The Final Verdict on the 49ers' Draft Class. Plus: UDFAs. [Double Show]

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:08] Speaker B: Hutch basking in the glory of a Khalil Dinkins signing here on the day after. [00:00:15] Speaker A: Everybody is in pain. [00:00:18] Speaker B: Like, physical pain. Like actual physical pain. Okay, Jake's gonna give us his. His takes on. On this draft class. [00:00:29] Speaker A: First. [00:00:29] Speaker B: I gotta say, I knew that that Ephesians Pry sock had some PBUs, right? Like, I'm like, yeah, he had PBUs. When I watched him, like, I saw him break up passes. So I this. This morning, I'm like, how many did he have, though? Like, was it a lot? Because he only had two interceptions on like 200 targets against. And I think it was seven last year, which is good. Good. Not great. But then I'm like, oh, you know, I haven't watched a YouTube highlight on him. And I click the University of Washington's YouTube highlights for Ephesians Price Talk, and it is reception after reception after reception. They clearly had some sort of algorithm to sort by, like, tackles or something. He's a good tackler, Very good tackler, but it is just him getting cooked again and again and again. So. Feeling great. Feeling great about this draft class, Jake. [00:01:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I. It's rare that day three is so strange that you're like, this brings the whole thing down. [00:01:32] Speaker B: It kills the vibe of the draft. [00:01:34] Speaker A: Let me. Because Dieter ripped. Let me just go through it, right? Let me go through it. Let's just. On design dribbling. We've talked about him. I. He's in the. He's in the draft guide. It's updated. My rank would have been. I have him at 57, which. Where they drafted him. Fine. Definitely a little early. Definitely a little. Our guy very explicitly. The gold. The gold helmet thing was the funniest, most predictable thing of all time. [00:02:03] Speaker B: Checks all the boxes. [00:02:04] Speaker A: Checks all the boxes. Just works really hard. Good kid. [00:02:09] Speaker B: We're just rock hard for this guy. [00:02:11] Speaker A: Just. Sure. Romello height. Great, great. Dieter and I Both had him 45 for 48 for me. I think he's not in their typical mold, but super springy. Like, could really, like, show up a lot of the other guys that got drafted at Edge, if all goes right. Well, I mean, set the edge as a run defender. Almost certainly not. [00:02:35] Speaker B: No, not. Not his ball game, but like, just. Just real fast. If I go over my top 100 and I need to get all here. I'm using Sickos football to sort with such ease. It's unbelievable. [00:02:49] Speaker A: Actually built it just for us. [00:02:51] Speaker B: Just kind of. [00:02:53] Speaker A: We're like, we need to find the guys that we. [00:02:55] Speaker B: Okay. [00:02:55] Speaker A: By the way, all the teams are in there. [00:02:57] Speaker B: And all the draft picks. All the draft picks are in there. It looks fantastic. So like obviously Arvel Reese, Ruben Bain, even David Bailey like. And Keldrick Falk, Mesadore Zion Young. That's a line for me. Like, there's obviously tears inside of that. TJ Parker I had ranked 68th overall. Okay. I had Romello height above him. I had Romello. I had. [00:03:20] Speaker A: I had Parker above. Because I think he is a very high. He's a much safer floor. Will play, will defend the run well. But I think heights highs are way, way, way, way higher. [00:03:32] Speaker B: The only. The only guy who. So like, again, I had Gabe Yakis above Romello height by a couple. You had him just below same tier. I liked Kieran Crawford more. No on TJ Parker. Like, I had Mason Rager really high. He didn't even get drafted. But Malachi Lawrence was 88. Barham was 91. He goes third round army said Thomas second round pick 92. So just by the way, by the [00:03:58] Speaker A: way, Barum going 92. You had. You had him 91. Item 88. That's. [00:04:02] Speaker B: That's a fun one. [00:04:02] Speaker A: When it's actually like. Because most of them are. Are off and strange just because it's the strangest draft ever. I will say I did have jackass at 55 and he went 55. So that's nice. [00:04:12] Speaker B: There you go. [00:04:13] Speaker A: It's fun when you. When you look through and you're like, that's cool. Which is not to say any of this is actually a reflection of the players. It's just fun when it matches up well. [00:04:23] Speaker B: Raiders Raiders took Keron Crawford at 67. I had him at 67. [00:04:28] Speaker A: I love that for you. [00:04:29] Speaker B: That's fantastic because I was super high on him compared to others. And maybe it's not great that it's the Raiders who lined up on me, right? They did okay, but they always do something dumb. [00:04:39] Speaker A: Man, this site looks awesome. [00:04:41] Speaker B: It does. Sickos football. You should get yourself. [00:04:43] Speaker A: I'm not even. I'm not even genuinely not even trying to pump it. I'm just excited for myself to be able to go through and sort the only. [00:04:51] Speaker B: No Jake's guys taken. But by the San Francisco 49ers. One Deeter guy taken, which is Romello height. I digress. [00:04:59] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that checks out. That checks out. All right. [00:05:02] Speaker B: So you were talking height. We were a fan of the height pick height. [00:05:05] Speaker A: Yeah. I actually, I really like Kalon Black. Is it early? Yeah, it's a little early. Also. He might have gone, I don't know. It's a strange running back draft class. I don't know what intel. [00:05:16] Speaker B: Caleb Black was one of your guys, Jake? [00:05:18] Speaker A: Yes, he was one of my guys. [00:05:19] Speaker B: There's your guy. There's your one. [00:05:21] Speaker A: Yeah, they got. They got one of your guys. One of my guys. So I really liked him. The fit made a lot of sense. He's the one guy I mocked that actually went there. I almost mocked Romello Height, but I didn't think it's funny. Somebody