Episode Transcript
[00:00:07] Speaker A: Dieter and Hutch. You can't kill what's already dead.
Can't do it. They're zombies. You call them a ghost ship, and they are still playing. I. I don't get it. I don't have to get it wild.
[00:00:21] Speaker B: I get it a little bit in that Philly is.
Is kind of. I mean, the 49ers wanted it, and Philly didn't seem to want it at all, you know, And I know that.
[00:00:35] Speaker A: That sounds overly simplistic, but, like, we did talk about this during the week that Philly seemed to hate each other. And why would you want to play another game?
[00:00:44] Speaker B: Not even seem. They do like the broadcast.
Tom Brady, I'll give him some credit. The little holding the ball thing, that was cool. Did a good job with that.
Throwing it in the wind. I like that.
[00:00:59] Speaker A: Okay, cool.
[00:00:59] Speaker B: But, like, the way they just brushed over the fact that Nick Sirianni and A.J. brown are constantly getting in fights on the sidelines, and then the halftime show was like, that seems not ideal. What's going on there.
[00:01:13] Speaker A: First off, you know, you have a problem when Gronk is the one making the most sense of anybody on your payroll. I watched the pregame show a little bit. I was cleaning up my office, and I had the pregame show on, and I'm like, why is Gronk the only one making any sense? And then halftime, postgame, same thing. But it wasn't that Nick Sirianni and A.J. brown were, like, spatting. Nick Sirianni ran the length of the field to yell at AJ Brown for that drop, which then resulted, of course, later on in the game, in another drop. So there two things that stood out during the week when we were watching this film, because we were not two people who spent a lot of time watching the Eagles, because we value our lives and the Eagles do not value our time.
One, as I just said, they seem to all hate each other. And two, Jalen Hurts sucks. I'm. And that was some prime suckage on prime time.
[00:02:07] Speaker B: Eagles fans are notoriously soft. And I don't mean that just because that's an easy target. I mean that because, like, I grew up on the East Coast. And yeah, they're fun fans. They're fun people. They care about their teams.
But, like, you know, they don't really take any Chris. They take it very personally. And so there were some people that were like, how dare you, you know, come with Jalen Hurts? It's like, have you watched him play quarterback? He. And listen, at the end of the game, you know, like his receivers didn't help him. He made a couple really good throws and they dropped them and that's not on him. But a lot of the time as Kyle Shane or not as Kyle Shanahan, as Tom Brady said in the booth, like, he's like the, he's like the pocket was clean and Jalen hurts. He's like, I don't know if he can't see or what, right. He just starts scrambling.
He just has that tendency where he's not comfortable just standing in the pocket and delivering.
The offense is also a mess, which is partially because of him, because he doesn't like to just go. Pure progression. 1, 2, 3. Doesn't like to throw over the middle of the field. He's uncomfortable with it. I like that the last play of the game, fittingly was him throwing over the middle of the field into literal triple coverage rather than taking the one on one shots he loves so much where he might have a chance to win the game to a one on one ball to A.J.
[00:03:22] Speaker A: Brown, only trust Dallas Goddard, which is just a hell of a statement. Good player, terrible blocker.
Let's, let's, let's talk about the 49ers. Victory is what is written by the victors.
They won this game and they won this game through sheer stubbornness, some tactical brilliance and just being some. George Kittle explodes his Achilles tendon and somehow they were the team with the better vibes throughout the contest.
That matters. Especially it's the playoffs. Everyone's injured, everyone's bat battered to hell. No team more so than the Niners, to be fair.
But the attrition rate is a hundred percent at this point. And I think that if I had to maybe take a note, it's ironic in a way, I felt like so much of the other teams so far this postseason have maybe been getting a little bit too cute with it. Like it's the playoffs. This is about buckling down, being pros, taking care of it. And the Niners are like, we have no choice. We have to get cute with it. Here comes Juwan Jennings throwing a pass in 35 mile per hour winds. Hope it works out.
[00:04:31] Speaker B: And it was beautiful. What a catch from McCaffrey, by the way. Also, if Reed Blankenship had dropped even a little bit to make that difficult on McCaffrey is probably a different game. He did not play well in the second half, but yet like Shanahan was dialed in. The run game sucked, but started going a little bit late.
[00:04:50] Speaker A: Guts. They had some real guts to it late. I mean McCaffrey was spinning out of hits left and right in the second half. It was really impressive.
[00:04:57] Speaker B: This whole season is just like them saying, we're dead. We don't care because we're already dead. And it doesn't matter. You can't. You can't hurt us because there's nothing left to lose. And so they just keep trudging. There's, like, a real level of defiance. Yeah. Ners performance this season where we know the season's been over since Nick Bosa. We're like, all right, well, it's just Bosa and then Fred Warner and you go, all right.
And it's been over. It has been over so many times.
Right. It's still going. And as much as, like, there's a lot to analyze and there's a lot that's interesting, there is so much to be said for them just being stubbornly defiant in a way that's not quite quantifiable.
[00:05:42] Speaker A: I mean, I like to bring this up. It's not something that's discussed by anybody other than me. And so clearly, my point is not resonating with the world writ large.
But we don't talk about programs at the NFL level. We don't talk about sort of institutional character at the NFL level. And January football is about institutional character. January football is about who maybe even just going back to the most simple thing that you started the show with, who wants it more, who's willing to sacrifice more, who's tougher mentally and physically to take this game over the top. And the 49ers again, have been dead since maybe even week one when Brock picks up that turf toe injury. They've been scrap. They started Mac Jones in week two, and legitimately, you're like, who knows? Who knows from this point on? And yet they're starting Garrett Wallow and Eric Kendricks at linebacker today, who, by the way, gave the best linebacking performance we've seen from the 49ers in several weeks, if not months.
They're down to just the frame of the car with their defensive line.
They're, you know, thank God Jair Brown got injured, so we got to see Marquis Siegel. I want to put a pin in it and talk about it a little bit later on, but holy crap. And then they're down Pearsall. They'd never had iuk. They lose Kittle. They're using Juwan Jennings as a de facto tight end because someone has to block the edge and ain't going to be Tonjas. They're using demarcus Robinson, a brilliant call from you as a wide receiver. One taking him one on one against Quinyan Mitchell with which didn't work out a couple times but did work out more than it didn't work out. They're using Kyle use check as a primary receiver down the stretch because any open man will do.
[00:07:29] Speaker B: And he's also. He's making like diving catches on every play in tight windows and Brock's like throwing back shoulder because if he doesn't like juice is actually going to take a shot to the face.
[00:07:42] Speaker A: Incredible.
[00:07:43] Speaker B: Incredible.
[00:07:44] Speaker A: They're. They're just, you know, we. I have gotten on Kyle often for his stubbornness and I think we've gotten on Bob lately for his stubbornness or just sort of. It almost felt like resignation. But you know, it wasn't because he's a pretty high octane dude.
