The 49ers' Offense Cannot Be Stopped

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreigner and Hutch. We have a lot of data points to get to this evening, Jake. [00:00:11] Speaker B: Yes, we do. [00:00:14] Speaker A: Can't say it wasn't an entertaining game. [00:00:17] Speaker B: No, that was. I. I was having a good time watching that the entire time. [00:00:22] Speaker A: I was not. Because I try to take detailed notes on every play and when there's no plays that are uninteresting on either side, it gets a little taxing. I have literally 15 pages of notes here. We will not read them all out. [00:00:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:00:35] Speaker A: But suffice it to say, 48, 27niners beat the Colts. I want to start with the game winning play before we get into studs and duds. ESPN2 did an interesting broadcast tonight. They had Luke Keighley, Dan Orlovsky, Field Yates. It was equal parts enlightening and woeful. [00:00:55] Speaker B: It was. It was essentially, it was field Yates in his position that he's not good at. No, he's good at doing. [00:01:03] Speaker A: But yeah, he's good. [00:01:04] Speaker B: Good at being a panel person, doing a podcast providing insight, not being a host to two guys he knows are like, set up to be the experts. And he's like, I kind of know. He's like, I know he was play. [00:01:17] Speaker A: By play and it was not good. [00:01:18] Speaker B: And it's not his thing. [00:01:20] Speaker A: Bad casting. Bad casting. [00:01:21] Speaker B: That's not his thing. And Dan Orlovsky is like trying to prove. He's like, I'm the expert. And Luke, he's like, do you. I mean, overfronts aren't really relevant here, but I can. Sure, I can explain what one is. [00:01:34] Speaker A: Okay. [00:01:34] Speaker B: And then. And then the camera operators like sort of botching it mid touchdown. [00:01:38] Speaker A: So, yeah. Okay, I will quickly tell you the Monsters, Inc. Situation. So my. My daughter, two Monday Night Footballs ago, it was Chargers, Eagles, two, three. [00:01:50] Speaker B: That sounds right. [00:01:50] Speaker A: Espn a Monsters, Inc. Simulcast where they basically superimposed Monsters, Inc. Into the player. So they took the dots and then on like a 5, 10 second delay, they had Monsters Inc. Characters going and playing. I, trying to watch Monday Night Football, had to make the sacrifice of watching the Monsters, Inc. Feed. [00:02:12] Speaker B: It's kind of sick. [00:02:13] Speaker A: But the killer was that I'm watching. It was fine. And Lottie loved it. She keeps saying like, oh, I'd like to watch Monsters Inc. Football. And I'm like, ooh, it happened one time. So it is. It is. It was. It was fine. Orlovsky was the color commentator for that. He did not realize in the Monsters Inc. Game that it was for children. He had no idea. So that is now my go to, like in this game. He did not realize that he was not the smartest person on the panel. That's an overall issue that Dan Orlovsky needs to talk about with a therapist of some sort. But it made it pretty woeful. But I will say this. The positivity of this broadcast was that you got a very crappy quasi all 22. And because it didn't have. They just decided not to use crowd microphones. It only had the field microphones going. [00:03:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:07] Speaker A: So you could hear Philip Rivers play after play, calling the audibles. And the only other time I've heard this in my life was when the 49. Actually a couple of times when I was covering the Raiders and the Niners and they would play. Do you remember when the chargers played at StubHub Field in Carson? [00:03:27] Speaker B: Oh, God, I don't know. [00:03:29] Speaker A: The LA Galaxy played. So before SoFi was built and the Rams were playing at the Coliseum, the Chargers moved to Los Angeles. They left. [00:03:38] Speaker B: Oh, I forgot. That's where they were playing San Diego. [00:03:41] Speaker A: And they played in Carson at StubHub Stadium, which is a single bowl that holds like 27 to 30,000. The press box, which I actually had, having covered MLS in the past had been in was just an. Just the top of the stands with the table and so you could hear. And it's Chargers. So there were no fans and you could hear everything that happened on the field. It was incredible. It's my favorite NFL venue. This, this. That was the last time I was able to hear everything. And today we were able to hear everything. I kept. This is the other thing I kept. [00:04:19] Speaker B: Yes, by the way. Just, just real quick. Dieter was like, I'm so glad I tracked every single audible I heard from Philip Rivers. And I went, what did you say? [00:04:29] Speaker A: Philip Rivers is calling out the place. I was going to go back at some point this week because there's nothing else happening this week and go through and see what all the plays were to deepen my understanding. I'm beyond. Seek help, sicko. Okay. And so he's yelling out rat. He's yelling. And I'm just trying. I'm going to go through and I'm going to figure out what all these plays were. I noted beginning of the fourth quarter, second play was an audible. And I'll just pull it up real fast. It was 53 Orlando left, first and 10 from the 49ers 23 yard line. Warren. 53 or 2 Warren. It was 53 Orlando left. It's a basically a Y choice. Route was clear outs and then Taylor to the Flat and then a wide choice. It's a spot route, you know, just right. He's gonna sit. He's gonna sit under the linebacker. 53, Orlando left. I wrote this down. I'm just going to show you. My wife got me this cool new e ink notebook. 53, Orlando left. Put a little star next to it at the time. Little did I know that the next time the Colts would be at this time, the 29 yard line. Rivers is going to call out Orlando right. Because Warren is on the right side of the formation. De Winters hears this. [00:05:50] Speaker B: You saw, you saw the way he sat. He went and he. And he slid and he moved a couple yards to the right. [00:05:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:57] Speaker B: And didn't move his feet. Regardless of what he saw from that. [00:06:00] Speaker A: Point on, he made a horrendous play if he didn't know the play, but he knew the play and the game was over. I have maintained for several weeks now that the formula for the 49ers is four touchdowns and a turnover. They had five touchdowns and were plus one in the turnover margin because of Orlando right and 53, Orlando left. [00:06:25] Speaker B: And, and it's again the part of like, it should just be Luke Keakley in a booth alone. It should be silent. There shouldn't be any play by play. It should just be Luke Keakley just watching each play and then saying what he saw. Because you saw him go like, you're like, oh, so like this is what it's like when a linebacker actually knows what's happening in the game. And you're like, okay. So it makes sense that De Winters in real time is going, oh, yeah, I remember that. I can hear very. And also, again, if we can hear that clearly, like, there's no. Like, they hear every single thing he's saying. And also, Philip Rivers been out of the league for a while. Not being that careful. I'm not sure that he ever was. But like, not like he's trying to protect any state classified information. Not being that clever with it was. [00:07:16] Speaker A: It was a high school football coach calling out the plays and making the wrong call and a. You know, it pays to listen. [00:07:25] Speaker B: Gotta say, played, played pretty well. Phil did for what he. For what he could do. [00:07:29] Speaker A: The quote, it was awesome. The quote, by the way, from. From Winters is they did the exact opposite of what we thought they were going to do. [00:07:37] Speaker B: Is that what he said? [00:07:38] Speaker A: He said came out and did that makes the opposite of what we expected, which to be fair, it looked like. [00:07:44] Speaker B: It because we said we. It was totally the exact opposite of what we said that makes me feel much better. [00:07:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:51] Speaker B: Because again, that's exactly where I was going with it. First play of the game, shot play, attack the safeties. [00:07:58] Speaker A: Right. Couldn't. [00:07:59] Speaker B: Couldn't get it there. Could not. Ball did not come close. [00:08:03] Speaker A: How did you describe that throw in your text to meat. [00:08:06] Speaker B: Meatball. Yeah. It was just a meatball. [00:08:09] Speaker A: I think Mike Sando referred to Philip Rivers as a man who throws without a thumb. [00:08:14] Speaker B: That sounds about right. That's a pretty good description. You ever had matzo ball soup? [00:08:19] Speaker A: Matzo ball soup there. [00:08:20] Speaker B: So normally it's great, but there are occasionally times where for some reason that it gets too dense and then you bite into the middle and it's like a rock. Yep, that's. That's the football Philip Rivers was throwing because it was. He throws it like a shot put. It's really, honestly incredible to watch. And it was awesome that, like, regardless of his limitations, they said the 49ers safety suck and have not been challenged. And we're going to go at them. And it worked. [00:08:47] Speaker A: Which is. Which is what I think anybody with a functioning quarterback and offensive coordinator would do. We just. And I'll take the L. I didn't think they had it. That was all guts and brawn and smarts, and it ended up biting them in the ass. But that. That was impressive. I'm going to give a quick shout out on the defensive side, Dee Winters with the. With the play of the game. On the defensive side, C.J. west and Alfred Collins, immense. I want. I want them to play every snap. I know there's diminishing returns when you play someone every snap. I know that's not a viable option, but Jesus Christ. Anybody else on that interior is woeful. West was awesome. Again, Collins had your boom bust, and what a boom it was. Those two are awesome. [00:09:35] Speaker B: It's like with him, with those two together, you have a level of. The guy next to Collins is no longer getting washed out and destroyed. So Collins is free to. To go like, boom, bust. Yeah. And unlike Kalia Davis, he takes up so much space that Collins does this thing where even when he loses a rep, his size is so immense that he can recover and, like, sometimes make a run stop just by lunging or sometimes get his hands up at the last second where his technique can be sloppy and he can have a technically bad rep. You can be Grady 90 of it as a bad rep. And at the last second, he sort of self actualizes and gets involved in the play in a way that like a sort of stumpier guy like Kalia Davis, who's getting pummeled into the dirt about a fourth, maybe a third of the time, like, just can't do. [00:10:27] Speaker A: And Jordan Elliott was just getting pushed to Toledo. I know he had a couple of nice reps, but. Yeah, again, we're back to. It's the same goddamn thing we talked about. I mean, I. It's not even that I give a damn. Like, I really don't. We would have had an interesting thing to talk about regardless. But it's like, holy, how many times can I come on this channel? How many times can I write that? Kalia Davis. I'm sorry. Well, him, too. But fucking Jordan Elliott is getting hit with duos and is doing nothing to stop it. Like, what. What are these reps where they're like, we need to keep Jordan Elliott on the field because. [00:11:01] Speaker B: And. And I'll be. And I'll literally. I'll actually