didn't have any reading comprehension on Twitter. Shocker. [00:05:36] Speaker B: What? [00:05:37] Speaker A: And so I didn't think. I didn't think he would. I didn't think they would take him at 58. That felt slightly too early. And I thought in the trade down, I mocked where they'd get the Dolphins 90th pick. They actually got the 87th. How about that one? Yeah, I thought that would be too late for him. Turns out it was exactly right. They draft him at 70 and that's the exact right spot for him. So all that makes sense. I think Kalon Black makes a lot of sense for them. Of course, we talked about it. Third round guy. [00:06:08] Speaker B: Hilarious. [00:06:09] Speaker A: Insane bit. Insane bit. [00:06:12] Speaker B: It's. It's also. You look at this draft, obviously you get quarterback Coleman and Washington off the board kind of early fourth round. So you can maybe make the argument that they. We wouldn't have been able to get your guy if this guy is clearly better in your eyes than Washington and Coleman. To us, he was in the only [00:06:32] Speaker A: running back on their board at that point. Like, hey, we need to get him because none of them are worth it. [00:06:37] Speaker B: That's fair. It's a terrible running back. Class 90s. Just a bit rich for somebody who. Yeah. And they, they were really talking him up. This is a third down back. There's nothing wrong with that. That's a very valuable. [00:06:51] Speaker A: I think he can be more. But yeah, you're right. [00:06:53] Speaker B: Like, do you see a Kamani Vidal in Key Lim Black? Do you see that at all? [00:06:58] Speaker A: I think a different type of player, but I do see the explosiveness. I think he's a sneaky good receiver even though he didn't do a ton of that at Indiana. I just think he's pretty well rounded and has the explosive ability. We'll see. I mean their track record here shouldn't matter, but it does. Yeah. [00:07:17] Speaker B: So, I mean, I'm not sure if they. What mold they view him in. If it's more of an Elijah Mitchell, if it's more of a Jordan Mason. They don't even seem to like the Guy like the only other running back that they've ever liked besides Christian McCaffrey is. Is Elijah Mitchell. I guess like most certain Coleman. That feels like Kevin Coleman. [00:07:38] Speaker A: Young Mostert. Yeah. I mean, not Young Moster because he was 27 when he debuted. Anyway. Yeah. Okay. Grayson Halton, I think we talked about him. Ton of sense, right? [00:07:49] Speaker B: Yeah, he is. [00:07:50] Speaker A: We didn't. We actually didn't talk about him on the stream, but like, I broke him down on the Hutch Report. A guy that was not like my guy because of the fact I don't think he turns the corner well. I don't think he finishes well. Nope. And he doesn't hold up in the run game consistently. But he is the perfect. Like Niners, like Chris Kasirk, like, kill him. [00:08:10] Speaker B: Kill. [00:08:11] Speaker A: Go get fire. [00:08:12] Speaker B: Fire. [00:08:13] Speaker A: And literally everyone can imagine that in training camp. [00:08:16] Speaker B: I hear it. I hear it in my soul. [00:08:17] Speaker A: Hear it. Yeah. So it's great fit for them. I think 107 is totally fine. I think that's exact range you had him at 73. Item at 134, but. But again, that's like. It's kind of a loose 134. Where it could have been earlier, could have been later, and I would have been fine with it. I don't think they reach for him at all. I think they got good value in him and. And I think he makes a lot of sense for what they do. [00:08:41] Speaker B: I had him at 73 overall on my board. 107's just fine. He's a perfect fit. You know, listen, not gonna lie. K Park goes, you know, 155. That would have been fun. I'm not sure it would have worked. I think Daryl Jackson would have been a nice fit for them as well. I had him at 49 on my board. We both really like Nick Barrett. Me even more so than you. He goes to the Chargers. [00:09:06] Speaker A: I think he's both of our guys. [00:09:08] Speaker B: I'm pretty sure that's the case. Yeah. He got a lot of badges. He got a lot of stinking badges. I'm a little bit surprised that they didn't come back around for your guy. Skyler Gill Howard, who. [00:09:19] Speaker A: Yeah, if we're going to go stumpy, go full stump. Right. I mean, full stump. [00:09:23] Speaker B: And John was on with NFL Network being like saying what we have been saying for the last couple of months, which is, man, love watching Texas Tech's defense. They couldn't stop watching Texas Tech's defense. And John had a good line. He's like, I know they pay for it. But that's good investment there. [00:09:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, it was. [00:09:40] Speaker B: They didn't come back on Gil Howard. [00:09:42] Speaker A: So, yeah, let's get into to where it starts to get a little weird. [00:09:45] Speaker B: Oh, boy. [00:09:46] Speaker A: Doesn't Carver Willis. So here's the thing. I like Carver Willis. He flies off the ball. He can get second level with a quickness, plus plays with like a mean streak. And once he's attached, he can drive. My problem is they're looking at him to solve, I think, their left guard issue or at least compete for that job. I don't think they understand what the problem is. [00:10:11] Speaker B: No, they don't. [00:10:12] Speaker A: And their problem, they don't is you're dealing with someone like Byron Murphy who can go down on one knee, who can eat space. And you're talking about Leonard Williams. You're talking about physical, monstrous people talk about men. [00:10:28] Speaker B: We're talking about the highest order power [00:10:31] Speaker A: and eating space and just dealing with. And it's tough because that. That technique, that little corkscrew technique, like, is really tough to deal with because you got to be able to get low enough and he just pops right up and you're trying to climb second level. It kind of works really well against exactly what the Niners do schematically. Carver Willis doesn't really answer that. He's