[00:07:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:00] Speaker A: So it comes across as stubborn. Their stubbornness won them this game. And by the way, that trickles to Brock Purdy who throws two picks and is still like, we're going for it, baby. Right. Nothing to lose.
[00:08:09] Speaker B: Bad picks like both of them pretty badly ugly.
[00:08:11] Speaker A: The first one even more so than the second one. And the second one was still in defense.
[00:08:16] Speaker B: The first one, which was awesome, where he, Jalen Carter was in his lap and Brady's like maybe a little bit of pressure. It's like he's. Jalen Carter's right there. So like he could throw it, but it's. It's not. I don't think the ball's getting there.
Maybe he could, but then he sort of blindly late throws to Sky Moore, which is never good, particularly against Quinon Mitchell.
[00:08:41] Speaker A: Mitchell's covering Sky Moore and he's like, we're going there.
[00:08:44] Speaker B: Don't go. Look up Richard Sherman on Twitter and talking about Quinion Mitchell. It's insane.
[00:08:49] Speaker A: Quinon Mitchell's a very, very good football player. He was a very, very good football player today. Cooper dejean's a good football player. He got caught a couple times. He made a couple of nice plays. I didn't. I thought that the, the difference in this game.
Well, the guys that I really circled for the Eagles were. Blankenship just didn't like him. You and I disagreed on that a little bit. I just didn't like them.
[00:09:07] Speaker B: Turns out I didn't think he was a great player. I thought he was a good like energy guy, make a spark run play. But I don't. I didn't think he was incredibly well rounded, but he got exposed.
[00:09:16] Speaker A: Okay. Is this a ridiculous statement today? I'M not. And I'm dead serious about this.
Blankenship and Epps did not have a good game for the Eagles. Did the Niners have better safety play, acknowledging that Malik Mustafa was just flailing out there? Did they have better safety?
[00:09:33] Speaker B: Yeah. When it mattered more? Yes. So I would say yes on principle of when it matters more.
Yeah.
[00:09:39] Speaker A: That's fucking wild.
That's insane.
And it wouldn't have happened unless Jair Brown pulls his hammy, like, legitimately. That it is. Let's talk about it now.
What the hell was that guy doing on the bench?
[00:09:55] Speaker B: So it's. So I think their answer, because, again, no one's really asked about it and I haven't been there, is that they're going to say, well, we didn't trust Siegel to just be like a box safety in big nickel, and we thought Jair had earned the starting role and Malik Mustafa is definitely in the starting role. So that's. That's going to be their answer. Which. Okay, sure, yeah. Don't necessarily agree, but Jair has made good plays this season and has warranted playing time. Totally fair.
[00:10:24] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:10:25] Speaker B: Veteran player, too.
Where I don't understand it is that, like, they used demo in a way last year where they put him outside and brought him in at nickel. I would very easily argue you could put Jair Brown in the box in big nickel situations and play Seagull single high, both as a way to maximize everybody's abilities and to get Seagull reps, not just like charity reps, but because Siegel is truly the only free safety. I think that's a very viable way to do it. And if you say that Jair has clearly earned the starting role, I.
I can't fathom why you would say he doesn't deserve. He got 10 defensive reps since week eight after starting early. And, and he did struggle. Like, his ball skills are bad. Like, that's where he got got. But he was in phase. He got beaten clean a couple times, but he was in phase for a lot of that. And then you watch it and you're like, well, J, your Brown's getting beat on the same things. And you watch Siegel and it's like, this is a guy who's fresh, who has juice, who has speed that no other safety has. Like, and it showed up on that deep ball to AJ Brown where I don't think he got a hand on it. But you never see any of their other safeties closing with that ability.
I.
I am.
[00:11:39] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:40] Speaker B: I would like an answer.
[00:11:41] Speaker A: He at least a clear One, he also almost killed Saquon Barkley by putting a helmet right in his hip and that took him out of the game for critical reps. I should actually go back here real fast. I mean, we mentioned why CMC started to get going again. I mean, I don't think that it was entirely. But it had to have had something to do with Jordan Davis leaving the game with an injury. Right. That mattered for the Eagles big time. He's. Their DTS are awesome. Speaking of which, the Niners DTS in this game, not exactly awesome though. CJ had some really nice reps, not much from.
[00:12:14] Speaker B: He also lost quite a few.
[00:12:16] Speaker A: Absolutely.
Yeah.
[00:12:17] Speaker B: I didn't see Alfred Collins doing much.
[00:12:19] Speaker A: Nope.
[00:12:20] Speaker B: If anything, I saw one good rep from Kalia Davis and a bunch of bad stuff from everybody else.
[00:12:26] Speaker A: That wham, block for Kalia Davis. The book is out. Tennessee ran it on him a bunch.
[00:12:31] Speaker B: The amount of times he's 7 yards up field in the wrong direction makes me feel insane.
[00:12:38] Speaker A: So this team makes me feel insane because there's no logical reason that they should still be playing good.
[00:12:44] Speaker B: I mean, they are, but like.
Well, that's the thing is they are, but they just.
This is like a bunch of pieces where you're in Madden and you're like, I refuse to spend a single cent because I'm trying. I'm out of cap space.
[00:12:56] Speaker A: That's called. That's called the Jed York.
[00:12:58] Speaker B: I spent it on a bunch of guys.
So I'm gonna sign every bare minimum player for whatever the minimum is. They're all 67 overall and we'll see what happens.
[00:13:11] Speaker A: Yeah, maybe they got a nice. Maybe they have a sneaky good.
Sneaky good attribute that I can spam.
[00:13:18] Speaker B: It is incredible. Like truly, you go through their depth chart just starting and you're like, all right, well there's Keon White who's played very well, who's a mid season acquisition that everybody ripped on. He's playing great. He's also playing through injury and just.
[00:13:32] Speaker A: And you can seemingly.
[00:13:34] Speaker B: Yeah, so is.
I think Samo still has a lingering thing. He's playing well. He, by the way, was like a waiver acquisition two years ago. Yeah, playing great. And then you've got Jordan Elliott who's like meh. Who's like a semi mid level signing from a couple years ago, Kalia Davis who hadn't played like ever before this season.
And then two rookies and then it's like Clee Farrell and the ghost of Yator Gross. Mattis, that's your. And Bryce Huff too.
[00:14:02] Speaker A: Well, ytor did do a cool thing today where he ripped a dude's stupid.
[00:14:07] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:14:07] Speaker A: Mouthpiece off. That was cool. That was a pretty cool thing. But other than that.
[00:14:10] Speaker B: Ripped it out of his mouth.
[00:14:11] Speaker A: Yeah. And I wish that more people would do that at the collegiate level when they're wearing, like, three mouth guards but not using any of them, but that's.
[00:14:19] Speaker B: Just sticking the one on top of their helmet.