come to Jordan Elliott's defense because he's been better this year where you saw last week, and it was much worse without him. But that's to say, like, he's not. He's not like, a plus player. Like, there's so much inconsistency there. It's just never been a winning recipe. Like, he's. He's always. Always been like a rotational large player that the 49ers were like, well, he's big and has athleticism, so we're gonna promote him and bet on him. And it's never quite panned out. And instead of saying, no, let's just have him in the. And. And I guess it's been a rotation, but it's like, I think they've just counted on him too much. And it felt like Malik Collins, where it's like, Malik Collins, like, put other pieces around him or give him a limited role and he can really excel. But, like, you ask him to do the world, and it's not going to work. [00:11:49] Speaker A: It's. And listen, I want to be clear about this. They expected Jonathan Taylor first, second, and third. They were awesome against Jonathan Taylor. I think that my suggestion that just having a competent middle linebacker in the game in Tatum Bethune would change things, and that's what it looked like to me. Tatum Bethune had nine tackles in this game. They got down to Eric Kendricks at middle linebacker for a point. That didn't go well. And. But I thought that Bethune was excellent. I thought that Malik Mustafa was really strong in stopping the run. Jair had his moments, but kind of going back to the initial premise, Sal is out there. He expected one thing. The Colts are giving him the other. I mean, and to the nth degree they just went. We are a full time passing offense and Jair Brown in some of this pass coverage stuff like Marquis Siegel. I know he's playing special teams now. He got benched for less. I just don't, I just don't get it. I just don't get it. It's not like Marquis Siegel was bad against the run. He was good against the run. So I just, I have no earthly idea what it is they see and what, what's going on there. I, they play. You know, Jordan James was active today. Watkins was active today. They got kind of weird with their ups and downs. How about we play Seagull next week? [00:13:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm, I'm. I would like to see him playing again. It's just so clearly like they have a liability. Like I've been a huge fan of Mallet Mustafa, but he clearly doesn't have the same feel. He takes some weird angles. He's a little passive in, in pass coverage. And then it's like Jair just gets cooked. Like there's, there's so many times where if he's in a one on one, he just gets cooked. I personally, I, Yeah, I, I think it's tough because you're getting to the end of the season. You're like you're going to put the rookie back in. I, I don't know that they'll do that, but I would like to see it. [00:13:45] Speaker A: I, I do think has right now. [00:13:48] Speaker B: But I do think it's fascinating that like the Colts, regardless of, of Philip Rivers limitations, knowing his limitations went. This is clearly a weakness in their secondary and we can attack it, we can exploit it. I do think they went a little too far in one direction also. Jonathan Taylor, there was one play where he, he missed a read. Bad. [00:14:06] Speaker A: Yes. [00:14:06] Speaker B: There was a. There was a wide open hole to the left and he went. It was, it was like. [00:14:11] Speaker A: Well, to be fair, they didn't have your man, Tanner Bortolini and he got injured early. [00:14:16] Speaker B: He got hurt immediately. He got concussed immediately. And then they benched. Who was it the left tackle? No, the running back. Who, who we. Who I kind of like. Yeah, Abdullah. [00:14:28] Speaker A: They played him a little bit actually. He got back in the mix there as a pass catcher. He had a nice little swing round. [00:14:32] Speaker B: They pulled him off special teams. [00:14:33] Speaker A: They pulled him off special teams and played the guy that they. [00:14:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:36] Speaker A: Called up from practice squad who might be their fourth best. They Got some sick ass receivers, the Colts. Now Alex Pierce is that dude. [00:14:42] Speaker B: Yeah. Should we Talk about the 49ers offense? I don't know why people. I think people's being weird in the comments. You need to ignore them, by the way. [00:14:49] Speaker A: No, some people are just generally weird and I don't want to see that. But yeah, we should talk about the absolute juggernaut that is the 49ers offense that hasn't punted in the month of December that has Brock Purdy out here playing at a legit MVP level. It has two offensive weapons. Well, we'll see if they have the second one for the Bears. But as two offensive weapons, that, that cannot be matched up under any Circumstance. And Christian McCaffrey and, and George Kittle, Juwan Jennings, I mean, you want to talk about just, just absolutely strong catching. What is that? [00:15:22] Speaker B: Is there a, I gotta say, is. [00:15:24] Speaker A: There a term for just catching the ball so strongly that it feels like you're doing angry hands? Angry hands. I love it. [00:15:30] Speaker B: I love angry hands. It's funny. Jennings has done this like masterful thing of like had this sort of contract dispute doing all that. Like he got like a sideline spat and Shanahan is sort of like, it's a little bit of like the Dennis Rodman treatment of like, he's gonna show up, like he's going to be there. Yep, I know he's going to show up and he's going to ball. [00:15:51] Speaker A: And like, I don't really guaranteed, like. [00:15:53] Speaker B: Whereas like iuk, like we initially thought he was like a more down to earth guy and it's like Jennings, no, he just balls like he just shows up and regardless of how many functional ribs or whether his arteries are connected, it doesn't matter. He's going to go out there and he's going to play football. Regardless of whether he makes it off the football field. At the end of the day, he's going to make some angry handed catches. [00:16:16] Speaker A: Five touchdowns in his last four games. Third. And Juwan is still very alive. [00:16:22] Speaker B: It's awesome when it's like, you know it's coming and it still works so consistently. [00:16:27] Speaker A: We're going to quickly address this. Dieter, can you take off that ridiculous New York Rangers hat? Okay, buddy. You're a die hard Rangers fan. Nobody cares. I'm not. I just wear original six hats. But you know what? [00:16:38] Speaker B: Okay. [00:16:38] Speaker A: Get hit with this band. Damn. Sorry. [00:16:40] Speaker B: All right. [00:16:40] Speaker A: I'm not looking at it anymore, Jake. I apologize. People should know by now. The real sickos know by now that I rotate through Original six teams die hard. What an incredible leap to a conclusion there. I'm also going to leap to the conclusion that the Niners are never going to punt or lose again. [00:16:57] Speaker B: For anyone who doesn't know, they have not punted in the month of December. Yeah. [00:17:01] Speaker A: Last punt was fourth quarter against the Browns. [00:17:04] Speaker B: Thomas Morstead is just loving life just has to hold. By the way, Eddie Pinier. [00:17:11] Speaker A: Thank you. Possible not to talk about. [00:17:14] Speaker B: For a guy that like, like, you know, when they put up the graphics, they're like his range is 54 yards. [00:17:20] Speaker A: Not anymore. Not with a cable. Not indoors. Jake, what did I tell you? Year of ties and 60 yard field goals and those ties have not come through. I thought it would be five. I was a little too hasty on that. We almost got another one with the Bears packers game except for that throw. But there have been a lot of close ones. A lot of ones that looked like they could be a tie. And boy, have there been a shit ton of 60 yard field goals. [00:17:43] Speaker B: That is, that is as close as you can get it without making it that if Kendrick Bourne, and I'm not actually blaming Kendrick Bourne, I'll blame him for plenty. But like he sort of went out backwards and if he goes out like a little bit, if he goes out even a yard, notice that forward when he makes that catch or tries to get a field, which I don't blame that ball out. [00:18:05] Speaker A: Just stretch that ball out. [00:18:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Like he could have got a couple extra yards and I get it because he's just trying to get it balance quickly. I'm not blaming him but like just thinking about it, he needed a foot. [00:18:15] Speaker A: A foot. Who knew that? Eddie Piniera. I mean I don't think even Kyle Shanahan truly knew that. Eddie Piniero had six. [00:18:21] Speaker B: No one kicks the ball straighter. I don't know how he does it. And I, and I must assume that like he's kicking it differently than most because there's, there's no wiggle. It's like always in a straight line every single time. [00:18:33] Speaker A: God, I wish my drives on the. [00:18:35] Speaker B: Golf four year, like $15 million extension after the season. [00:18:39] Speaker A: It's his only missed field goal and it was by far his coolest kick of the year. [00:18:44] Speaker B: It was incredible. It was incredible. That's so sick to be like I made all, every field goal except for a 64 yarder that was inches away from going in. [00:18:52] Speaker A: And not just that he. And this is why I brought up the demonstration ball. [00:18:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:56] Speaker A: The ball hit square on the crossbar. It was dead Middle of the crossbar and then hit dead middle in there. Like if it was an inch this way it bounces in like it was. Again. I think you should get a point. And this brings me back to my main football point. [00:19:12] Speaker B: You want to bring the rouge. [00:19:13] Speaker A: Rouges. Thank you. [00:19:14] Speaker B: I knew. I knew you were going there. [00:19:18] Speaker A: Okay, I need to give a positive shout out left side of the 49ers line and in particular Jake Brendel and Spencer Burford. You knew what you were getting from Trent Williams who was incredible against the Titans and followed it up with another. [00:19:32] Speaker B: Yeah, they. They did not get home. They. [00:19:35] Speaker A: They did one time off the right side with the. I think it was a six man blitz and that was the. The Luke Farrell one yard gain which incredible. I mean that. What a. A play that will never be discussed again. That really could have turned this game. [00:19:52] Speaker B: We gave. That. I gave him so much difference, but my God, what a dud of a signing. [00:19:57] Speaker A: Well, not today. Not today. Without him, where would they have been? Jake Tonjis, you know, just all he does is catch touchdowns again. [00:20:07] Speaker B: He. [00:20:07] Speaker A: He. [00:20:07] Speaker B: Ross Dwelly died so he could live. [00:20:10] Speaker A: That's also shout out field. Yates when. When Farrell got that ball off of the strip sack or whatever and he's like, hey, here's Charlie Warner coming around. It's like Charlie Warner hasn't been around for several years. [00:20:22] Speaker B: You know, Might as well. Might as well. Yeah. [00:20:25] Speaker A: Charlie Warner probably give you more at this point. But the left side of the 49ers offensive line was incredible in this game. And you could just tell that anytime they wanted to move the ball, they just ran it left. [00:20:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Doing much. And that's like a. Again, it's funny just to have