also stumpy. [00:10:52] Speaker B: He's. Yeah. Bigger ass. Thought for his weight. [00:10:56] Speaker A: Listen, like, I. I like how. I mean, he moves in a great way, like, and he connects. And I also don't think the anchor is that terrible. It's not. It's. It's not like he's a lean little. It's not like Roger was like Rosengarten. Yeah. Yeah. [00:11:11] Speaker B: It's not like, by the way. [00:11:12] Speaker A: Right, right. And. And he's gonna play guard. Like, he's. He's not playing tackle. [00:11:17] Speaker B: He's got 32 inch arms. So pretty hard to make the argument he should be at tackle. [00:11:22] Speaker A: And so it's going to be easier at guard. That said, I saw a couple examples and this is one of those things where we see a very specific thing. It is a very specific criticism that we make because there's a very specific issue it is not solving. So. [00:11:38] Speaker B: And it shows up a lot. Yeah. [00:11:40] Speaker A: Nick Martin couldn't get off blocks at the second level. We will talk about their other linebacker. Oh, boy. We'll get into that. [00:11:47] Speaker B: Jake. Crazy pills. I want to get into it so bad right now. We will not. But I want to do it so [00:11:52] Speaker A: bad right now so, so quickly. But Carver Willis, I liked it. I was like, this Is he did a really good job against Ohio State for the most part. But going to his right, going to his right against anyone who is not trying to just like get up field or chase something, who's actually trying to like read and react. Didn't move him. Couldn't move. [00:12:13] Speaker B: Nope. [00:12:14] Speaker A: Oh no. Going to his right multiple times, in fact. [00:12:18] Speaker B: He didn't just not move them. He often got picked up going to his right. There's one clip. [00:12:25] Speaker A: Are we willing to stepped on in that clip? [00:12:31] Speaker B: Well, that would require me to show everybody what the hell I'm talking. [00:12:34] Speaker A: Yeah, but, but either way, I mean, we don't have to show the clip. [00:12:36] Speaker B: Okay, fine, I won't. [00:12:38] Speaker A: I do like our heads bouncing around like this though. [00:12:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I should have prepared it. And so it is. It's a, it's a fine pick. It's way too early in my estimation. Now again, I have to caveat all of this by saying what's early in the 2026 NFL Draft. There is no rhyme nor reason. Logic has no quarter here. But it is interesting and perhaps even telling that they're like, you know what? We can't even wait. We can't even wait on this guy. We have to go get him right now. He couldn't possibly be there for us later. We have to go get him right now. And when the Niners kept trading down and picking up late round picks because one of the comments that we made consistently is the Niners are sitting pretty with 33, 38, 39, 138, 130, 338, 139. Because that's kind of when the draft ends. We underestimated how much draft this draft would have in terms of like, let's just click on the old Jacksonville Jaguars over here. Who are galaxy braining the living shit out of this draft. Had you heard of C.J. williams out of Stanford before yesterday? [00:13:46] Speaker A: No, no, I had not. [00:13:47] Speaker B: Neither had I. How about Zach? Zach Du Free out of Washington. The Edge? No, no, never came up. Parker Hughes, pick 240 out of middle Tennessee State. Linebacker. Honestly, probably should have heard about him. I've lost my title as Mr. Sunbelt, by the way. [00:14:03] Speaker A: Listen, it's. It's like you're trying to cover as much ground as possible and also get to everybody but like. Yeah, and then like, and like for, for Carver. I would probably have had him around. Right around like for Betchy. No way. Woo. Yeah, you know, probably like 140. Yeah. Dylan Wade for Betchi Naway Wu range like right around there like mid-140s, that sort of range. [00:14:32] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I wouldn't have had a draftable grade on him, honestly, because the pop is interesting enough to where you're like, oh, you can bring that into camp, but the. The low lights are so low. I mean, again, I. I don't want to crash all over him, but. Because I do like a lot of it, but he just kind of feels like a jag to me. And unless they're thinking about playing him at center, I just don't know how he's going to hold up. [00:15:00] Speaker A: I think he's more than that. What I have a lot of trouble with is that their existential crisis is the Seattle Seahawks. And sure, getting to the second level and running your scheme is fun, maybe move somebody. And I think the way they approached guard and the way they approach offensive line is very much weak. We know better than everybody else, our system works, our scheme works. Despite Kyle Shanahan saying on national television that, oh, we couldn't run the ball against Seattle and we couldn't do anything else because of that. [00:15:30] Speaker B: Well, so can I say this? Yeah, I have. I'm inferring, or I'm reading the tea leaves on Kyle a little bit because we were so obsessed with that concept, because we were obsessed with it for two straight years. Two straight years, mentioning, like, this is a real thing, and this is why I picked Seattle to win the division, all these things. I'm like, this is a existential crisis, as you noted, that Sean McVeigh has acknowledged. And again, Kyle's always a year late behind Sean McVeigh when it comes to dealing with these kind of prices crises. But as Cow Chip Doe points out perfectly, this is where I think the Niners have placed the blame. They've placed the blame on not having wide receivers who can do it. And then I think, specifically, if you think back to the divisional playoff game where they ran the juice option and we broke down that play a dozen times over, was it the offensive lines fault or was it Luke Farrell and Jake Ton just not being able to make a block now? But mine, by the way, could have addressed that problem, too. Yeah. So I think that they think