[00:14:21] Speaker A: Yeah, the Battle brand mouth guards. Get that out of here.
Demarcus Robinson, you texted me ad nauseam this week.
Marcus Robinson.
I cannot like Jake. And I talk a lot.
Jake was.
And just in the last couple of days, I haven't had a tremendous amount of time to kind of do the usual back and forth. So I'd go to bed, you know, late. I wouldn't have my phone on me for several hours.
I checked my phone before I went to sleep, and it was Jake texting me like, I think DeMarcus Robinson's gonna have a big game. I'd wake up in the morning, it was a new text saying he thinks DeMarcus Robinson's gonna have a good game. And I'm looking at some of the numbers here, and I'm like, I don't see it. I also watched the game against Seattle where it's like, dude, he's not running his routes at the right depth, so I can see why they don't play him now.
And yet he was incredible.
[00:15:13] Speaker B: I also saw that as well. And I went, well. They have one semi real wide receiver. Yeah, Juwan Jennings can do good stuff, but, like, he's still fighting for his life on every single snap. And it was just like, I don't know. They don't trust Kendrick Bourne. DeMarcus Robinson is the only real option.
[00:15:31] Speaker A: Nor should they trust Kendrick Bourne, by the way, as evidenced.
[00:15:34] Speaker B: I am so sick of him. I. Well, I've been sick of him anyway. But, like, I, I. There was just like, sometimes you get a little. A little gut feeling. And I just. I really thought they had to trust him at some point in this game. And while he is still doing stuff at the wrong depths and jumping every goddamn time they throw him the ball near the sidelines. Don't know why. It's just he is still a solid wide receiver, and at some point, you have to say, and he has been getting open quite, quite a bit over the last six or seven weeks and just not getting the ball. So, hey, I was right.
I also also, the line on his. You couldn't find it everywhere. And by the way, just Generally speaking, I have a firm policy that any, any games I cover, I don't bet very much at all. But I don't.
[00:16:21] Speaker A: Yourself?
[00:16:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't bet on anything that I cover.
But like I looked for curiosity. The line was like two and a 22 and a half total yards.
And I was like, folks, they don't have anybody, I mean, how much did.
[00:16:37] Speaker A: They think they were going to throw the ball?
[00:16:39] Speaker B: I think he's had like 24, 23 twice in the last few weeks.
[00:16:43] Speaker A: So they again, to be very clear, like Juwan Jennings had one catch in this game. He threw as many touchdown passes as he had catches. Now it was like 35, 45 yards. It was sweet, but.
[00:16:55] Speaker B: And he had more completions on air yards, 15 plus down the field than Jalen Hurts did in the second half.
[00:17:05] Speaker A: He's the only player non quarterback in NFL history to have two playoff touchdown passes.
[00:17:11] Speaker B: Love it.
[00:17:12] Speaker A: That's unbelievable considering that there was a time in football, I mean I presume that super bowl era, the stat.
[00:17:17] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:17:18] Speaker A: But there was a time in football probably before him where like wing backs were throwing the ball like crazy.
[00:17:22] Speaker B: By the way, in case anyone is unfamiliar, just going back to when he was recruited at a high school for those unfamiliar, he was the number five quarterback in the nation. He was a four star. Would you like to guess the quarterbacks behind him? I can just. I'll name you three of them.
[00:17:39] Speaker A: Give me his, give me his recruiting class.
[00:17:42] Speaker B: One of them you'll see next week.
[00:17:44] Speaker A: So. No, I'm saying what year? What year?
[00:17:46] Speaker B: Oh, oh, I don't have the Europe right now. Oh, well, I'm gonna say 2017.
[00:17:53] Speaker A: Yeah, seems right. 2017. So that would have been the 2021 draft. 2020 draft.
[00:18:03] Speaker B: Sounds right. Maybe 2016.
[00:18:05] Speaker A: I mean Purdy would have been behind him.
[00:18:07] Speaker B: Nah, it's, it's before that.
[00:18:09] Speaker A: Do you want me. Just give me the names. This is a bad bit.
[00:18:12] Speaker B: This is a real bad bit. Sam Darnold, we'll see him next week. He was number six.
[00:18:17] Speaker A: Behind him, Darnold was a hot shot. Hot shot prospect.
[00:18:21] Speaker B: That's right. Also a hot shot prospect. Joe Burrow, number seven.
[00:18:26] Speaker A: Damn.
[00:18:27] Speaker B: Initially committed to Iowa State. I don't know who Shirai Ron Jones is. He also committed to Tennessee, by the way. And then number nine, Lamar Jackson.
[00:18:38] Speaker A: That's wild. Yeah, I, that's 2019.
[00:18:44] Speaker B: I don't think so. No, no, no.
[00:18:46] Speaker A: That was way earlier than that. No, it was way earlier than that would have been. That would have. That might have been the last Year I was covering recruit, like the penultimate year. I was, I think. I mean, I covered the accident.
[00:18:58] Speaker B: Let me look it up. And you keep vamping.
[00:19:00] Speaker A: No, I'm not. This is bad vamping, to be fair.
I, I, I also. Okay, so two things that stood out to me when we're talking about narrative, and it's kind of a waste of time because the narratives change. Right. The Niners get their ass kicked last week, vibes are bad.
There's a lot of negative stuff now. I think you and I both, we both picked the Eagles to win this game. I think that it felt like a pretty good pick.
When Kittle goes down.
I think we underestimated just how inept Philadelphia's offense would be.
I thought they were bad.
[00:19:35] Speaker B: Hard to comprehend. Hard to comprehend how you could put that product out there.
[00:19:40] Speaker A: Also adding in the fact that they could just get 12 yards anytime they wanted by running duo. Yeah.
[00:19:47] Speaker B: Or, or like, just, just run a little rpo, like, which they didn't do. Like, that was. They could, they could have screened the 49ers pretty easily. There's a lot of things they could have done. And they went, okay, let's panic, call a play, and Jalen's going to chuck it up. And occasionally we'll run for 12 yards, and then the good plays will have. Half of them will be called back for penalties, and then we will completely shut down.
[00:20:12] Speaker A: Yeah, they're a good meltdown team, for sure.
They did run that back shoulder, that little fade route on.
I think it was second and 20. I knew it was coming. They didn't run it to A.J. brown. They ran it to Dotson, and it.
[00:20:25] Speaker B: Hung up in the air for about 15 seconds in the wind.
[00:20:27] Speaker A: It was a brutal watch. I mean, we, the whole story of the game was hanging up in the air during that pass.
[00:20:33] Speaker B: Did you see on the last play of the game, it was Hertz and Petullo talking to each other, and Petullo's.
[00:20:42] Speaker A: Like, what about this?