watched this defense and been like pretty confidently like, yeah, this is a pretty good group. And then the Niners truly picked them apart. Literally every single drive. Every single drive except for the interception, which again might have been tipped. And also was this close to Kendrick Bourne catching it, which really quickly before we talk about Brock Purdy, which is we must overdue shout out Kendrick Bourne for having to do the money celebration, which I know he practiced every single day this week. [00:21:11] Speaker A: That's right. [00:21:11] Speaker B: Having to do it twice because he dropped the first one on what should have been probably the easiest catch of the season for him. [00:21:18] Speaker A: No question. [00:21:18] Speaker B: Just. Just an all time on brand Kendrick Bourne move. [00:21:22] Speaker A: I. So we're leaving tomorrow to go to Florida and so there's just a million things to do. Right? You got two small kids, you got to travel. It's a Million things to do. So we drop off Moose with, with the dog sitter. My wife thought the game was at seven. It was not. So I'm now taking moose at like five to get across town. It was, it's like a 20 minute roundabout but like we're in it. So I'm getting the pregame show, whatever. And as I'm pulling up to the house, I hear the coin toss and it's like. And it's like oh, on the. And this is the NFL logo. On the other one is 62. And I go, oh no. Ron Torbert, the only referee whose number I know because he's so. And that's when I thought, oh, everything that I thought going into this game will not pertain. Nothing normal will come out of this football game. [00:22:12] Speaker B: I got a message from Dieter before the game, literally before the game even started that just said Torbert game. This is going to be a mess. [00:22:22] Speaker A: It's just he's never officiated a normal football game ever. There was a situation where he didn't know what down. It was. Um, there was, it was just he missed the Kendrick, you know, it's just his crew always sucks. It's just every pray. Pray that the 49ers, I don't think they've had a Torbert game this year. Pray that the 49ers don't get a Torbert game in the playoffs because maybe that crew won't make it to the playoffs to be fair. But like that man is the Twilight Zone of referees. [00:22:52] Speaker B: You think just a brutal scene. [00:22:54] Speaker A: You think that Hercules kid is bad? Torbert. Torbert. So. And it paid out. It paid out that bet. [00:23:02] Speaker B: Which brings us to Brock birdie, 23. [00:23:05] Speaker A: Minutes in, best game of his career. [00:23:07] Speaker B: I mean if you ever thought we were just going to be direct and talk about the obvious thing first, you don't know the channel. And that's. And that's okay, that's fine if you're new, genuinely welcome. Yeah, Brock Purdy. The obvious thing, five touchdowns by the way, in case you're wondering, like his EPA on drop act was. I believe it was point five seven, which just for context I have zero point six one. Yeah, that's per pass. But, but like just for drop back to standardize it is the same thing. 0.57 per drop back. Matthew Stafford, who's like the clear MVP, I know some people debate it like has 12 more touchdowns than one of the other guys. [00:23:46] Speaker A: Listen, you're not, I'm not get. You're not going to get an Argument for Drake May from. [00:23:50] Speaker B: He has a 0.2 EPA per drawback. So, like, three times that. Three times that. Which is to say Matthew Stafford during the MVP season, Brock Purdy was three times that average tonight. Everything was per. Was perfect for him. And it was something where it was like, it wasn't just the offense. There's some games where you're like, oh, Kyle's just dialed up and everything's working. Like, Purdy's timing was right. He was surveying the field. He wasn't antsy. He wasn't padding the ball as much as right. And the touch on it, like, even the one that Kittle dropped in the end zone. [00:24:23] Speaker A: Oh, that was a good throw. [00:24:25] Speaker B: The ball to Jen, to Jennings on the other pylon in the end. [00:24:28] Speaker A: What a throw. [00:24:29] Speaker B: His touch was, like, outstanding. They're just. I don't know what you could even really criticize. He was downright phenomenal. [00:24:37] Speaker A: Is there a way that they can play all of their games from this point on? Not in Santa Clara, but instead in Domes? Because I'm starting to think that having perfect conditions might help Brock Purdy be a better quarterback. I mean, what was his last best game? Arizona. I mean, I wonder what he would have done in the Superdome in week two. [00:24:58] Speaker B: You know, I mean, it was just like. It's funny because the existential question the 49ers face is like, all right, your defense is trash. Yes. But it is interesting because it's like, at this point, with the two defense, the young defensive tackles coming on a little bit and having gross. [00:25:16] Speaker A: Stout has some real flash these days. [00:25:18] Speaker B: That's who I was going to get to. They had. The two defensive tackles are doing a little something, the rookies. And then you have four, like, interesting defensive ends and Bryce Huff and Keon White and Sam Okawanu. And you tour Gross Matos, which is like, okay, that's actually, like. That's a group. It's not an elite group. Right. This team's gonna still struggle to rush the passer, particularly because the defensive tackle group's iffy. But, like, that's a group of competent defensive ends. Sure. With Bryce Huff being above average and all those guys providing a little something. I thought Dee Winter's being a great linebacker. He's been Tatum Bethune being able to fill, and it's like, okay, and your secondary is just going to be bad. Right? It's. [00:25:58] Speaker A: Well, how much of this do you pin on Ronaldo not being there? [00:26:03] Speaker B: I mean, for a guy that, like, has just been up and down all Season long. A lot. Because again, I think you pointed out early in the season, they put a lot on his shoulders and there's a lot of having to do that. I. It's a really impossible task of having to do that thing where he trails like across the field on those dig routes. [00:26:22] Speaker A: Yep. [00:26:23] Speaker B: And it's just like it's a truly impossible position to be in. And you saw Luder get burned on it badly. [00:26:28] Speaker A: And to be fair, Patrick certain can do it. [00:26:31] Speaker B: I mean, it's Patrick certain. You. You see, Lenore doesn't have to do it nearly as much, but he gets burned on it sometimes. [00:26:38] Speaker A: That's why he doesn't do it as much. [00:26:40] Speaker B: But yeah, Luder and I will give Luder a little bit of the benefit of the doubt. Just. Just on that one where he got called for dpi, it probably wasn't. [00:26:48] Speaker A: That was bad. [00:26:48] Speaker B: That was a bad call. But, like, he's not good. He hasn't provided. Provided anything that makes you feel positive and you go, oh, look, he looks like an elite corner in terms of size. And just physically he looks like a possibly great corner. And then there's just no sense, no ball skills. [00:27:07] Speaker A: No, he's a great corner for a bygone era. If you were to run, you know why Gus Bradley loves him? Because Gus Bradley would have absolutely loved him 10 years ago when everyone could run straight, cover three every single rep, which was just keep the guy. [00:27:20] Speaker B: Remember Antonio Cromartie pretty. [00:27:22] Speaker A: I mean, like legitimately, but that's just not how you play corner in the NFL today. And wide receivers have gotten better. Scheme has gotten incredibly more complicated, and defensive scheme has had to match in its complications. And corners are the ones who are off screen, so we don't get to get into the nuance of it all that much. So it's never part of a popular conversation. But they're the ones who are getting thrown absolutely to the Lions when it. [00:27:46] Speaker B: Comes to such a brutal job. It's a brutal job. [00:27:49] Speaker A: I'm going to say it. Safeties are destiny. And now more than ever. It wasn't just that in the past, they were just your last line of defense. So if you had shitty ones, you found out pretty quickly. Now they have to be so multiple and they have to fill so many run lanes and they have to be effectively corners whenever they're one on one. Like, yeah, it's more destiny than ever. And corners are having to play safety all the time and having, you know, having. I mean, certainly you want guys who will crash the run game. I don't think you can have a good defense unless you have corners that tackle well, like the defensive secondary is everything in this day and age. [00:28:24] Speaker B: It almost gets to a point where sort of philosophically you could be like, all right, we're not going to stop anything on defense, so we should take shots. We should be hyper aggressive. And I'm not saying that this is how I expect it to play out, but you can make a case that you should really study for certain tells. On. Obviously they do this, but I mean like really look for plays where you can jump passing lanes and be hyper aggressive and say we're going to play for turnovers and not to stop anyone. [00:28:55] Speaker A: Do it because Winters did today. Just don't, you know, do it without having the other team tell you the play before it happened. [00:29:00] Speaker B: By the way, watch. Watch him. He was flying like he is. He was phenomenal. And, and I really. I know we briefly mentioned Upton's doubt, but like that was one of my notes early is he had to like genuinely elite nickel reps. [00:29:14] Speaker A: Yes. [00:29:14] Speaker B: On Josh Downs, who to be fair looked like he was sort of phoning it in sort of Cabo mindset in this game. But he's a player I really like. Like, he's a really good player. [00:29:26] Speaker A: I don't remember who he squared up on on. I think it was a touchdown. Yeah, he inside outed somebody in the slot. [00:29:34] Speaker B: He's a. Nah, he's a nasty little player. [00:29:36] Speaker A: He's really good. Alec Pierce is so damn good. Pittman's a good receiver. [00:29:40] Speaker B: Like, it's a really good. It's like they have all like B plus receivers. [00:29:45] Speaker A: I mean, Pierce might end up being an A like Alec Pierce might. And I hate to do the white guy, white guy thing, but he might be the full end manifestation of a Ricky Pierce Hall. Like he's, he's really, really good. And the people who I trust to. [00:29:58] Speaker B: Break down your brand's lunch money. [00:30:00] Speaker A: Truth. So imagine if they had a quarterback with a thumb. I guess they did. It was Daniel Jones. And people were saying some outlandish about Daniel Jones earlier this year. By the way, Jonathan Taylor, his last four games. I'll pull it up here going into this one. And this is why I thought it rather weird that everyone was so concerned about Jonathan Taylor coming into this game. Last four games. So he had 244 against Atlanta and Berlin, two of W2. You know, a big chunk of that. I think like 150 yards of that came off of plays that would have been whistled dead today because they just did not do forward progress today at all. They just whistled that dead immediately. [00:30:38] Speaker B: Yeah. Made me. [00:30:39] Speaker A: They probably heard me on KMBR this morning at 6am being like, you know, Jonathan Taylor, he had like two plays that should have been whistled dead. That turned into like an 83 and a 70 yard