that their issue isn't on the interior. It's on the exterior. And I think that's fundamentally wrong. [00:16:39] Speaker A: I think it's both. And I think it's more damning on the interior when you're dealing with the Seattle team that is destroying you up front. You have not answered that question. [00:16:49] Speaker B: And I also just questioned, this kid can play gap. I'm sorry, Jake, go ahead. [00:16:53] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. I mean, I. I think he's fun. I think he's got a little bit of a mean streak when he connects. He can really drive and really move, but it's. Yeah. [00:17:04] Speaker B: Can we move to their fifth round pick? Enrique Cruz. Just so that we're on the same note, almost the exact opposite. Enrique Cruz of Carver. I think he packs a pretty good punch. I think he's a true scrapper. There's a lot of puny in there. [00:17:25] Speaker A: Not for the same number. At the same school. Same. [00:17:28] Speaker B: So maybe that's it. Maybe I've just. Maybe I'm just dull. But I think I like him better than I like Willis. Again, not to take anything away from Willis's upside, but, like, there's something there. There's something there. [00:17:42] Speaker A: I mean, the feet, Listen, he's. I think he needs a lot of polishing. His hand placement's pretty, pretty bad. [00:17:48] Speaker B: Big time. [00:17:50] Speaker A: Lot of, like, technical. Like, I don't know what that was. And even, like, the footwork's not that consistent. Like, he's sort of does the right thing to start and then stops and you're like, I don't. Okay, I don't know about that. But, man, for a guy as big as he is. And I like the size, I like the pop. He's quick like he. His first step is impressive and he can mix up his sets where he can go and get you. It's that little. I forget what people call it different things, but it's like a jump set. It's the one that, like, Will Campbell should have been using a little bit more before he got moved to guard. How about that? [00:18:25] Speaker B: Now, did. Oh, I'm sorry, did they announce that they moved him to guard? [00:18:28] Speaker A: I am not sure. I had heard they were moving him to guard. [00:18:32] Speaker B: He does. That's the thing. Will Campbell did do a jump set at. At LSU every now and again, and he was really good at it. And this is why it was, you know, obviously the anchoring was a huge issue in the playoffs for him because his knee was gone. But you also can't do a jump set when your knee is gone, right? So, yeah, maybe guard. [00:18:47] Speaker A: It doesn't. [00:18:48] Speaker B: Doesn't matter. Like, I. I think Cruz is a nice depth option on the offense. [00:18:52] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm. I'm fine with that pick. It's. It's whatever. I like the bet on athleticism. I like that he does have a little bit of a mean streak. Right? Like, that's cool. I Think he will need development. I think they anticipate him needing development with their last pick. I'm fine with that. Very Niners Y. Of course, to be like, everyone's like who? [00:19:16] Speaker B: You're so smart. [00:19:17] Speaker A: Right? But. But they're betting on he's got traits before we go in order and talk about Ephesians Price because whatever. We got to talk about Jaden Duggar, [00:19:26] Speaker B: Jake let's crazy pills. [00:19:29] Speaker A: Yeah. So apparently some people think he's incredible, right? [00:19:35] Speaker B: You would have that opinion if you watched the 4 1/2 minute YouTube highlight mix that came out. This is a YouTube all star of all YouTube all stars. Because when you're playing at Louisiana and you're playing in the Sunbelt Conference, get this, you get to play some really crappy teams. And when he played Delaware in their first season in the fbs, he cleaned up because he's not getting touched. He's flying around because he is a legitimately awesome athlete and he looks awesome. You watch him against any level of competition above that and it's God awful. And Jake, I'll just be blunt here. I was looking anywhere for anything I had on 2024 ULL tape yesterday at 11pm because somebody texted me like, oh well, it wasn't that bad when he was on the edge at ULL is year when he transferred in. And I'll give them this, you can maybe do something with that. There's. He's got this little like ghost move that he can do. He's really athletic. So like, yeah, maybe, but he's way too light. He was getting Drew anytime we drafted [00:20:47] Speaker A: a 3, 4 outside linebacker. What are we doing here? [00:20:51] Speaker B: I think they, I think they view him as a Sam or a Will. And no, I think. I'll tell you, I'll tell you why I think they're doing this. I don't have this firsthand at all. He made two interceptions in Senior bowl practices, right? Shrine bowl apologies. Yes. Shrine bowl where the most. [00:21:08] Speaker A: Oh, we saw him at the Shrine Bowl. Oh my God, what a steal. [00:21:11] Speaker B: Jake, you and I watched damn near every second of Shrine bowl practices and the game like we're Shrine bowl heads. We prefer the Shrine Bowl. I don't have any notes on him from the Shrine Bowl. He didn't look any appreciably better than any other linebackers. And the interceptions that he had were zone coverage, like 7 on 7 where the bad quarterback threw it right to him on a dig. [00:21:36] Speaker A: Let me, let me get into this. If you, if you think a linebacker is good because they make Plays when nobody's blocking them, and when someone blocks them, they can't get off of it. That's not a good linebacker. It's not a good linebacker if you're only good when it's a clear, straight line play and no one's in your way. I am not impressed by that. I did not like his instincts. I do not think he. He read the play well. I thought he was always. His first step was almost always wrong. I think in coverage, he was consistently loopy and didn't have a feel. I think he was like, there were a couple plays where a guy. They just threw it right behind him and he was leaping for it. And