[00:20:43] Speaker B: And Hertz is like, I don't think that's going to work. We should do this. And then Siri is like, I don't know, sir. He comes over, too, and he's like, I don't know. Whatever you think. And clearly Hertz calls the play, which doesn't work.
And that's probably the end of Patullo's reign.
[00:20:59] Speaker A: Absolutely. If he didn't get fired immediately. There's also the fact that they called the timeout before that play. I'm sorry, I know that we're harping on The Eagles here a little bit too much. But, like, I am flabbergasted as to how the Niners won that game. And the only way that we're going to get to the answers is by dissecting everything the Eagles did wrong first and then working our way back.
[00:21:18] Speaker B: Correct.
[00:21:19] Speaker A: So it's 48 seconds left, it's fourth and 11. They have three timeouts.
This is not an offense that's built to just get 11 yards at will. Right. They can. They have playmakers, but that they don't have the quarterback to just get 11 yards with a guarantee. Also, it's a shorter field. They're at the 21 yard line, so the 49ers don't have to cover the entire field, therefore creating space between linebackers and safeties and such. So they have three timeouts. There's again, yeah, 48, no, 43 seconds left in the game. If you have all three timeouts and you don't complete the play, there's about, let's say 38 seconds left. That is enough time to get the fucking ball back.
Not with much, but in this era of field goal kickers. And I know they were going into.
[00:22:05] Speaker B: The 49ers unable to do anything and with weird wind, who knows what could happen?
[00:22:12] Speaker A: Who knows? Maybe it just flips directions. I don't know. They were going into it. But, like, Elliott's a good kicker and you get him somewhere within 40, that's fine. You saw what Thomas Morsted had done on his prior punt. I'll be that one into the wind. But like.
And special teams, by the way, not great for the 49ers today.
Not just Morset having a bad punt, though he did have an exceptional punt earlier in the game. But you also had bad returns. They were just. Sidney Brown was just killing him on kick coverage because Luke Gifford wasn't in there. And let me tell you, Jalen Graham, not Pro Bowler Luke Gifford on special teams kick coverage. But again, you're calling a timeout because you can't get the play in on a 4th and 11, therefore burning the timeout, therefore allowing the 49ers when you don't complete the 4th and 11 because you throw it into.
[00:22:57] Speaker B: Right.
[00:22:58] Speaker A: You said triple. I think it was quadruple coverage. Now they can just go into victory formation. Like, what do you do, Nick Sirianni, what is it you do here?
[00:23:07] Speaker B: They literally went to the sidelines. I'm telling you, rewatching. He's like, oh, well, whatever you think, Jalen, you know, I guess. I guess. And There was just like a total lack of conviction on everyone's face.
And then for Jalen to just.
I mean, what was that? Well, I don't, I don't know, man.
I really don't. And it's funny because this 49ers defense is so, so beatable. And the, and the Eagles showed multiple times how you could beat them.
[00:23:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:35] Speaker B: And they went, well, we should probably not do that again. Or we should, you know, get called for one penalty and then get completely shook. They had one designed run for Hertz, went for like an easy 10, and they went never again. Because you had a penalty.
[00:23:50] Speaker A: No, the AJ Brown drop on, on third and five earlier on that drive was a real tone setter. I know that they got it with Goddard after that, but that was a tone setter.
You know, White had a great sack to start that one off.
That, that rolls off about 35 seconds o'. Clock. So about a minute 30, they snap it on a first and 10 from the 20 and white gets it. And I think that Hertz could have run that thing into the end zone if, if the analysis that I heard, because heaven forbid Fox give us a replay. God is correct.
[00:24:22] Speaker B: God, I can't.
[00:24:23] Speaker A: If I get another.
We're gonna get Fox probably again next week. So I just need to emotionally prepare for this.
I don't need to see the close ups of the players and coaches faces after every single play.
I know who they are, what I need.
[00:24:38] Speaker B: You're also so close where you like.
[00:24:44] Speaker A: Every play. It's like, it's like, I got an idea.
Show me what happened on the plate. You have. Tom frickin Brady apparently has nothing but football knowledge, but he isn't allowed to break down plays after they happen. That's too fast for him.
[00:24:59] Speaker B: And clearly he doesn't have the ability to replay the plays because he goes, okay, so here's what happened. It looks like there's pressure. Oh, maybe, maybe there was pressure. It looks like you're like, Tom, did you. First time you're seeing this too?
[00:25:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:13] Speaker B: I don't know what they're doing over there.
[00:25:15] Speaker A: Well, I mean, that close up was incredible. Thank you. Well, yeah, that camera that the Canadian betting company got me 10 years ago finally came in handy. It was a great defensive drive in the sense that it worked. And again, that's kind of what it is. It's a Machiavellian undertone to all of this. Was it like specifically good? Did it feel like it pushed the realm or art of the game of football forward? Hell no. It was ugly and nasty and gritty and schwarmy. And yet because the outcome is 49ers win 23:19, you're like, Banner day. Hang it up on the wall. And they're all going to have to be like that from this point on. I mean, that might just be, you know, one quarter of next week's game.
[00:26:00] Speaker B: And yeah, listen, like, they again. But none. They have had no business in any of this. They've had no business competing for the one, even still being in the playoffs despite the injuries.
And like, logically, they should be skewered next week, but none of this is. None of this is logical. And the fact that Sam Darnold is the quarterback of the Seattle Seahawks and the fact that Seahawks, you know, sort of have some iffiness to them on offense, I don't know. And I also think Ricky Pierce, all better play fans are not gonna take it well, nor should.
There's an argument he's better off sacrificing his knee a little bit playing and re aggravating it just for the sake of the narrative as that is. I'm not encouraging anyone to injure themselves. I'm just saying for all the people playing through injuries and for all the things that the 49ers are get to this point, like for him miss next week would not be looked upon fondly by the fan base.
[00:27:05] Speaker A: All right, Jake, you got to reset.
[00:27:07] Speaker B: We're going to.
[00:27:07] Speaker A: We got a robot situation happening here. I'm going to drop you. You got to come back in here, reset your guy. But I'm with you. Let me, let me, let me lay down the law on that situation. So the Pierce all thing is just inherently weird.
And I guess the bonus for the 49ers, and I think this was reflected in the Demarcus Robinson of it all, was that they didn't prepare at all this week with the idea at all that Ricky Pierce hall was going to play.
So that is a big departure from last week when they expected him to play all week. And then he just doesn't show. Just doesn't. She just showed up like 45 minutes before the game started.
And I don't have definitively, but I've, I've said it on the channel, so we might as well lay it out here again. Like, the thought was that he would at least try it out before that game. The thought was that he would, he'd give it a go. And because they weren't going to play Jordan Watkins, they weren't going to play anybody else. He was the guy for the game plan. It seemed as if Seattle's game plan and I've actually now heard this, Seattle's game plan was we're going to let Ricky Pearsall beat us.
He doesn't show up. Guess what happened?