run against Atlanta. So if you just tackle better than Atlanta, which is a very low bar, you should be okay. Last four games coming into this one, 3.6 yards per carry, 4 yards per carry, 3.5 yards per carry, 3.5 Yards per carry. Today, 2.9 yards per carry. [00:31:03] Speaker B: He. I was not impressed. Again, I mentioned the one play where I. There was a hole open and he just ran into the back of his offensive line. And not having Bortolini is a big part of that. [00:31:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:12] Speaker B: And again, they didn't get him in much of a rhythm, but like he doesn't look anywhere near as explosive as he did early or like he's seen it as clearly. Meanwhile, McCaffrey looks like he's getting every single yard possible. Just phenomenal. [00:31:27] Speaker A: What's crazy to me is that this is this team, the Colts is. You can, as we talked about on Thursday, you can run it outside on them that, you know, their linebackers were gettable. The corners are obviously gettable. They put Cam Bynum as a single high safety. He's usually just kind of standing there waiting to stop the run. And he was standing in the right spot today for the interception, but like he didn't move. He just stood there and the ball found him. But when you had Grover Stewart and then you add DeForest Buckner and forgive me, I forget the other big 98. I mean, just absolutely massive, dude. Yeah, they have a couple, just absolute horses on the interior. Big defense you can't run on the interior. Except the 49ers are like, you want to bet they. They ran inside zone? Well, today even Brian Robinson ran inside zone. [00:32:14] Speaker B: Again, this, again the Colts defense again, coming into this game, teams run 60% outside the tackles, more than any other team in the league. And the 49ers just really. I, I felt like, and maybe the tape will say something different, but I felt like they had a really balanced run game. [00:32:29] Speaker A: Yes. [00:32:31] Speaker B: I mean, I mean, literally everything they dialed up worked genuinely. Everything. [00:32:35] Speaker A: 3.4 yards per rush on inside zone this season for the Colts. And today I saw a 24 yarder. I saw an 18 yarder. I saw a couple tensions. I saw Brian Robinson break an 11 yarder. [00:32:47] Speaker B: I was just going to mention. How about Brian Robinson not being A negative player. He doesn't have to be great, just. [00:32:53] Speaker A: Be well, okay, he had a really nice move on this one. So it's not fair to say that he only gets what you block for him. But I, again, I'm going to keep saying it because I don't feel like the narrative has properly shifted like this 49ers offensive line is whooping ass right now. [00:33:08] Speaker B: I have always maintained that this is a second. And every time I talk to the offensive lineman, they never agree with me. They don't agree well, they sort of go, well, you know, they, they don't. There's never like a straight answer. But I always feel like they are. Second half of the season. Offensive line, yeah, where it's an, it's a group and it's a scheme that's predicated on timing and rhythm and there's just reps. And because the preseason has changed and because you don't get a lot of live reps, it takes longer for it to all click. And the amount of runs and you hear it so much in press conferences from Shanahan, from offensive linemen and they go, well, we were actually one or two blocks away and it takes time and eventually you get there and it doesn't all hit, but you go from having like three or four guys missing an assignment to having one or two and that's like out on the edge turning it from like a 9 or 10 yard game into a 70 yarder and it's like that's. I think they're at the stage now where more often than not they're winning and hitting their spots. [00:34:13] Speaker A: I mean the wide receivers are also blocking their asses off right now. Juwan Jennings, you expect it. But Juwan wasn't blocking very well early this season. He looks healthy. I, I mean I know that he's probably broken in a million places in who knows what else is going on. [00:34:28] Speaker B: But he's gotten used to it. It's. There's novelty has worn off and things have healed enough where he's functional. [00:34:33] Speaker A: I mean it's unbelievable. I thought Marcus Robinson, who had a touchdown catch in this game on a really nice just seam route where him and Brock were just, you know, figure out what the leverage is and then go that way. That was some big 12 ass football they were playing. It stretches today where it's just full on five out, do whatever it is you want to do. Everybody go deep, I'll throw it to you. Which is fun in moderate doses. I'm not sure if I enjoy it as a Baseline predication of NFL football. But you take it on a night like tonight. But DeMarcus Robinson's blocking his ass off. Can I. Can we also mention, you know, they play Jordan Watkins and they used him as an insert blocker. [00:35:12] Speaker B: I was gonna mention. So him and Jennings both did. I don't know what to call it. I called it like, a wrinkle or a variation of dash, but it's not dash motion because it's not quite turning their back. It's not quite going full, like, perpendicular. [00:35:25] Speaker A: So it's like a. It's like a wham block. [00:35:28] Speaker B: It's from. It's from like, whatever Juice, wherever Juice is playing, where it's sort of in line, like, literally lined up as a tight end. Right. And then it's sort of like turning in, but they're sort of doing a shuffle more than it's dash. But it feels like the same principle. [00:35:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:49] Speaker B: It's just like they don't trust them to do it in the same way because the timing's different. Yeah. And it's a little bit easier, but that's the first time this season I've seen them do that. And I think it's a little bit of, like, the Rams of just going like, we're going to use a lot of receivers, and the Rams have used, you know, three tight ends, but the 49ers saying, well, like, we kind of trust our tight end or our wide receivers more than our tight ends in some respects to block. So we're going to go from there, and it's going to get teams to have to match our wide receiver personnel. [00:36:21] Speaker A: Right. [00:36:21] Speaker B: So we're going to get a lighter box or lighter personnel and then basically just use them as, like, a lead blocker. I think it's really cool. I don't know that it worked that well. I saw Watkins completely whiffed right on his assignment. Didn't block a soul. Right. So it's funny that they ran it with him, but I do like the concept of running it that way. [00:36:40] Speaker A: It's also interesting that. I mean, just. Again, you say it's interesting they ran it with him. Like, I wouldn't have thought that they would use Jordan Watkins as an insert blocker, Puka Nukua style. [00:36:50] Speaker B: Yeah, but Kyle's a sick man. [00:36:52] Speaker A: I mean, it's like that's a major responsibility and a very deep wrinkle in the playbook to throw on a rookie. And yet there he was. [00:36:59] Speaker B: It's funny. It's weird. It's like when they've used Jordan Watkins. It's like they've done it in like a very trusting way while also being like, no, you're never going to see the light of day. It's very true. [00:37:08] Speaker A: You can't do the easy stuff. I know he could do the easy stuff. [00:37:11] Speaker B: It's like the J R Smith of like, you're only going to hit a shot when there's two defenders in your face. [00:37:15] Speaker A: I mean, pretty much it is. It is wild how they use those guys. And I'm sure that the defense is like, what the fuck is going on here? [00:37:23] Speaker B: Right. [00:37:24] Speaker A: But just kind of on a macro point here, the Niners have. As much as the Niners offense feels like it has evolved and ascended and all these things. [00:37:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:36] Speaker A: So much of their great shit the last two weeks in particular has come out of 21 personnel. So as much as it feels like this is like a juggernaut that we've never seen before, it's just a new wrinkle on the same old stuff, which is the genius of Kyle Shanahan. It really is. He's found a way to take his offense and merge it with a Big 12, Iowa State, Arizona high school football spread and do it with 21 personnel. Find a way to get Kyle jus check to be not just in there and being a chess piece, but be like a actual impact was awesome. [00:38:15] Speaker B: Pretty lost along with the rest of the team early in the year and then just has been, I really think, since they incorporated Dash. And it's not that that has. That is like defining what the offense is. But it got. It seemed to get his confidence back and it seemed to get them going and it. And it sort of plays into. It's an offense that likes rhythm and flow and motion. [00:38:39] Speaker A: Yes. [00:38:39] Speaker B: And is this sort of sense of perpetual movement. [00:38:43] Speaker A: Yep. [00:38:43] Speaker B: And. And it felt like once he got that, like he. He feels confident in his role and that he's trusted again and he knows where he fits in and he's been playing well. [00:38:53] Speaker A: I think it's. If I had to simplify it even further, I would say that it feels like the 49ers offense and the dash motion started week seven against Atlanta when they ran a ton of gap stuff. [00:39:04] Speaker B: Out of nowhere and then amped up even more against the Giants 100% again. [00:39:09] Speaker A: Four down linemen firing off. If you're playing four down, they're going to hit you with gap. And they did that again today. I thought that there were a couple really nice polls, but it was mostly, you know, fullback, lead, stuff like that. They were Able to run the stretch play really well out of both a toss and out of a under center handoff mesh point. But it feel. It felt like by getting Juice in motion, not only, obviously, the positives that come from just having a little bit of momentum behind him, hitting it, hitting the hole and providing a block, but it also felt like the Niners started to get the upper hand physically. Like going into a play. Right. Something that we had talked about a lot was it felt like defenses had caught up to the Niner scheme in a lot of ways. Their scheme hasn't really changed. It's. It's. Obviously, there's new wrinkles and stuff, but nothing crazy. It's not like they're running a completely different offense again, all their good stuff's coming out of 21. But by having both, you know, Kittle and Juice in motion, as opposed to a Debo Samuel or Ricky Pearsall or Juwan Jennings, it feels like the defense is having to respond as the ball is being snapped. Whereas the Niners previously going up against those chaos defenses they had such troubles against, and I don't think they do anymore. They were the ones having to respond as the ball was being snapped, and I just think giving them that mental upper hand has been huge. [00:40:38] Speaker B: Yeah, it feels like they're dictating the terms of engagement. And when they were having to say, what are we seeing here? On every snap, it felt like too much. It felt like there were certain points where Brock had way too much responsibility on his shoulders and they didn't have the pieces. And, yeah, then he was trying to do the. It's sort of that vicious cycle of, well, this isn't working, so I have to, like, pull it all together. And then you put too much on, and then you're not seeing it clearly because you're trying to take too much on your shoulders. And now it feels like they trust everything that they're doing. He's probably trusting it too much because he's throwing balls to Kittle. And it's funny because you're like, he shouldn't throw that. But it keeps working every damn time. [00:41:22] Speaker A: Talking. You're talking about that he saw. [00:41:24] Speaker B: I'm talking about every week he's throwing a 50. 