because he's athletic, there was some recovery ability, but, like, he was not in the right position. He was not roboting even a hint of it. Like, I didn't see any feeling coverage. But the most damning thing is, like, all right, if you're going to be athletic, if you're going to be a guy that flies to the ball, I need to see some speed, like an aggressive line that says, I want to get in there. Like, I am an aggressive linebacker who's going to take this direct line. I'm going to. Even if. Even if I whiff right, I'm gonna get in there. I don't see aggression. I don't see a level of like, I want to die on the field. I don't even see all that athleticism show up on tape consistently. They're. They're guys on this list, right? Like that. The Niners drafted. So, like, Carver Willis. I would have had drafted. He was not on our initial board. I would have had a draftable grade. You wouldn't. Enrique Cruz. I would probably be. [00:23:13] Speaker B: Probably. No, but maybe. [00:23:15] Speaker A: Yeah, he'd be like a seventh on the RAS spec. Right. Ephesians Pry Sock. I had as a seventh, Jaden Duggar. I would have an undraftable grade. [00:23:23] Speaker B: Yes, agreed. Agreed. I don't know anyone who had a draftable grade on him. I legitimately don't. And then people look at the RAS score and say, oh, this is great. He doesn't. [00:23:36] Speaker A: There were so many good linebackers in this class. And to, like, trade one away and then just be like, well, and I like the trade. I like the trade. Right. To get rid of Dee Winters and say, hey, we're upgrading the draft pick. We're done with this guy. We don't really need him anymore, and we're getting a fifth form that's a steal. But then go, hey, let's just get Like a guy we really like at Light. It's. I don't know. I don't know. I don't like this pick at all. [00:24:01] Speaker B: If you want to make a bet on somebody who's crazy athletic and can't seem to find a position, because that's the other aspect. Right, right. He's a safety at Georgetown. Then they bring him in. It's like, you'll be a rotational DE for us. And again, not at lsu, at ull. Right, right. And he didn't put enough on tape at ull, where someone's coming and saying, like, hey, come and be, you know, like a third down guy for us at a good school. Because Again, I'm watching ULL versus Texas State, 20, 24. And I'm watching the Texas. I'm thinking, man, should we draft one of these Texas State offensive linemen? That they're kicking this dude's ass at end. So they go, I can't play end. Even though we thought maybe he could because he's long and athletic. Maybe he could play end. And like every now and again there's this little flash where you're like, oh, yeah. But it never. It never continues. It's one out of 10 and the other bat. The other ones are so bad that you can't unsee them. And so they're like, okay, let's make him a Mike linebacker and let's have him float around. He's got no feel, no recognition, no aggression. And yeah, there was a player too, in the Missouri game, which is the tape that I think most people should watch to best understand him, where he's in the morass, he's in the big pile and he gets his long arm out and in a gap that's already closed, he makes a tackle. There's no open field stuff. There's no. There's no straight line. You versus me. People will show the video of the sack and it's like, oh, you mean the one where no one touched him? He ran straight to the quarterback in the fourth quarter of a blowout game. [00:25:37] Speaker A: Right? [00:25:37] Speaker B: What? What? I don't want to do the damn voice again, but what are we doing? What's going on here? It is when. If you wanted to just take somebody on spec, if you just wanted to take somebody who hasn't figured it out at the college level, but you want to bet on that athleticism, why don't you take Harold Perkins out of lsu who's one. [00:25:57] Speaker A: Like, yeah, but when. I'm sorry, but when the late seventh round, right? [00:26:01] Speaker B: Like, even there who gives a damn? Right? [00:26:03] Speaker A: Like [00:26:06] Speaker B: how. How was this guy pick 154, Justin Jefferson comes off the board and they freak out. No, it sounds like they were very convicted. And again, there were a lot of linebackers that we didn't watch that got drafted like again. Right. [00:26:23] Speaker A: Well, we've watched red teams are strange with linebackers. Teams get very specific and get very in their own heads about what they like. Right. [00:26:32] Speaker B: But I don't understand how Keyshawn Elliott out of Arizona State, who's a big body linebacker who could definitely play Sam isn't somebody you go to there. How Torian York, who was a top hundred player for me, isn't someone you go to there. How Harold Perkins or Aiden Fisher isn't somebody you go to there. Even Kyle Lewis you want an athlete. Like, I don't think Kyle Lewis is going to make it in this league. I'll be real quick. [00:26:56] Speaker A: But by the way, Caleb Zor went off at 126 a pick before they were on the board at 127. He's. I love him. I love him. I think he's tremendous. I think he's going to be great for the Bills. I just wanted to mention we J was drafted at 121, which tells you all you need to know about this draft where he's awesome. Right. Caden region. But he went 121. So. [00:27:20] Speaker B: Right. That tells you where the draft was. Just. Just to circle on this, the Niners made a lot of trades. Here are the guys that were taken with the picks that they traded. 27, Chris Johnson. Okay. 30, Omar Cooper. I feel a lot worse about Johnson than I do about Cooper is what it is. 58 Emmanuel McNeil Warren. Probably 58 actually makes sense for him. [00:27:45] Speaker A: It's the right spot for him. [00:27:47] Speaker B: Not my people. [00:27:48] Speaker A: Like, why does he slip? [00:27:49] Speaker B: It's like. [00:27:49] Speaker A: No, he didn't slip. That's the slot he should have gone. [00:27:51] Speaker B: No, right. [00:27:52] Speaker A: Anyway. [00:27:52] Speaker B: 133, Matt Hibner. The tight end. Yeah, but yeah, Baltimore took him. So then you're like, oh, maybe. I don't know. Maybe I just have to presume he's going to be good. 138 Kyle Lewis. 