They lost. And so there is a.
So this week was better in the sense that hey, at least they weren't preparing as if Ricky Pearsall was going to play in this game. But they're going to need Ricky Pearsall next week.
I don't know what it is that they can do to fix that knee. I would imagine two plus weeks off now is beneficial, but I don't know. I don't know because there's a lot of questions as to what it re aggravated. When was it re aggravated? How can you practice on it if it got re aggravated against the Bears? And again they wrote him into the game plan so they thought he was going to play. And so it's just a big old mess here. Let's see if we get Jake back.
Jake, are you, are you hanging? Oh well, I'm bad. I'm bad at producing. Are you with us, Jake?
He's not with us but it's very eerie watching him not be with us.
Let's try the solo mission again.
All right. Some other guys who stood out. There was one specific thing that stuck out for me tactically on defense beyond the fact that Robert Salah just blitzed more which they threw caution to the wind on a day with 35 mile per hour Gus and it worked out for him.
They moved Lenore to be a boundary corner only in this game which was super interesting and I think I see the logic in, in that being the case with Lenor being the the boundary corner only because it allows him to maybe crash in on runs. The Eagles do a lot of one sided formations and so you can bring in Lenore as almost like a linebacker at times and then you can do it on the other side with Stout if they do play it to the boundary side. But they were a very field heavy offense team so I, I thought that was a good idea. Except it, it really didn't manifest as a good idea because he just kept getting cooked. So I'm not sure what you do with diamond or Lenore at this point. Bernardo Green had a nice bounce back game. Stout was very good. Again you got good play from your state. Well, at least one safety. The guy who you didn't even start the game with. Pinnock was a disaster again though he did get that holding call against him, which I guess qualifies as an attaboy.
I'm not sure what you do going into the Seattle game with your cornerback situation, because I still have a tremendous amount of questions about what's going on there.
[00:30:40] Speaker B: I think they kind of have to leave it as is and just cross their fingers and hope for the best and just kind of let Upton somehow guide them. But it's not a great situation. I think Siegel has to play regardless of where Jay, your Brown is at.
[00:30:57] Speaker A: Jair got ruled out with a hamstring injury. It's pretty hard to believe, especially with a likely short week. I don't know if that's become official yet or not.
Hard to believe that he would play against the Seahawks. And, yeah, I think that Ty goes to. Oh, my God, that was really good. We should do that some more. In the case of. Of Marquis Siegel, and we'll have to see the all 22. There might have been a lot of stuff that strictly, you know, Jalen hurts, doesn't take advantage of. Right. He might have actually been really bad in this game, but it wasn't apparent because the quarterback was somehow even worse.
Another. Just another point. Narratively, we talk about Kyle Shanahan or people, not we, but I think this is a fair one. There's a lot of criticism about Kyle Shanahan not winning big games. Okay.
Yes, he has not won the three Super Bowls that he's played in. And, yes, he can't. He did not cover himself in glory in that performance against the Seattle Seahawks in Week 18.
That was a pretty big fucking game, and he coached pretty fucking well.
I'm not sure it exonerates him from all of his past failures, but this idea that Kyle Shanahan can. Can't win the big one. Maybe the big one, but a big one. He can certainly win a big one. That was one hell of a coaching performance. One hell of a coordination performance.
[00:32:09] Speaker B: It's tough. It's tough because there's sort of like, an impossibility to that question where, like, until you do it, you haven't done it. But, like, Kyle is clearly an extremely, extremely, extremely good coach.
[00:32:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:21] Speaker B: And I. I don't know how you make sense of his losses other than that he's. He has some flaws and he can't be perfect and that he clearly makes some damning mistakes. But I don't know. He's clearly one of the top five best coaches in the league.
[00:32:36] Speaker A: And I'll say this. I mean, he get.
We. I always come back to who has the better head Coach who has the better quarterback. And in this game, we both agreed that the 49ers had the better head coach and the better quarterback. We just didn't think that that would be the differentiation in this game. We thought it would be close because of that, but we didn't, we didn't think that the Niners could overcome all of their deficiencies everywhere else.
But Kyle didn't, you know, his game management. And I don't think it was entirely him. Because Kendrick Bourne screws up, you lose that timeout at the end of the first half.
I do think that that first timeout they used in the second half, which could have proved really big, was certainly some part on Kyle because they were just bad coordination. They just didn't have the right guys in bad situation. They have to call a timeout before the play clock goes early. And that happens a lot with Kyle because he has very wordy play call.
And you know, I did see him. They cut to him. This was a perk of the constantly looking at the.
They're constantly cutting to people's faces. But like Kyle, like shuffling through his papers like Milton and office space was a bit, was a bit much. I was like, oh boy. Yeah, like right after, right after the timeout situation. Seeing a man shuffle papers does not inspire confidence. But that's how I wish.
[00:33:48] Speaker B: I wish he had a full. A folio like, like a full binder.
[00:33:53] Speaker A: It's all I could think about is like, can someone get him a hole punch and a ring? Just it's 35 mile per hour winds and he's just carrying around loose leaf. Like, what are we doing here? But it was, it was, it was an incredible performance by him.
The culture, I mean on a macro and micro level. And then that was just, that was just a gutsy ass performance from Brock and no one will ever give him the credit for that because, well, Christian McCaffrey scored the touchdown. So it had to have been Christian McCaffrey the whole time. And Christian had a very good drive and a very good second half.
But again, he's going out there with scrubs. I mean scrubs outside of McCaffrey Scrubs. I mean Jennings, if you want to elevate him to that level, that's fine. On a drive that, by the way, Trent Williams is getting cooked late on. I mean, not doing well.
[00:34:40] Speaker B: I mean he is a hamstring. A hamstring that's barbecued. So that's, that's factor Andy in Brock through two terrible interceptions, right? I think his frustration was like, stop Giving me comeback routes because that just lets the Eagles drive on the ball in these conditions.
[00:34:56] Speaker A: But they kept calling them, and he had to execute them. And some of the throws that he made in this game, those layered passes, anytime the Eagles ran zone, I mean, Brock was throwing some buttes and then just ruthless execution on that final drive. 47 yards, I do hate, because contextually, it's now very difficult to be like, 47 yards. That's not that long of a drive. Well, in the NFL in 2026, it's actually a very long drive because field position is just.
You get it at the 50 now. Sometimes it's preposterous with fourth downs and these kickers and all this crap. It's. It's ridiculous. But I thought that Brock really did a great job in managing that game without going into a shell, and it was just a gutsy performance from a gutsy quarterback. And I think that if people didn't want to. People, if someone were to have just shown up and watched that game with no contextual understanding of who Brock Purdy is, you'd say, oh, I like that guy. I like the cut of his jib. But because he's, you know, last pick of the draft and a bunch of people have made it a career landmark to. To never believe in him or to never give him praise, like, they won't.