50 ball to Kittle. That's more like 3070. But they're winning. [00:41:29] Speaker A: Throwing him the Jennings, too. They got. They got angry hands. [00:41:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I believe the official term is arrogant hands. I. I like either one. [00:41:38] Speaker A: Is that. Is that official from the Niners? [00:41:39] Speaker B: Who's that official from football? [00:41:41] Speaker A: Twitter. [00:41:42] Speaker B: Arrogant hands is the terminology. [00:41:44] Speaker A: I don't think anything's official on football Twitter. [00:41:46] Speaker B: Do we want to. I think angry hands for Juwan Jennings is more appropriate. [00:41:50] Speaker A: He'll throw hands, that's for sure. At a football. [00:41:52] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I appreciate him, you know, faking the ball to the fan. There's just. [00:41:58] Speaker A: Don't go full DK Metcalf with the fans. You can have a little. [00:42:01] Speaker B: Did you see that he voided his guarantees on his. No, I didn't. So I. I want to verify one out. [00:42:09] Speaker A: Is that what we're hearing? [00:42:09] Speaker B: I want to verify that that's correct, but I do believe Decalin voided the guarantees on his contract. He went. Which. [00:42:17] Speaker A: Brandon again. [00:42:19] Speaker B: Again. Remember years ago, last two years, where I stated that he was the third worst wide receiver on the Seattle Seahawks? [00:42:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Even. [00:42:29] Speaker B: Even a washed Tyler Lockett I thought was a better wide receiver because dk, sure, the upside's huge, but, like, truly. Truly just is not a reliable wide receiver. [00:42:40] Speaker A: No. Not a reliable guy either. Suspended for two games right in the middle of a playoff hunt. Good job. All right, what else? [00:42:46] Speaker B: Awesome. That the 49ers, like, punched three playoff tickets. Not for themselves. Not. Not even. [00:42:53] Speaker A: How's that. How's that? [00:42:54] Speaker B: They punched, I think, three AFC playoff tickets by knocking the Colts out. Not that the Colts were not. Not knocking the Colts out, but. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [00:43:04] Speaker A: That's interesting. [00:43:05] Speaker B: Yeah. So CBS Sports reported his suspension voids. 45 million in guaranteed money, perhaps more. And I think there is like a. If they choose if. Okay. It says under his contract. It also puts another 26 and a half million at risk and avoid. Yeah. So lots of money. Lots of money. [00:43:28] Speaker A: Man with the blue hair had said something. And DK Metcalf is going to be 40, 46 million dollars poor. [00:43:35] Speaker B: Because, I mean, I'm sorry. Like, I don't care what. What someone says. Like, you just gotta know better. [00:43:40] Speaker A: Like, even if the fan punch me for 46 million, I'm sure he deserved. [00:43:44] Speaker B: To get punched, but, like. Yeah, I'm sure, buddy, you gotta watch. [00:43:48] Speaker A: The bag there sometimes. We deserve to get punched. That doesn't mean you should. [00:43:51] Speaker B: Most people at some point or another deserve to get punched. I think that's the nature of being alive as a person. [00:43:57] Speaker A: Well, Juwan Jennings knows all about that. He got punched right in the nards and he's. And he's been an elite receiver ever since. Is that. Is that the tide? The turn. He got punched in the nards, and then that was his hero origin story. [00:44:11] Speaker B: Something like that. [00:44:12] Speaker A: If they Win the Super bowl and Juwan Jennings is the mvp, as he should have been the last time around. You know, I'm writing that column. You know that I'm going to say that all he needed was a wake up call from a punch in the. [00:44:24] Speaker B: Nards and he got, he, he surely woke up. [00:44:26] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:44:27] Speaker B: I saw, I saw a clip that was like Pat Certain and other people talking. He's talking to like Richard Sherman and they're like, so none of us are wearing cups, right? Just free ball. Which is, is how I found out that if you get punched in the nuts, you're getting punched in the nuts. [00:44:44] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. No, no one's, no one's wearing a cup on a football. They're barely wearing pads anymore. I mean, they wear shoulder pads and helmets. But like, I mean, has anyone worn a knee pad in the NFL in like 10 years? Have you seen some of these kicker pants? [00:44:59] Speaker B: No, but they do have, like the cool thigh pads that have their number pads embossed in them. [00:45:05] Speaker A: But like, but like Saquon Barkley wears the thigh pads that I wore, which are, you know, that thick and it's got the number embossed on it and it looks weird. It looks like he has like an implant somewhere, which, you know. Yeah, big quads to begin with. Everyone else is just out there wearing, you know, teenage padded bra. [00:45:23] Speaker B: Yeah. I have no comment. I have no transition other than that. I do. Did want to. Before we get to comments, I did want to give dieter about a 2, 2 minute ISO period. Just. [00:45:35] Speaker A: Why should the Kansas City Chiefs and Clark Hunt, their very punchable owner, not take free money? It's free real estate. [00:45:43] Speaker B: I just want, I just wanted to hear your thoughts on. Not even just on that, just on, on that organization and that owner, because you've, you've been about those parts. [00:45:54] Speaker A: Broke boy. That's my, that's my general thoughts. Broke boy. And the problem is he can't even be the good kind of broke boy, where obviously he's not broke and he lives a lifestyle that personally shows that he's not broke. But heaven forbid he actually invests in his company. And you know, say what you will about, like Joe Lacob, like, at least Joe Lakob does invest in the Warriors. Like, at least he's, you know, buying a wnba. Like, they're, they're pushing it forward. They're, they're doing business. Clark Hunt's general stance, and this is perhaps a classic case of I didn't build it, I inherited it syndrome, but he's just holding on for dear life. And it's like, dude, you get the Chiefs. My entire life up until, well, they got my homes and they were just seven and nine. I mean, I grew up on the Marty Schottenheimer Chiefs with, with Derek Thomas and Priest home. Like, I grew up on the seven and nine Chiefs. Those, those are the Kansas Chiefs. I knew sick players, though. Sick players, sick players. Never could actually formulate a sick team. Like, I thought Rich Gannon was really good before Rich Gannon was really good. That's. That's Elvis Gerbach. I might have had an Elvis Gerbach jersey back in the day. So the Chiefs were always a poverty franchise. And they were a poverty franchise when they hired Andy Reid. Right? It's just, oh, the Eagles fired him, let's go get them. That's the best coach we could possibly ever get. And they lucked into Patrick Mahomes. I'll say they lucked into it because he was the first successful air Raid quarterback. No one had ever been successful. Reed was on his last straws in Kansas City already. They draft him on a whim, effectively. And it just so happens that they had a great front office and a great head coach who was willing to throw caution to the wind. They hit big on a, you know, third round tight end that was a quarterback. And it's just, they lucked into so much of this, and maybe I'm pulling it back to the Warriors. So it's like you luck into Steph Curry, you buy Steph Curry, like, and. [00:48:06] Speaker B: You look into the fact that his ankles don't become a career ending situation 100%. [00:48:11] Speaker A: Just like, you know, the Bucks owners luck into Giannis. Like, it's every, every part of this is luck. [00:48:16] Speaker B: By the way, I was in on Giannis. [00:48:18] Speaker A: Well, I mean, I'm not saying that you weren't taking 19th overall, and then he develops into this thing and now you have a brand new building in Milwaukee and franchise values are X, Y and Z. And it's like all of this is lucky. And as an owner, it's particularly luck because you're not actually making the call on who to draft or who you know. And your only responsibility is the owner of a football team is when you get lucky. And these leagues are built so that every now and again you get lucky. Unless you're the jets, you. You take advantage and you roll your luck forward. You keep betting. And instead Clark Hunt, his entire existence is, no, I'm going to go home with my chips. I'm, I'm going to, I'm Going to keep this money and he could have built a stadium anywhere he wanted with free land. And instead, what he decided to do with his copious free time, instead of, you know, buying off Santa Clara councilman, he decided to pit Missouri and Kansas against each other to see who would give him more free money. And he's getting $1.8 billion for a $3 billion stadium, which, by the way, broke ass stadium. Sofi cost seven. He's. I'll do three. You know, how'd that work out for the Niners with their stadium that they didn't pay for? It looks like. So I just. It's such a bad precedent for the NFL when the two best stadiums in the league were paid for in full by the owners of the teams. Those are the two best stadiums in the league. I would have no problem if you said the three or, you know, the two major events just alternate between Dallas and Los Angeles. [00:49:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:00] Speaker A: You know, Atlanta for. For all of the free money they got, they at least paid it forward in a very trivial way. But at least they were like conciliatory about it. And, oh, we'll have really cheap concessions and stuff and like a bunch of, you know, really cheap tickets as to pay it back. It will never add up to billions. Right. Rotate those three, I guess. Miami, they did private funding too, for Hard Rock, but you were kind of just putting lipstick on a pig there. It's all to say, you know, and they'll give them some super bowl in Overland park, fucking Kansas, or in Olathe, Kansas. And it's like, dude, I have family that lives around there. Like, it's not fucking brutal. It's fucking brutal. Awful. Meanwhile, by the way, the Bears, who are run by Kevin Warren, former Big Ten commissioner, who is every day trying to prove that he actually does not know where his begins and his belly button ends. I mean, just like legitimately bolting it up on a day to day basis in incredible ways. I mean, Dave Cavill couldn't even imagine. [00:51:01] Speaker B: Oh, man. Remember when we played golf with him? [00:51:04] Speaker A: Yes, yes, I do. Weird day. [00:51:07] Speaker B: It was a strange day, by the. [00:51:08] Speaker A: Way, played out of my goddamn gourd. I shot like an unfortunate. [00:51:11] Speaker B: Unfortunately, that's your good luck charm. You were. [00:51:13] Speaker A: That's my. I needed to be. I needed to piss out there by one person that I genuinely loathe. So. Mike Birdie. I need the adversity. But meanwhile, the Bears are out here and they're, they're pitting Chicago against the