to get the ball out faster. They. As much as Brock freelancing and Russell Wilson is fun and positive, I just don't think that you can trust Pleasants and, and a little bit Burford at this point. I don't think you trust your left side of the line to, to hold up consistently and provide three plus seconds to throw.
But that said, you know, the line has flipped from Niners -1 and a half to Seattle -1 and a half and I'm currently not so sure that that is correct.
I think that Niners one and a half might be the better bet in this one. Where do you stand?
[00:24:36] Speaker B: My gut is Niners. My logical brain is Seahawks.
[00:24:42] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:24:43] Speaker B: Is where I'm at.
[00:24:44] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. It really does come down to.
[00:24:50] Speaker B: It's something where I think logically the Seahawks should win this game. I tend to favor that elite defense and an offense that can be explosive against a very one sided team unless special teams equalizes.
[00:25:03] Speaker A: But I feel very good at special teams too. Now let's be clear. They're just as good, if not better, if not better.
[00:25:10] Speaker B: I just.
There's a Sam Darnold factor and it's just a basic gut feel feel at how well the Niners offense is playing and knowing Kubiak, I just. My gut feel is the Niners and, and that said, I will pick the Seahawks to win this game 31:27 or. Or 34:30 because I think the Niners have to get a touchdown on the last drive to Win it.
[00:25:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I, I agree with a lot of that game script.
I'm, I've waffled on this a million times over. I'm going to take the Niners to win it on a late Sam Darnold turnover.
I think, I think that the Niners get the go ahead score, not dissimilarly at all to what they did against the Bears. And did they get a stop, did they not, you know, on that last drive, who's to say? But I think that the Niners particularly, because, you know, the defense, the Seattle defense is steady. The first halfs for Seattle have been God awful, just God awful over the last like six, seven weeks. And it's again because you're going off the script. You have this game plan and everyone knows how to read that book now. And it's when they get into the second half, when they have to make some adjustments, that things open up a little bit.
But because that defense has kept games tight, that gives them that little bit of edge. If the Niners offense.
The game script for the Niners here is pretty simple. Put it up early.
Show that you can score early because Seattle's defense will tighten. They'll make adjustments. They'll take away some stuff that you thought you could do early that you can't do anymore. But the Seattle offense will, you know, and this is a credit to Kubiak, they'll make some small adjustments. Also helps that, you know, it's sometimes they're just like, I guess we just don't run it anymore and they just go full Big 12 on you.
I think that the Niners get up early, hold them off late. That, that's where I stand. I'm going to go a little bit lower scoring, though. I'm going to go 27, 24 for the Niners in this one.
[00:27:14] Speaker B: Yeah, I'll stick with 3127. Again, I kind of gut feel, feel like the Niners will win. But my logical brain is picking Seattle.
[00:27:22] Speaker A: And my sartorial br Brain says that the Niners should lose significantly because they are busting out these black uniforms for the biggest game at Levi's in quite some time.
That's bad juju all over it. Just throwing that out there. These uniforms will be determined as cursed by the time that this game is over.
Even though I did just pick the 49ers to win it. Perhaps that curse continues as well, which.
[00:27:50] Speaker B: Wait till you see some, some fan videos. It's. It's going to get ugly out there, is my prediction.
[00:27:55] Speaker A: It's going to be rainy. It's going to be cold. No one's going to be able to see who's in what uniforms. Black 49ers helmets. When has that ever gone wrong?
I remember that Brian Boyer game against the Rams on Thursday Night Football.
Bantam, they never even wore black. No, they wore black uniforms. They didn't wear black helmets. Black helmets.
[00:28:14] Speaker B: I kind of like the black helmets. I kind of like the black helmets.
[00:28:17] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. Well, as you engage in your tropical California again, it's raining in the entire state of California. Jake, just sitting outside, we will.
We'll dive into this a little bit further. The sartorial energy of it all needs to be fully, fully edit all this out. This is garbage.
Jake.
[00:28:38] Speaker B: Great. This is great. Thanks for bearing with us with our Internets and whatever, wherever we are and all of the above.
[00:28:44] Speaker A: But we're fascinated, fascinated to see if we talk to you after Saturday's game, my friend. Fascinated.
[00:28:50] Speaker B: We might get. There may be a vertical video. I may be. I may be watching the game on my phone and providing a vertical video uploaded from parts unknown.
[00:28:59] Speaker A: Okay. And then we'll play that and we'll move on with the rest of our lives because it's going to be a doozy. We're looking forward to it immensely and we'll talk to you then. Bye, Sam.