[00:36:04] Speaker B: I. I think people have a tough time being like, he did one thing bad or he did another thing good. There's just like. I feel like people have a difficulty in terms of parsing and actually saying, on the whole, this person did generally well, but had a few damning plays, and they are flawed in a number of ways, but they're very talented a number of ways because you want to put things in a box. And I understand saying this is good, this is bad is much easier, but, like, that's not how anything in life really works.
[00:36:35] Speaker A: Not even close. Not even close. It's.
You also add in, like, again, I just can't get over. Other quarterbacks would just get the praise for a gutsy performance, but he just won't, and that's fine. It doesn't matter to me. I'm not his agent. He's got his money. Like, what's it matter? But it is bizarre.
It is bizarre. Like, why do people not like this guy? Because I watch him and I don't know. Yeah.
[00:37:02] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:02] Speaker A: My big question is, can you execute the offense? He executes that offense at a very high level.
[00:37:07] Speaker B: I think it's the lack of elite arm talent that the ball's fluttery. And so people see Josh Allen whip and like, Brock can't do those same things, but he can avoid pressure at an extremely high rate, make plays off schedule and playmake. But he is a short little guy who's drafted late and doesn't have those same measurables. So it's like hard to be like, well, at some point this will all fall apart maybe. But like, he's been doing this for a while now.
[00:37:34] Speaker A: I mean, in the same way that Josh Allen will fall apart because I saw the way that he played today and you're like, well, I hope you enjoy what you got because he's not here for a long time if he has to keep playing that way. Same way Lamar Jackson looks like a shell of his former self. Like, yeah, Brock might have a shorter shelf life than most quarterbacks because he's a shorter guy, but he's 26 years old, like, and he somehow fought through that. I mean, I'm not going to pretend as if turf toe is, you know, some career threatening injury or something. I'm not going to build it up into something. But like, I didn't think Brock would look this good this consistently post turf toe and he's looked really good. We're not blaming the turf toe for those interceptions anymore, to summarize it. And that was an easy out for a lot of us and it looked pretty obvious that that was the problem in a lot of games. So I am, I'm, I'm in awe. I'm in awe of Shanahan and Purdy's just absurd stubbornness.
Really thought that Bob did a great job. I mean, I cannot understand how Eric Kendricks and Garrett Wallow look so goddamn good today. So good. They were the better linebackers in this game.
[00:38:41] Speaker B: Definitely.
[00:38:42] Speaker A: The other guys are really good. I mean, Bond has his warts, but like Nicobi Dean and Campbell are like good linebackers.
[00:38:50] Speaker B: They weren't following Kendricks the way Kendricks, for an undersized, pretty much small linebacker played way above his weight was really impressive. I think you have to remember, like, he is coming off the street, so he's fresh. And there's an element of that, of not having any attrition of a season and also these guys knowing it's the playoffs. So just like playing like they're willing to die out there does matter. But like, not having that wear and tear might help a little bit in terms of being able to pack a punch above their weight. And they just played well. They played sharp. They didn't get washed out all that consistently. I was. I was impressed with Kendrick's has always been a good coverage linebacker. He was really getting coverage today too, dude.
[00:39:32] Speaker A: He was wallow was really, really good in coverage. And I'm just. I'm very curious to get into the tape of this because it was. Fox wasn't going to help us out in that regard. But it really is a question of how much of this was Philadelphia and how much of this was the 49ers. And I'm not going to say that it was all Philly. It's probably, you know, somewhere in the 50, 50 range if I'm being generous to.
That's maybe a little bit over critical of Philly. I don't know. Like I am.
[00:40:02] Speaker B: It's a lot Philly.
[00:40:03] Speaker A: It's a lot Philly. It's a lot Philly.
[00:40:05] Speaker B: But it's one of the worst offenses I've seen all year long. Like by far like bottom, bottom five offense in terms of coordination structure, what they're trying to achieve which is they have no goals. They're just hoping Saquon will answer everything for them. And then he's kind of can't.
[00:40:23] Speaker A: He kind of could. He kind of could.
[00:40:25] Speaker B: He kind of could. And then they sort of went away from it. Yeah, he's great.
[00:40:30] Speaker A: The game. The game at somewhat. It didn't turn out this way but this game did have a bit of a priming for like who's the better running back and we talk about who's the better quarterback. Like who's the better running back because neither of these offenses can do anything in the past game. So just who can run it more. And it would have been Philly. But Philly can't throw the ball and Brock Purdy played well enough to throw the ball consistently even with again scrubs.
One thing.
[00:40:54] Speaker B: Duds.
[00:40:54] Speaker A: Oh yeah, one thing.
[00:40:55] Speaker B: I would love one. Well, before we get to duds, I think one thing like we should mention before my Internet craps out again is like tight end now is suddenly a very, very, very high need on the draft board. Unfortunately Kittle's gonna miss the whole next year. He's. He's done for next year. Based on the timing of the season, maybe he could come back from the playoffs or late in the year but like I mean the way.
Yeah, the way Achilles work. Like he could. No, he could play next year but like he's not going to be anywhere near full speed. Like I. I would expect him to miss over the overwhelming part of next year. And if slash when he comes back, not at all look like himself.
[00:41:37] Speaker A: Right.
[00:41:38] Speaker B: You need a tight end. It is clearly not Luke Farrell. Tonjas can receive for you, but you do not have a real tight end, so you gotta draft one. I think at.
At latest, by round four.
[00:41:50] Speaker A: Oh, I mean, it has to be earlier than that. I think that you. You take the money that you should have gotten for your home playoff games, but you didn't get a home playoff game because the packers have lost. So it won't happen now, but you take the money in the pile and you give it to Kyle Pitts.
Now, I think Kyle Pitts will probably get franchise tags, so this is all somewhat moot.
[00:42:12] Speaker B: But he's not going to block the way the 49ers like to block.
[00:42:15] Speaker A: Well, I don't really care because he's pretty awesome.
[00:42:17] Speaker B: And I agree.
[00:42:19] Speaker A: You're never going to get Kittle. This is the issue. You know, we've talked about this a lot with Trent Williams, and it's like I'm of the mindset of, okay, well, you're never going to replace Trent Williams. At some point, you do need to get a person, though, who can give you something that's a real plus.
We're all in agreement on that. Whether you can get that guy in a first round of an NFL draft or not is a different conversation. I mean, you could get Sadiq from Oregon and maybe he can come in and do. Because he's yoked. I mean, he's. He's unbelievable. I don't think he's as good of a football player as George Kittle will ever be, but you can at least delude yourself into thinking that he can do both.
You can go get David and Joku. Not nearly as good of a blocker, but a pretty damn good guy. Like, you're just not going to get Kittle. But now you're in a spot where you have to go get somebody and. And you can't roll with Tonjas as.
[00:43:09] Speaker B: Let us help you draft the tight end, please.