suburbs. But neither Chicago nor the suburbs are all that interested in actually ponying up the money. So now he's like, oh, I might move our team. We could be Indiana's second fucking team. Right? Move to northwest Indiana. The Chicago Bears will be in Northwest Indiana. Shireville, Indiana, because that state will give us free money because we asked for it. Meanwhile, you know, good luck getting food stamps or something. It's all just a goddamn crock of shit. And I think that all of these owners should get their comeuppance. [00:52:01] Speaker B: Well said. Well said. I'm looking forward to the TO again when super bowl happens and many people fly in and go, oh, I've been. I've been meaning to get out to San Francisco and. [00:52:17] Speaker A: No, I mean, dude, that bus. The first go around. The first. [00:52:23] Speaker B: Was it. Was that the championship game of Alabama? [00:52:26] Speaker A: Oh, no, no, the championship game was. It was Clemson. And I cannot remember who they played, but Dabo Sweeney, first off, the stadium was not full. And Dabo is like, you know, it's tough to come out here to wherever the hell we are. They just won. You know, a place that doesn't care, but, like, we still care. It's like, oh, my God. So they're never getting one of those again. By the way. No one else bid for this Super Bowl. And, yeah, we're gonna have to do the. It's actually not anywhere near San Francisco thing. That's fine. Maybe they'll figure out the bus down situation from San Francisco. This go around, I'm taking the goddamn train. If I go to the game at all. And suffice it to say, I, you know, I don't think that they've actually done the things that they need to do to make that stadium super bowl ready. Like, it's still rusted. When you look at it from the practice facility, there's just rust stains on the white. [00:53:20] Speaker B: Yeah, but it's good rust. It's good rust. It's the sort of rust where it gets stronger. You know how that works? [00:53:25] Speaker A: Like Camden Yards. It's rustic now. [00:53:27] Speaker B: Yeah. By the way, so does this team go to the Super Bowl? [00:53:32] Speaker A: I mean, I. [00:53:33] Speaker B: Listen, I mean, that's the question that I was asking earlier. That. It's like, you watch them in games like this where they basically say, our defense. Yeah, we don't need a defense. [00:53:43] Speaker A: Kinda. [00:53:44] Speaker B: I mean, they kind of do. They kind of just need a couple plays here and there, which I. I think this defense is capable of that. Of a couple plays here or there. [00:53:52] Speaker A: I think they proved it tonight. I think that this. They might have everything that they need. What they can't do is have any sputtering whatsoever of their offense, right? And they cannot have a game in which they're not plucky and opportunistic. Like, they needed both turnovers tonight and they needed them at the exact time they got them because they played with a possession advantage for most of the game. And that mattered because then the Colts were constantly trailing and it allowed the Niners to be in better situations, at least to call defenses. And then they, they get the, the game winning pick. I mean, it was a two touchdown game. And after that interception, you're thinking like, oh fuck, if the Niners just go three and out once, you're going to lose. Like, so yeah, they kind of need a defense. But here's the thing. Like, that game was just generally weird. We were in the Torbert zone. They had Philip Rivers out here, just backyard football in it, and, you know, all the credit in the world to him. I got to put some egg on my face for thinking, you know, all the things that I said were true but also fundamentally false. And I think this Bears game is going to tell us what we need to know because Ben Johnson is going to be able to dial up in a more precise and efficient way exactly what he thinks the 49ers weaknesses are. And he'll just attack them relentlessly again and again and again. And if Ben Johnson can put together a 40 point offensive performance with Caleb Williams, which I think is easier said than done because I don't think highly of Caleb Williams at all and I think less of him after that game against the packers, despite everyone being, oh, what a throw. Yeah, but what about that throwaway for intentional grounding that nearly put him out of field goal range late in the fourth quarter when he just panicked after a half second and threw the ball into the stands as they were in field goal range, it's like one of the dumbest plays I've ever seen on primetime television. But it's totally washed away because they got a single high look and he hit a really nice deep throw against the wind. Like it was a great throw, but as a situational quarterback, he's woeful. They needed a miracle to win that game against a Packers team that was down their two best defensive players and their quarterback. So, you know, maybe I'm not that in on Caleb Williams. That said he could put up 40 against this niners defense. And if he does, then the book is going to be out and everyone's just going to read from that. [00:56:07] Speaker B: I mean, that's a team that's going to take shots, and they will not have great answers. [00:56:13] Speaker A: But. But here's the thing. I can't tell you right now, Jake, that the Niners won't have a good defensive performance in that game. [00:56:19] Speaker B: No, I can't tell you anything. I mean, the Bears are chaos merchants. [00:56:23] Speaker A: Yep. [00:56:23] Speaker B: The 49ers are gonna put up points. I mean, I would bet. I would bet the total for that game is in the 60s, I think. I mean, maybe that's pain, but, like. [00:56:34] Speaker A: No. Yeah. We've been talking about that game as the Big 12 shootout. I just thought it was crazy that we had it this week, too, and we might have it against Seattle, too. [00:56:41] Speaker B: I appreciate. I appreciate Dee Winters saying that we weren't crazy, essentially, that it went exactly the opposite. [00:56:48] Speaker A: No, they watched Philip Rivers and they said, oh, they're not going to do anything with that guy. And then Philip Rivers, like, you. Y' all want to flicking bet. [00:56:56] Speaker B: I can't imagine what his shoulder feels like. [00:56:59] Speaker A: And you could tell his arm was getting more tired as the game went along. It's like, no, duh, dude. Also, it's like when you go up. [00:57:07] Speaker B: To, like, three to a fast pitch and you don't warm up and you go, oh, shit. I might. [00:57:12] Speaker A: I might. I mean, I. I tore my rotator stuff in high school and. And never got it repaired. And I remember I was. I was. Buddy who works for the Colts now, actually came out to visit me in Miami when I lived down there. And he's like, you want to play Wiffle ball? And I'm like, fuck, yeah, let's play Wiffle ball. We're like 25 years old, and I used to be a mean wiffle ball pitcher because my arm was complete junk, and so I could just do weird stuff to it. And I. There was a point, like 20 minutes in where. Where that thing just. I was throwing 30 miles. It was nothing. Just absolutely gone. I've never gotten the velocity back since then. It's just totally cashed. That was Philip Rivers tonight. In, like, the third and the fourth quarter, he's just like, oh, fuck, that's really far, isn't it? [00:57:53] Speaker B: I do want to mention something that I don't think we talked about. Just. So what's really interesting is if the 49ers get the 1 seed, there's like, a route where that could be worse for them. Oh, because it gets receded, Right? [00:58:11] Speaker A: You always get the lowest seed. [00:58:13] Speaker B: So if. So there's a route where. So let's say round one, it's the Bears Versus like maybe the packers or the Lions. Whatever. If you get one of those two. [00:58:30] Speaker A: Teams, Lions are out. [00:58:31] Speaker B: Yeah, our lines are out. But if you get like the Packers. Okay, that's. You can beat the Packers. Yeah. But like, if it's not them and the Bears were to win, you get the Rams or the Seahawks. [00:58:44] Speaker A: That's right. You could probably argument that two of the three teams that are wild cards are better than. [00:58:52] Speaker B: Right. [00:58:52] Speaker A: Whereas if south, the winner of the east with the Eagle. I just don't trust the Eagles. [00:58:56] Speaker B: Whereas if you're five or six, you end up facing the Eagles or either the Panthers or the Bucks. The Panthers of the Bucks, essentially. [00:59:05] Speaker A: The tricky part is I ran. I ran this. I don't have an exact number, but in effect, if the Niners don't get the one seed, they're going to get the six seed. Like, that is in likelihood what happens because the packers have lost twice now. [00:59:16] Speaker B: Since that makes sense. [00:59:18] Speaker A: And so the six seed is actually not. That's Philadelphia. So. [00:59:23] Speaker B: Right. So they would face the Bears. Most likely. [00:59:26] Speaker A: Ooh, depends on what happens in that game. [00:59:29] Speaker B: Right. Right. [00:59:29] Speaker A: But yes, they'll play either. They'll play the. Yeah, they'll play the Bears or who I think are. They're the presumed winners of the NFC North. Right. [00:59:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:39] Speaker A: And then they'll. Or the Eagles, Whereas the five seed, which I guess in this case would be the Rams, because Seattle would take the one seed with the NFC west, depending, of course, on what happens with Seattle next week. They would get Carolina and then in a receding. [00:59:57] Speaker B: I. Yeah. [00:59:58] Speaker A: Probably get the Bears. [00:59:59] Speaker B: I think. I think the reality is they will take the buy over any. [01:00:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:06] Speaker B: Scenario and home games. Fewer and just fewer games. Fewer games. [01:00:12] Speaker A: Super bowl without a buy. [01:00:14] Speaker B: So it's insane that, like, it went from this, like, outlandish scenario to really, like, now. They could do it. [01:00:22] Speaker A: They're in full control now. Does that mean anything with this football team? Probably not, no. [01:00:29] Speaker B: It does feel like it. Okay. I'm not gonna. [01:00:32] Speaker A: Five straight games, and I don't think anyone's confident that they're gonna win another one. [01:00:35] Speaker B: Not gonna go tinfoil hat. [01:00:37] Speaker A: But like, it's. [01:00:38] Speaker B: It's in the NFL's best interest for this thing to go to week 18 for the number one seed. [01:00:43] Speaker A: Yes. I. And. And in fact, I'm not quite sure of the scenario at hand. Well, I guess. Yeah. The Bears for the one seed seed. If the Bears would hold the one seed for the time being. [01:00:56] Speaker B: Or they would be. I mean, I don't know that the Bears Niners. I mean, I think if the Seahawks win this week, I don't think the Bears can get the one seat. [01:01:04] Speaker A: I don't know. [01:01:04] Speaker B: I don't know. [01:01:04] Speaker A: Seahawks and bears for the 1 seed in week 18. [01:01:07] Speaker B: Right. [01:01:07] Speaker A: The Niners will be fighting for the 7 or the 6, I think would be the argument. [01:01:13] Speaker B: Sure. [01:01:13] Speaker A: Then it gets into tiebreakers with the Rams. [01:01:15] Speaker B: Whatever. [01:01:17] Speaker A: Yeah, basically. And it won't. It won't get flexed until after next week, I think. [01:01:26] Speaker B: Yeah, they'll. [01:01:28] Speaker A: They'll flex it like before Sunday Night Football. They'll flex all those games. [01:01:33] Speaker B: I know. Yeah. I'm gonna be. Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna have to. [01:01:36] Speaker A: I do think they have to say which teams are playing on the Saturday, though, because there will be some Saturday games. [01:01:43] Speaker B: Right? It's on. Yeah. What? So they. It'd be on the 4th, correct. [01:01:48] Speaker A: Sunday's the 4th. [01:01:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:50] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, it's just a question on if it's the fourth or the third. Right. If it's a Fox game of the week. Because it doesn't. It just is. Two playoff teams going at it and the Seahawks can get the one seed or if it's. If it's Sunday Night Football with everything on the line, a la 2019. The other thing, too, is I think Tampa Bay and Carolina play again in week 18. [01:02:10] Speaker B: Right. [01:02:11] Speaker A: So Tampa Bay, who's just going. It might not matter. But another. Another factor to put into play there. I think there's also a Ravens Pittsburgh game in Week 18 as well. [01:02:22] Speaker B: I'm almost certain there is. [01:02:23] Speaker A: So there's competition, but I think that everybody in the national media space wants Niners and Seahawks, because as weird as this sounds like Niners, obviously huge brand, but Seahawks have a. It's a very alluring brand. I think people get a kick out of the Seahawks because no one's. [01:02:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:39] Speaker A: With any new pop culture references since. [01:02:41] Speaker B: About 2015, this feels like an incredibly wide open year. I mean, coming out of the afc, there's not much I trust. Like, I think the Jaguars are spicy, but I don't trust anything about them. You shouldn't. I still don't trust the Chargers as much as I think Herbert's slinging it. And I love Harbaugh, but, like, you should. [01:03:02] Speaker A: It's so funny. You watch the Chargers and you're like, oh, they're not going to make the playoffs this year. Like, you watch them and you get the vibe that. And then they win and. And they're like 10 and 4, and you're like, man, what a lost year for the Chargers. [01:03:13] Speaker B: And it's like the Patriots feel like they're a year too early regardless of where they are. Don't trust that big paper. The Broncos defense is so good and they have home field. If they clinch home field that, like I can, I can see them making it, but like, I don't trust Bo Nix and what's going on there. [01:03:32] Speaker A: It does feel like a mile high and kick their ass. [01:03:35] Speaker B: It feels like the big Bills, like Josh Allen without having to face Mahomes in the playoffs. After a season where he kind of looks like. And everyone goes, is he phoning it in? I mean, if I'm going to bet on one team just based on a quarterback, like, that's the only team I kind of feel good about. [01:03:53] Speaker A: But if we come back, I mean, it will go to the cowherd principle of its quarterbacks and head coaches where it's his overly simple. [01:03:59] Speaker B: Although I'm not sure I can name half of the receiving core. [01:04:02] Speaker A: That's my. That's what I'm saying. Like, it's, it's, it's Khalil Shakir and three white guy tight ends that look all the same. Josh Palmer's not it. They got some guy. What's name. [01:04:16] Speaker B: Shavers. [01:04:16] Speaker A: Shavers. [01:04:17] Speaker B: People like the ghost of Brandon Cooks and Gabe Davis. Nicole Hardman. It's never a good sign. [01:04:24] Speaker A: It's just like, it's just. It's James Cook. Yeah. Dion Dawkins, who's the only viable offensive lineman still left there. And then like, by the way, their defense is. You think the Niners defense. Okay, how about this? Here it is. If you're in on the Bills, you have to be in on the Niners. [01:04:41] Speaker B: I kind of agree. [01:04:43] Speaker A: So if you're in on the Bills and you're going to make the argument for the Bills, I'll hear you out. It's wide open. They have Josh Allen, but it's like Josh Allen, James Cook, one great left tackle. And I'm looking at the Niners and I'm like, okay, well, Brock Purdy's not Josh Allen, but like, certainly his weapons are better than right. James Cook, Christian McCaffrey. I'll take McCaffrey every day. Even though Cook was very, very good. Yeah. And Williams, Dion Dawkins. I'm taking Trent. They have a better offensive line on the hole. And then the other, like Jennings, Pierce, all. Even demarcus Robinson. I'd take all of those guys over anybody that, that they're putting out there. Kittle over all those tight ends. Hell, Ross Dwelly over two of them. And then you look at the defense and you're like, yeah, pretty much the samesies. [01:05:24] Speaker B: Also, watch out for Houston. [01:05:26] Speaker A: It might be Houston. It really might be there. [01:05:29] Speaker B: Houston's gonna win whatever. Whatever game they have. Whatever game they have, Round one, they're gonna win. That's just. [01:05:35] Speaker A: I'll also tell you something about Houston. That game is going to be the first one on Saturday. The Classic Houston Texas Memorial. [01:05:42] Speaker B: Houston. Houston. Over. Over. The Patriots. I would slam Houston. [01:05:47] Speaker A: Is that a possibility? I'm pretty sure it is. [01:05:50] Speaker B: It is. I mean, right now the Patriots are the two seed. Texans are currently looking at the seven. [01:05:55] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Yeah, Easy money. Yeah, easy money. Yeah, that's. [01:06:02] Speaker B: I'd be. I would be all over that real quick before we get to comments like, sure, what's. What's your super bowl pick today? Right now. I can give you mine if you need a sec. [01:06:24] Speaker A: Texans. Rams. [01:06:26] Speaker B: I was going to go Rams, Broncos. [01:06:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I buy that. I think the Broncos and the Rams are the only two teams that can make the argument on their best day. They have two top five units. [01:06:34] Speaker B: I think the Broncos having home, if they clinch home field advantage throughout the playoffs is a fucking nightmare. Just with that defense and the devil magic that they play with. And Sean Payton, probably. [01:06:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:48] Speaker B: Hey, you know, hey, I don't have to say it. [01:06:50] Speaker A: He's got a bounty on you. [01:06:51] Speaker B: He takes football seriously. [01:06:53] Speaker A: Can I. Kevin James played him in a movie once. It's. I watched that movie. It was awful. Can I give you the cursed super bowl possibility? [01:07:05] Speaker B: Yeah, I love it. [01:07:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:07:07] Speaker B: The worst possible one. [01:07:08] Speaker A: The worst possible Super Bowl. The worst possible one. Okay. [01:07:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:12] Speaker A: Possible. Okay. The worst possible one, unquestionably, is Eagles. Jaguars. [01:07:20] Speaker B: Okay. I was. [01:07:20] Speaker A: Yeah, Plausible, possible and totally cursed. [01:07:24] Speaker B: I was gonna say. I was gonna say Eagles. Bears. But the Bears have like such a. [01:07:28] Speaker A: Feel good element play in the same conference, which would make it really difficult. [01:07:31] Speaker B: No, sorry. Jaguars. Bears. [01:07:32] Speaker A: I meant Jaguars, Bears. [01:07:34] Speaker B: Jaguars are clearly. Clearly the worst vibes. Whatever. [01:07:36] Speaker A: Obviously. [01:07:37] Speaker B: No question. Yeah, but the Eagles too. Just because he'd be like, how the Eagles get here. God damn it. [01:07:45] Speaker A: Yeah, I think that's the work. Here's the thing. Everyone bitched and complained about Patrick moans. And I get it, right? No one likes the constant winners they are. I can at least I can openly miss hella annoying. Like, they're hella annoying. And the ref stuff is ridiculous. Like, I don't buy into any of the ref stuff. They're hella annoying, though. Kelsey's annoying. Mahomes is Annoying, stupid voice. Like, they're annoying. Yeah. They're a great football team. They're very well coached. Like I can appreciate it with the sound off, but they're hella annoying. The Eagles are even more annoying if the Eagles just take up the mantle as the team that's always there. Like, what a downgrade. Because at least the Chiefs when they're firing kick ass. At least they're fun as to watch when they're. [01:08:28] Speaker B: And you know, there's an inevitability where you're sort of the whole time like, oh, at some point this is going to happen. [01:08:35] Speaker A: Right. And they can do it in cool ways and they make cool plays and the Eagles are just, everyone hates each other. They're, they're playing out of spite and hatred and there's no joy in Mudville and their coach headset isn't plugged in and it's just they have a. Every inflatable ocean bunny. It's bad. [01:08:57] Speaker B: Every time they've been on my tv, I've actually been borderline nauseous. I've been upset, genuinely. I can't like I haven't been able to watch them. It's. Yeah, it sucks the life out of. [01:09:10] Speaker A: You know, they also throw. You know, here's. I get to watch the Washington Commanders again because always thought that they were gonna run that. [01:09:16] Speaker B: It's always the slowest, sloppy. There's always penalties and sideline guard. [01:09:22] Speaker A: You're like, I gotta throw this out. Okay. I, I. There were a lot of national TV games this week. There's going to be even more moving forward. [01:09:30] Speaker B: Yep. [01:09:30] Speaker A: So Saturday night it's Burkhart and Brady, Bears and Packers. Okay. I got the game on. I'm kind of in and out. I ended up re watching the end of it to understood what happened. But I had seen, you know, they do these year end sports media of the person. You know, I think Pablo Tori cleaned up with most people. Yes. But Richard Deitch Daish, the sports media. [01:09:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:56] Speaker A: Who lives in Canada. He's the sports media columnist for the Athletic. He and I are mortal enemies. [01:10:05] Speaker B: By the way, covering sports media. So bizarre. Anyway, continue. [01:10:08] Speaker A: Yeah, shout out Steve Berman. But it's. He had he made the case that Tom Brady has gotten so good at announcing that he should be the sports media person of the year. Meanwhile. And then I'm like, okay, well, I actually haven't like listened to too much Tom Brady this year. Like maybe he has gotten better. And I think Kevin Burkhart is like one of the great dudes of all time. And is doing his best. And I listen to that bear. And here's what Tom Brady does. It's not just kb, kb, what he does. He's clearly just watching the monitor and then viscerally spews out whatever he sees. It's unbelievable. It's as if you drop someone who had never done broadcast. The whole point is that you're a soundtrack over the action. And meanwhile, he's like, oh, Ben Johnson. Oh, yeah, Floor. You just listen to it. It's unbelievable. It's as if you dropped in my dad. [01:11:09] Speaker B: But if he's like, these guys, these guys. [01:11:11] Speaker A: Kb. I've never seen an announcer just say what they're seeing. It was. It's like the. The Rorschach test or whatever that. That test they gave to Trump where it's like, memorize these five things and you have to repeat them. It's just like Ben Johnson, Matt Le. Oh, Jordan Love. He just says whatever pops up on the screen. And he'll have a thought and he'll interrupt his own thoughts to say whatever popped up on the screen. But that's rich. Not just sports broadcaster of the year. [01:11:40] Speaker B: It's a weird industry. [01:11:42] Speaker A: Lives on. [01:11:43] Speaker B: We're overdue to hit some Comments first, Tony. C.J. c.J. West, baby. [01:11:50] Speaker A: Should I have just repurposed the we have the beef probably thumbnail for this? [01:11:56] Speaker B: I mean, the emotion I felt. I don't think people. And maybe I just wasn't even up, but like, I don't think people understood that CJ Western not only split a double team, he took a double team with him into. Into Philip Rivers and then sacked it. [01:12:13] Speaker A: It was awesome. It's awesome. He's our beautiful wide deep. [01:12:17] Speaker B: And you saw the hands, like, starting to work. Like, he's. [01:12:20] Speaker A: He's really coming along. [01:12:21] Speaker B: He was getting pushed. Like on the Alfred Collins strip. Sack too. He was getting push, man. That's. I need John Gruden to break that. [01:12:30] Speaker A: Down because who got me feeling nicey. [01:12:35] Speaker B: Then he does the bark at the end. That was good. We have both watched more John Gruden content than we can ever tell the people in our lives about. [01:12:45] Speaker A: 53 Orlando, right? 