152 Justin Jolly. Again, not my kind of tight end, but. So two tight ends taken on picks that were taken. Linebacker. Safety who probably should play linebacker, by the way. You want to take this guy? Just have Emil McNeil Warren or Manuel McNeil Warren play this position. He could do it too. Again, I don't have a problem with the trade downs. I just have no earthly idea what they watched to make them feel this convicted, that this guy's a good player. And. [00:28:34] Speaker A: Sorry, sorry. I just. I'm looking at tight ends, by the way, just as we're talking about it. Yeah. And Max Claire, his superlative was Terrence Fergalicious, and he went to the Rams, [00:28:43] Speaker B: which is just a type, sir. A type it is. [00:28:47] Speaker A: But, like, I mean, the fact that they did not address tight end at all. Okay. They signed the Penn State tight end. I. I gotta go watch him. The fact that they draft over that, they're just like, so. So like, we don't look at any boards. Maybe you should, because they're like, I know you. You need to have conviction. And sort of like, we. We did that too, where we sort of like, try and bury our heads in the sand a little bit. But we also start with, like, a little bit of a consensus board to say, like, all right, where's the general? We need a general rubric to see where to start. It is helpful information to show, like, how people generally think and they're not always. Right. Right. But have the information to delineate the stuff that makes a guy on the consensus board fall. Right. For the most part. So I don't know. I think they're a little too infatuated with themselves. I think the fact that you don't draft a tight end is stupid. And that said, they're not good at drafting tight ends, so, you know, who knows? [00:29:50] Speaker B: You want to know why they didn't take a tight end? Because they didn't have a tight ends coach for weeks now. They did, but they didn't. And he's new, and so does he really get to say anything? And that's maybe the biggest takeaway that I've had, which is this scouting department, which I have some serious questions about, didn't really get any better. They bring in Questy, who's an analytics guy. It seems as if he sorts by RAS score. If that's his influence. I don't know that for a fact. And then the coaches get to basically, on day three, just take somebody that [00:30:23] Speaker A: they want also, frankly, it's like, as much as, you know, their last pick is cool. Like, I like him a little bit. The tackle there, they could have drafted, like, a tight end. Like, a lot of cool tight ends went off the board in, like, round seven, which, you know, is whatever. But, like, Bentley went off the board, injuries went off the board. All, like, with Those late picks. 100 just Joe Royer's delayed, like, Cuevas. Was late. I just. I don't understand really what their thought process is on wide receiver was our issue with blocking. But tight ends, not when your signing was terrible like Luke Farrell was a huge reason they couldn't do anything. Yeah. Just going to expect George Kittle to be back. The way they're talking about Kittle is insane. And I know. And it would be different if they had approached it differently, but the way they've built this roster suggests they really do think he's going to be ready. [00:31:27] Speaker B: They don't have any choice for him to be ready. And I don't think that they've quite brought. They have done nothing to insulate themselves from the possibility that he's out there. But he ain't 85, which is the most likely outcome. That he doesn't have the same burst or explosion or athleticism and that it takes a while to get back if it ever comes back. Right. But he had a good Achilles tear. He tore his Achilles four months ago. [00:31:55] Speaker A: That's not. [00:31:56] Speaker B: That's a year injury. I'm sorry. It's a year injury. Even if you come back inside that year, it's a year injury. And this is a position that is predicated on like leverage low when it comes to blocking and explosion out of your stance. Like if. If a wide receiver or a running back had an Achilles injury, they wouldn't be like, oh, he'll be back for the season. [00:32:18] Speaker A: I think they saw Jason Tatum and went, we're going to be fine. Right. [00:32:23] Speaker B: I suppose. I mean, it is to not have any hedge at all. [00:32:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:29] Speaker B: Okay. Because like, you should have taken one early. They should have taken one early, but they didn't. That's fine. Okay. They don't want to do that. How to. How they come out of this draft thinking and apologies to. Forgive me, Khalil Dinkins. Apologies to Khalil Dickens, who might be great. We don't know. I watched him. [00:32:51] Speaker A: He seems like have a lot of competition to make the roster. Depending on. [00:32:55] Speaker B: He's on. Braden Willis, come on down. You're getting first cut because Khalil Dinkins is taking your job. It is, yes. This. This is a great point by Benali. I'm sorry. I usually don't like to do this during the show, but guess once said they don't like to offend CMC in terms of playing somebody else. Is there some of that? Not drafting a tight end and being bizarrely afraid of stepping on Kittle's toes. That's an extremely salient point, actually. [00:33:19] Speaker A: Yeah. No, I actually do think that's fair? I think because Kittle is also chip on the shoulder guy where he, you know, he's been in the past when they've. Him and Kyle have had some difficult moments over the course of his career. They've had like, they like Kyle massively appreciates him as a player, but they're not like the same style of person and they've, they've had little ups and downs. Nothing like crazy. But like they've been. There's been frustration there and Kittle kind of has been around long enough