[00:43:12] Speaker A: Pretty good at it. Go get Gavin Bartholomew, whatever practice squad he's on.
[00:43:17] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, there's the, like. There's like Tyler Higby out there.
There's Dallas Goddard, guys who are just perpetually injured.
[00:43:28] Speaker A: Well, I mean, the other. The other actors, like Tyler.
[00:43:30] Speaker B: The ghost of Tyler Conklin.
[00:43:32] Speaker A: Oh, boy. Yeah. No, he's shot.
The other irony is that we're entering an era where next year, if it has, it's already happened. But next year is going to be all about 13 personnel.
Everyone's going to figure out, like, oh, if we put really strong athletic players on the field, we're going to have a good offense. And like, so the Niners were trying to get away with 12 personnel this year. They ended up, in a weird way, doing it by just using juice and as a motion tight end for the final half of the season.
But if Kyle's going into the film room whenever this season ends, who knows when?
And he's trying to figure out what the trends are or if he's just. Let's be more blunt, when he goes into the room and sees what are the Rams doing so that I can copy it for next year, he's going to see a lot of 13 personnel, and he's down to 1 2. Like, how many of these guys you could put tonjas out in 13 personnel on the very, very end.
You don't have two blocking tight ends now, and you shouldn't go and get in without Kittle. You sure as hell shouldn't replace him with a guy who only blocks because you tried that with Feral. And how's that working out? He doesn't block or catch. So, yeah, tight end really goes high on the list amongst so many other positions. But maybe they figured out safety today by cosmic intervention.
[00:44:50] Speaker B: I guess it'll be really funny when Jair plays on a bad hamstring next week, and then we don't see Siegel ever again.
[00:45:00] Speaker A: Can I at least say in the reporting that I have done on the subject matter, which has been a lot of sort of, hey, so what's going on there, you know, between you and me, statute of limitations or. I'm not burning any sources here.
The argument is that the communication on the back end wasn't good enough from Siegel and that Jair, who has been handed the responsibility because d' Amador Lenore doesn't communicate well. Renardo Green's a terrible communicator. They kind of ran through everybody.
Malik Mustafa's apparently not a great communicator on the back end. So they went through Jair and like, Jair's best quality might be that he can remember the play and that he can communicate the play. And he has a very clear, crisp voice. That might legitimately be his best quality.
[00:45:46] Speaker B: You know how you solve that? You go to pop fly drills like I had to do. You remember those where you say, I got it three times. You go, I got it, I got it, I got it. Yeah, just do that. Just do that in training camp.
[00:45:56] Speaker A: This is going to shock.
They kept. They kept my ass in the. Infield first base and third base.
[00:46:03] Speaker B: You're. Yeah. You're a first baseman if I've ever seen one.
[00:46:06] Speaker A: Yeah, pretty good. Pretty good to the point where I learned how to play left handed at first base to get extra stretch.
[00:46:15] Speaker B: You kind of have a Mike Jacobs look to you.
[00:46:18] Speaker A: Wow, that's. That's such a good cut that I can't even mentally reference it right now.
I usually get a Matt Stairs or a John Jaha.
[00:46:26] Speaker B: So he was a. He was traded to the Marlins from the Mets, but opened his career, I believe with a grand slam first.
[00:46:32] Speaker A: First play and an affirmative moment in young Jay Hutchinson's life, I imagine. Yep.
[00:46:37] Speaker B: Thought he was the greatest player of all time.
[00:46:39] Speaker A: I was, I was a big Frank Thomas guy growing up. Frank never played a great first. Paul Canerco did play a good first, I'll tell you that right now. And I played a good first. In fact, the only mitt that I still have is my first baseman's mitt, which is ironic because I didn't use it for like the final four years of my playing career, which ended in much, you know, just an absolute torn up shoulder that's never been repaired. But enough about me. Do you have any duds or any studs that you want to get to that we haven't mentioned yet before we get into some comments.
[00:47:09] Speaker B: I thought all of special teams was kind of a dud. Yeah, Pinero made his kicks, but he did miss that extra point pretty badly. Yeah, I. Yeah. Bad special teams day for everyone involved in this game. I think. Not this guy. More not great.
[00:47:27] Speaker A: No.
[00:47:27] Speaker B: B Rob.
[00:47:28] Speaker A: Not great. B Rob, not great.
Good decision by the Eagles to kick it to him because it was not great. Let's give Bryce Huff a little bit of love. I thought Bryce Huff played an inspired game against the run today, which is not his bailiwick.
I, I thought he was really, really good. The Eagles tried to run it at him repeatedly. If they weren't running duo up the middle, they were trying to run it at Bryce Huff. And Bryce Huff did not on the whole allow them to do that all that often. And he had one series where he was just everywhere and it forced a three and out. So big ups to Bryce Huff today.
Trying to think of other studs and or duds.
[00:48:08] Speaker B: I stud demarcus Robinson, of course. You know, we mentioned it.
Clear stud. I don't know. I feel like we covered, we covered a lot of ground in this.
[00:48:16] Speaker A: We got a lot of them. We mentioned, we even talked about C.J. west.
Yeah. The sky more Skymore had A tough game. Tough game.
A lot of Wham blocks against 92 and 93, according to my notes here, not ideal.
It's going to be. It's going to be fascinating.
I feel like a bit more optimism for the 49ers, and I don't think that it comes off of this game and we're all riding high because, again, I don't think there's much to ride high on. I think it's that Seattle gave the 49ers their best shot and it landed, to be fair, in week 18.
And that defense that they threw out in week 18 was markedly different than any defense that they had shown, I would say, up until that point that season, where they were just not adjusting full. It was kind of quasi dime, big dime the whole time.
And there was a lot of. There was just a lot of stuff that the 49ers didn't seem prepared for at all, whereas Seattle had kind of been building for that moment for two years now. Again, Seattle is going to be very well rested. I don't think that this is going to be like the College Football Playoff, where rest apparently is a detriment. I think that's going to be very helpful to them. But the Niners aren't going to be surprised by what personnel they have on the field being, hey, I thought we had Ricky today. Turns out we don't. That's a big problem. And they're not going to be surprised by Seattle's defense not adjusting to anything they're doing. So it's going to come down to who is stronger and more physical, which very well and probably should be Seattle. But I, you know, that was a game that if Christian McCaffrey doesn't drop a pass right at the end zone and give it right over to Drake Thomas, like there's a contest to be had there in a game that the Niners had no business playing with them. So as large as the margin seem, the actual scoreline, which is all that matters, wasn't actually that large. And the Niners are certainly well coached enough, even with the massive, should be crippling attrition that they've had to their roster to be able to find ways to maybe exploit what they now see from Seattle. And Sam Donald's going to give you one or two.
[00:50:25] Speaker B: I think. I think having that game that recently benefits the Niners more than it benefits Seattle, because the Niners found out how Seattle was going to try and break them.