53 Orlando, right? Break that down for me. For you. [01:12:53] Speaker B: Oh, Vice. People say Purdy's in. Josh Allen. Like, it's a slight against Purdy, but is Allen throwing this many touchdowns a game? Maybe you haven't seen the numbers. A few things. Allen doesn't have the weapons, doesn't have the coordination. [01:13:08] Speaker A: He's. He's just. He's just. He is in the schoolyard. And he got put on the. The remedial team and he is just dragging him along. This is Cam Newton at Auburn. [01:13:17] Speaker B: Right. It's also. It's also two fundamentally different styles of quarterbacks. Purdy will never have the physical talent attributes, any of the stuff Allen can do, and no one should pretend he can. But they're both sick in. In different ways. Jose Martinez, if we had Bosa, Williams and Fred, we'd be the favorites by far. It is. It is wild. Like it. I. I think I would really expect them to win the super bowl if they had those guys. Even one. Even one of them. [01:13:46] Speaker A: Let me be very clear about this. There is no better bet for the 20, 26 Super Bowl. And I'm not talking about the upcoming one. I'm talking about. I don't know where it is next year than the San Francisco 49ers. This is their gap year. They're 11 and four with a shot at the one seed. [01:14:03] Speaker B: But does it hurt? I mean, there's. There's an argument that because they've been so ailed, it actually doesn't matter if they get through the playoffs and they have that short off season. But like McCaffrey and Trent, like having to go through the playoffs, you could argue it's a real problem. [01:14:21] Speaker A: I think you're willing to take the risk. [01:14:24] Speaker B: Yep. [01:14:26] Speaker A: There's a valid point. Jordan James, activated today. Why? No one quite knows. [01:14:30] Speaker B: No idea. All right, some other comments we got here. Someone said, jake, don't eat rocks. First of all, I'll do what I like. [01:14:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I told them to. [01:14:41] Speaker B: I should tell you, growing up, one of my. Not my first memories, but you know those embedded memories where because you heard it from your parents, you create one. There's like a photo. I was an enormously fat baby. Hard to believe, but I was. There's a photo of me just with a Snapple cap eating sand on Baker beach. When I visited San Francisco. Before I lived out here. [01:15:05] Speaker A: Been there. [01:15:05] Speaker B: And I was. I was so fat that I kept eating sand. And my parents said, stop, but I saw them laughing, so I kept eating sand. Yep. And I feel like that says a lot about my personality. [01:15:14] Speaker A: Is it really taps, you know, something. [01:15:16] Speaker B: You know, I'll. I'll keep eating that sand, folks. I'll keep eating that sand for you. [01:15:20] Speaker A: You can kick sand. Jake's gonna keep eating sand. [01:15:23] Speaker B: That's right. Jim Jablowski. They missed Renardo Green out there. Certainly did. Certainly did. [01:15:30] Speaker A: Yeah. The restraining order. Wasn't getting it done today. That's oh, that's what I call Daryl Luder. He's the. [01:15:36] Speaker B: Yeah, you should clarify that. It's. It's funny to go from, by the way. All right. Speaking of food, this one guy was commenting earlier. I can't tell if it's a bit. [01:15:50] Speaker A: Sponsored by tasty cakes. I mean, if they looked at my figure and went, oh, they'll like this. [01:15:54] Speaker B: No, I saw in the comments a guy's like, really love the show, but can you stop with the tasty cake ads? [01:16:00] Speaker A: Huh? [01:16:00] Speaker B: I'm getting a ton of them, and I think, buddy, that's you. [01:16:04] Speaker A: I. Yeah, I can't control your cookies or your tasty cakes. [01:16:09] Speaker B: Well, don't talk about a man's tasty cakes. Moving on. [01:16:15] Speaker A: Jennings said, is that the thing you should never tell? [01:16:17] Speaker B: That's probably what he. That's probably what got Shelby Harris Tasty Cakes. Oh, man. Good question from Ryan Jones. Why did this. The Steelers trade one crazy wide receiver to get another one? You could argue that. I mean, not even argue. They did get the worst crazy receiver out of the deal. But I think there was an element of. They were both. They were all tired of each other, and so they went, all right, let's. [01:16:41] Speaker A: Don't worry. Brandon Iuk is next in line. [01:16:44] Speaker B: Man, it's a sad state of affairs. Let's. We don't have to talk about it. But I don't know what's going on over there. [01:16:49] Speaker A: I just think it's loser behavior. [01:16:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:52] Speaker A: Like, I hope that he's doing well. He's clearly not doing great. [01:16:56] Speaker B: I hope he's doing okay. It's. But anytime you're taking. Anytime you're taking a video, driving by the facility, regardless of that, that's like. [01:17:04] Speaker A: That's like driving past your old girlfriend's house to see if she notices you. It's just loser behavior. Like, what. What. What. What kind of attention is that going to bring you? Like, what are you. [01:17:15] Speaker B: You got to go analog at that point, brother. Like, go. I know. Yeah. [01:17:19] Speaker A: You have tens of millions of dollars. The weather in the Bay Area has sucked a fat one. Like, what are you doing here? You're not using the Niners as your rehab. You know, you're not checking in. They haven't seen you in more than a month. What are you doing here? Go anywhere else. Get away. [01:17:35] Speaker B: There's. Yeah, go. Go on a trip. [01:17:38] Speaker A: I mean. [01:17:38] Speaker B: Yeah, listen, as much as everyone rightly made fun of Aaron Rodgers, like, you could probably benefit from. From pure darkness for a couple days. [01:17:47] Speaker A: And just logging off, by the way, responding to the question about the Steelers wide receivers. You know, sometimes people have a type and sometimes that type isn't good for them, but they just. They can't break it. I've gone from, you know, I eventually broke it, but I've gone from. [01:18:05] Speaker B: Won't stop them from having a winning record, though. [01:18:08] Speaker A: No, no, nothing will. Mike Tomlin will always get those nine wins. But, you know, sometimes you break up with your a little bit unhinged girlfriend. You go to another slightly unhinged girlfriend and eventually you get better. But it's going to be a while because you got to type and there's something about. You're addicted to the cat. I don't know. I should have talked about this with the therapist about 15 years ago. [01:18:29] Speaker B: Probably should have again. Similar thing, mashed eggs. Bittersweet game. You know, if there's early season injuries don't happen. This team likely curb stomps the whole NFC to Super Bowl. I really. Yeah, it's likely. [01:18:41] Speaker A: How would their power of friendship congealed into the way it has now? [01:18:45] Speaker B: Would have had dumber losses. They would have had dumber losses midway through the season. That Browns game that I predicted, I, I think that would have happened. [01:18:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. It wouldn't be so obvious what their flaws were. They would just show up at really inopportune times and we would sound like for bringing them up. And then it would show up in the playoffs and you'd be like, what? And this time when they lose in the playoffs, this is great because everyone's expectations stay low even when they win. They've won five straight games and we're even like, hey, I don't know if they. [01:19:12] Speaker B: I don't know. The wheels could fall off at any. [01:19:15] Speaker A: At any moment under, you know, over promise, under deliver, under promise, over deliver. Which one do you want to be? I'm going with the latter. [01:19:24] Speaker B: I'm with you. Anything else? I think that's about it for. [01:19:28] Speaker A: No, I'm just going through some. Some really old relationship stuff that had. [01:19:32] Speaker B: That's good for you. You can, you can take it out on that football. [01:19:37] Speaker A: Did you like my prop? It was good for the Eddie Piniero. [01:19:40] Speaker B: It was nice. It was nice. [01:19:42] Speaker A: Hit that thing square. [01:19:43] Speaker B: You can. We can do a video on how you actually mud up a football. [01:19:46] Speaker A: Well, I don't think anyone wants to see that. That would definitely get us demonetized. If you'll excuse me, I'm going to brush my football now. Jake Christmas is on Thursday. [01:19:57] Speaker B: Real quick. Real quick. It's pretty sick. I will say, as a principal, always get. Never get the main guy. Always, always, always get a weird jersey. [01:20:12] Speaker A: I mean, if someone wants to maybe not do 88 and go 99. Now we're talking. [01:20:18] Speaker B: CJ talking. That's a. [01:20:20] Speaker A: Do you think there's anybody in a. With a Mac Jones jersey? [01:20:23] Speaker B: Certainly. 100%. [01:20:25] Speaker A: 808K and BR. Have you seen a Mac Jones jersey in the. In the wild? If you see a Mac Jones jersey in the wild, take a picture and send it to us. [01:20:33] Speaker B: What were you. What were you gonna say about Christmas? [01:20:35] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Christmas is on Thursday. I'm traveling to Florida on tomorrow. [01:20:40] Speaker B: Where? Where in Florida? [01:20:42] Speaker A: Southwest Florida. You'll never find me. I'm on the lam. And that's where all they. [01:20:46] Speaker B: All of the people gonna relive some old memories. [01:20:49] Speaker A: Well, it's the other side. It's the other side of the state. [01:20:51] Speaker B: I mean, this. Yeah. I'm just saying. State of Florida. [01:20:53] Speaker A: It's close enough. Again, we're tapping back into some stuff that I buried deep down. But I don't know when we're going. Probably Wednesday. [01:21:01] Speaker B: We'll find a time. [01:21:02] Speaker A: Maybe Friday. [01:21:04] Speaker B: I'll just be sitting in the dark in a state of suspended animation until we talk. [01:21:08] Speaker A: Okay, Aaron Rodgers, talk then. [01:21:13] Speaker B: See you then, folks. Appreciate you hanging out by.