that he's like, yeah, it's interesting that they did that. [00:33:49] Speaker B: Right, right. Yeah. Kittle. Kittle will do the passive aggressive, I disagree sort of thing with Kyle stuff and John stuff, which. Yeah. [00:33:58] Speaker A: And he'll. [00:33:58] Speaker B: Yeah, you got. [00:33:59] Speaker A: You gotta ask Kyle about that. Kyle's a great, you know, all that. You're like George. The fact that you're being diplomatic is telling. [00:34:05] Speaker B: Yeah, well, George does his own research on top of that. But anyway, it is, it is. [00:34:12] Speaker A: I just, I just think it's irresponsible to not pick up a tight end when Kittle's coming back from an Achilles tear. When you're number two who's supposed to be your blocking tight end objectively was horrendous last year. And then your other guy is fun, right? He's a great receiving tight end. He's like a souped up Ross Dwelly. That doesn't help you as a block. Like as a blocker. So are they just gonna go souped up? Yeah, I mean I like Tonjas, but it's like, yeah, he's not offering you anything as a blocker. I just don't understand how they've solved the fundamental issue they've had where they were weak at tight end. Okay. You got, you got a blocking receiver. Maybe their plan is to just go more receiver, let the receivers block and do the inverse of what the Rams did. [00:35:03] Speaker B: Maybe that's why he takes dribbling. [00:35:05] Speaker A: There's a reason. I mean I texted you, I gave this draft to see same. It's and it's. And listen, it's a strange draft class, but I think their approach, it's a little bit. We're smarter than everybody else and the problems that you guys think we have don't really matter to us. All that stuff. [00:35:25] Speaker B: I think, I think they're chicken shit. I think that's what's going on here. I think, I think there's a level of chicken. [00:35:30] Speaker A: They approached it like it's any other draft. Right. They approached it like, oh, well, you know, we value edge. And we got an edge. And we. We got a receiver because we value receiver early. And we got a defensive lineman who's just doing the same old thing. Right? Like, it feels extraordinarily like no new lessons were learned. I think is one of. Like, actually. Actually, I think that's my takeaway of this. Like, no lessons were learned whatsoever about anything. And again, like, it's not to say this will turn out to be a horrible draft. Cause we don't know none of these guys have played a single snap. But to go and do the thing where you're like, all right, we're going to overdraft a wide receiver. Edge, fine. But, like, we're gonna value an edge. We're gonna take a third round running back and. And then, you know, a springy defensive tackle who might just be Kalia Davis. And then we're just gonna, like, overdraft a bunch of guys we really like that nobody had on their boards in day three and not really address the positions that everybody's like, hey, this is a real. They're like, well, we did address guard, but with, like, a style. Guard we like. Right? It's a style of guard we like. So it's. Yeah, it's. [00:36:40] Speaker B: So I'll throw this your way. For the last 10 years, here's how the 49ers have operated on draft day. And this has not changed. First pick is consensus. We need consensus. Everyone needs to be on the same page, which means that you go, safer than you probably should. Consensus. So that, in this case, is stribling. And they all got their heads together. It's like, maybe we could trade down a couple times. But then they've kind of freaked out the last second. They're like, let's go get stripling. Because gold helmet checks all the boxes. Consensus. This is something that everyone can get behind. Second round is John. John gets the second pick. Second round, second pick, whatever you want to call it. And that's height. Because John loved watching Texas Tech film. And he goes, we need a real pass rusher. And he looks at the depth chart and goes, what are our needs and who's the best guy to do it? And so that was height. Kyle has always had round three. Guess where Kyle wants to get a player. Running back. [00:37:39] Speaker A: Right? [00:37:40] Speaker B: Right. Because that's Kyle and his dad and holding Terrell Davis. That's why they keep picking running backs with that third, fourth round pick, because that's Kyle's pick. And here's how they have done day three since they got position coaches come in, bang the table. You got to tell kj, Right? [00:38:01] Speaker A: No. [00:38:02] Speaker B: KJ Wright's a big, intimidating dude. You should have told kj, Right? No, like, that's the issue here, right? Chris, we need some offensive linemen. Oh, okay. I got two guys for you. They're going to be the exact same kind of guys that I've always taken because I don't want to have to do a different thing. Right? [00:38:20] Speaker A: He's like, listen, are they a tackle? Are they a guard? We don't know yet. We. We'll never know. We'll never know. They spring off the ball. They've got a little bit of a mean streak. Sure. Are their arms stumpy. Sure. Are they limited? Are they going to drive anyone into the dirt? Probably not, but, man, I'm going to be able to coach them. [00:38:39] Speaker B: But Grayson Halton. You don't think that Grayson Halton was high on Chris Kuceric's board? I mean, the easiest thing that's ever been done is to say that that's the case. [00:38:47] Speaker A: Pretty exaggerated draft on the whole. [00:38:50] Speaker B: But this is Price. Sock Price. An interesting one because it's like, what if we had a Kello Witherspoon who could tackle, but guess who also employed a Kello Witherspoon? Raheem. So. And I will say Price. Sock actually stands a chance because he's so big and can move so well. I don't like his. Yeah, I don't love his play recognition, but he's a good. [00:39:11] Speaker A: I don't like his tape. I don't. I don't like his tape. Yeah, I had a vomit grade on his tape. Yeah, well, blue chip athlete with, like, great size who can tackle, so