And Seattle obviously is throwing everything they have in that game at them to try and win the one seed and now the 49ers go in and like have an idea of, of what to expect and they will have nothing to lose.
And listen, Seattle will have rest and have every advantage and should be favored probably by a touchdown. Who knows? Probably not. Probably more like it's going to be. I would guess the line is Seattle by three and a half.
[00:51:01] Speaker A: It was Philadelphia five and a half that kickoff.
[00:51:04] Speaker B: It was six at the start of the day.
[00:51:05] Speaker A: Oh, okay.
[00:51:07] Speaker B: I would.
Maybe, maybe it gets up there.
I don't know. I'm going to say it closes at like four for Seattle.
[00:51:15] Speaker A: Okay. I was thinking in the six, six and a half range, maybe it bumps down to five, five and a half.
[00:51:20] Speaker B: But yeah, I think these teams just play tight butthole games and don't they.
[00:51:25] Speaker A: Ever, don't they ever. Big Upton Stout game as per usual.
Coming up here and just fascinated because again, Bob had had some really bad games coordinating and it's not as if the Eagles didn't have their chances. But he tried some stuff in this game and not in sort of a. I have to do this sort of a way like with those stunts that he would do on third down where it's like that's not what your team is.
[00:51:49] Speaker B: Right.
[00:51:50] Speaker A: He was just trying stuff and had really competent linebacker play which always makes a defensive coordinator look better.
We have a profound amount of questions. I was pretty sure. Are these all members?
Yeah. God damn, you guys are killing it.
Let's do them. What do you got, Jake? Have you, have you been at all going through these?
[00:52:12] Speaker B: Brady was less annoying than usual today. I would agree. I would agree with that. I don't think he was great, but I appreciated him describing how to throw a ball in windy weather.
[00:52:23] Speaker A: I didn't listen to announce of Brady today.
I synced up the game with Sirius XM and listened to the 49ers call because t Rock spends all week inside the building and usually gives me a great tidbit or two. A tidbit or two that Grant Cohn got from the presser, if my ears did not deceive me, was the play that Juwan Jennings ran. It's called Sky Bang Debo pass, which they now call reverse pass.
I believe it was Grant who asked the question, what is that play called? What did you see there? All this. And it was a skybang Debo pass. They now call it reverse pass because Debo's not there. Also, Debo didn't throw it the last time they ran it, which you might remember was Emmanuel Sanders to Raheem Mostert in the game that the 49ers played at the Superdome in Seattle in 2019. The Emanuel Sanders touchdown that kind of sparked them to a victory there amongst so many.
[00:53:24] Speaker B: What if they made it? Skybang. Sky pass.
[00:53:27] Speaker A: Yeah, that.
There we go.
I don't want anyone but Juwan Jennings throwing that pass from this point on. Because even watching back, it was the exact same play. Even watching it back, you're like, oh, my God, Emmanuel Sanders almost didn't get it there.
And Juwan Jennings. Juwan Jennings threw a legitimately perfect ball to the point where Kyle in the post game is like, I wish he threw an imperfect ball that would have gone on his receiver's body. And instead he threw an absolutely perfect pass with nobody around for forcing the receipt to Christian McCaffrey to have to like Willie Mays catch it. So hell of a play. A defining play of the season.
It was.
That was. That was quite something. But Skybang. Debo pass.
[00:54:10] Speaker B: Nice. Do you think Peircel plays? I do. I do think he plays. I think it could go either way. I'm not overly confident. I think they sort of go, buddy, you gotta get. You gotta get out there.
[00:54:25] Speaker A: Yeah, you broke up a little bit. And I think that the point was well made. Like there is some public relations that need to come into play here for Ricky Pierce. All like, if you can, you at least need to publicly show you can't.
Because not being out there in a playoff game when everybody's dead and George Kittle just, you know, he wasn't putting the idea, oh, he's putting it all on the line. This. They're all putting it all on the line every week. But when you're down, Kittle, like, you're the number one receiver.
Marcus Robinson's not doing this shit again. You know, Juwan Jennings is half dead.
You got. You got to get out there and at least show that you can't do it as opposed to. Because it's not like they're going to play.
It's not like they're going to play the kid that they drafted. You know, it's not like Jordan Watkins is going to get out there and take your reps there. They will give them to no one. They will give them to Jake Tonjas before they give him them to a rookie. So, yeah, yeah, he really does need to play, doesn't he?
[00:55:29] Speaker B: Last question before my Internet completely craps out again. Should they some. I think tongue in cheek. But also, should they have drafted Ty Warren?
[00:55:37] Speaker A: Well, you can make the. You can make the question, should they have drafted? I mean, Ty Warren was available, Costen Loveland was not. But yeah, they probably should have.
I. I do think the first half of this game, if not the first three quarters of this game, felt like you could have really used a Mikel Williams. No.
[00:55:56] Speaker B: Oh my God.
Huge, huge Mikel Williams sized hole in this defense that you're like, man, if he was there, not sure any of this would be happening.
[00:56:05] Speaker A: Imagine a 5 technique in this defense. That would be quite something. And yeah. And again, this isn't to say that Keon White didn't have a good game, but like every time Clee Farrell was on the field, it was just barbecue chicken.
There's.
Yeah, yeah, they got a lot. They still have a lot of questions. Like, it seems rather weird that this team that is now in the divisional round of the playoffs and was, you know, one went away from getting a buy to the divisional round of the playoffs, has so many goddamn questions.
And you can view it as a real detriment as like, wow, you know, this is not that complete of a team. But also like, if this is their foundation, which I think is a fair argument to make, like, that's impressive.
[00:56:48] Speaker B: Yeah, they need a lot. They need a lot.
[00:56:51] Speaker A: Yeah, but trust them. Yeah. I mean, they're going to get it. Theoretically, they can do this other crazy thing beyond drafting, which is called spending money.
And I'm not sure I trust them to draft or spend money, but like, they can do both of those things.
[00:57:06] Speaker B: I don't think they'll do either. I think we'll leave it there before my Internet craps out and go watch this other game.
[00:57:11] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, the Patriots just went up 15 to 33 with some time left in the fourth nine minutes. I don't know what the Sharks are doing. Sharks are getting their asses kicked earlier.
I think this game is on Saturday. My guess is that I'm on a plane on Saturday morning.
But the expectation.
Yeah, probably. Who knows? I mean, luckily it's west coast so I can do a Saturday morning for what would be a Saturday night game. That is my presumption that it's a Saturday night game.
I don't know if that's official or not yet, but it is, I think Tuesday, Thursday, Right.
[00:57:48] Speaker B: I don't see any reason should be back to normal.
[00:57:53] Speaker A: It's never normal, Jake. It's never normal. And with that, we bid you adieu. Talk to you Tuesday. Bye.