you go, oh, wait, it's round seven. Oh, wait, no, it's not round seven. Oh, sorry. It's pick 139. Whoops. Yeah. Okay. [00:39:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I do wonder if he's maybe better at safety, but then I just don't see the play recognition to trust him at safety and then. But he can close windows because he's so big. But there's a lot of. [00:39:44] Speaker A: Like, he could be fine. He could be fine. I could turn him into something. There's a lot of upside there. I did not like the tape, but he's a guy the coaching is going to be everything for. [00:39:53] Speaker B: I'm fine with that on day three, but again, the consensus early. [00:40:00] Speaker A: Like, that's early for Ephesians, prize hock. Like, even. I don't really care. Like, I know it's my board and other boards. That's early. I'm like, he's not, his tape was not impressive. He's a speculative asset who is. Is can probably work for them and could turn out to be really good. Might not matter. It's still like, overvaluing the guys that they like, which I got to take the guys that you like, but still, [00:40:27] Speaker B: like, I would imagine, I would imagine that they were higher on Everett, that they were higher on Muhammad, that they were higher on maybe Vigilian, Neil Davison, Igbo soon. And all those guys were off the board. So with the way that the draft went, I think that they got kind of stuck. Hold. Stuck holding. [00:40:50] Speaker A: Like when they took Ambry Thomas because the Stanford corner went off the board and they went, well, we actually wanted to draft the Stanford corner, but Ambry Thomas was next. Almost an explicit quote from John lynch of just, well, use next on our board. [00:41:03] Speaker B: You got to do it now. [00:41:04] Speaker A: Just. Yeah, I'm not impressed with their process in this draft. [00:41:08] Speaker B: It didn't change. How could you be impressed with it? We've never been impressed with it, and it didn't change. [00:41:12] Speaker A: It felt like they learned literally nothing whatsoever, that they just did things the way they have done them, with conviction [00:41:23] Speaker B: and consensus, and that's what we learned. At least we learned something. By the way, rookie ota, it gets a C only because they nailed it on height, and I think they nailed it on Halton, which it's like, those are good picks. They have a couple A's in there. I think that striblings like a B. Couple B's. Late. Right? Like, Ruiz is A. He's fine. Like, that's fine. Who else? I mean, who was the penultimate pick? Apologies. [00:41:55] Speaker A: The penultimate. Let me pick it up. Gotta look at our own. [00:41:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm sorry. Cruise. Cruise was A, is A. [00:42:03] Speaker A: Sure. [00:42:03] Speaker B: Yeah. Cruise is a B, but like, Cruises fine. [00:42:06] Speaker A: And Dugger. [00:42:07] Speaker B: F grade for Dugger. [00:42:09] Speaker A: Yeah. I was frankly, like, F C grade for. [00:42:14] Speaker B: Yeah, C grade for price Sock. [00:42:16] Speaker A: Maybe I would go, I would go, I would go C minus to D plus for price Sock. But because of where you put him, it could, it could work out. So I'll give him a C minus. [00:42:26] Speaker B: Black is like a D plus C minus. Even though I get it. [00:42:31] Speaker A: Like, I don't have a single. The only guy that's close to an A grade is your mellow height. [00:42:37] Speaker B: Oh, I, I, I do think Halton's an a grade at 107. [00:42:42] Speaker A: I, I would give it a B, but that's because he's I think he has limitations that are under undervalued. [00:42:49] Speaker B: Fair. [00:42:50] Speaker A: I hate the way he's like, stiff. He doesn't turn a corner well, but then there's. Sometimes you're like, oh, my God, he's a difference maker. Day one. [00:42:57] Speaker B: They're just going to give him 93 and you'll never know that Kalia Davis ever left. It's pretty straightforward. [00:43:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:05] Speaker B: That's just what it will be. He has to grow dreadlocks now. Sorry. Well, that's the end of the show. [00:43:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Sorry. Sorry for the bleak stream. But we did it. We made it through. [00:43:14] Speaker B: I want to tell you, we are in no way the bleakest. It is the anger. I'm off Twitter. I'm done, y'. [00:43:22] Speaker A: All. Yeah. Last question before we get out. How many picks would they have to hit on to be. For this to be successful? They would have to find two guys who play major roles this year and on the whole, like four who play substantial roles over the next, like three years to say it's successful because it is a bad draft. But I would say you need to find at least four guys that you're like, oh, those are good players. [00:43:48] Speaker B: I would say. I would say that they'd have to feel they would have to get early returns on all three of their first three picks. [00:43:57] Speaker A: I think dribbling won't have early returns, frankly. [00:44:00] Speaker B: We'll see. We'll see. Gold star. I mean, who else? What other gold stars they bring in? [00:44:04] Speaker A: He'll play a little bit, but, like, they've got a lot anyway. [00:44:08] Speaker B: I mean, Ricky Pearsall's eager to give him playing time. Height, I think is going to be a home run because he's put in the perfect role right away. Totally black. Black will probably get his opportunity. [00:44:24] Speaker A: And then I think with Jordan James, [00:44:28] Speaker B: well, you know, they really like him. I think they need to hit on the first three and then just find one more because be it Halton or Cruz or Duggar or Price or Willis, they just have to hit on one more and then that's a good draft. [00:44:42] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:43] Speaker B: So. [00:44:44] Speaker A: All right, let's get out of here. We will update the guide. [00:44:48] Speaker B: We are Jake's. Jake's hot on it. He's doing it. We're still searching very, very deep to find any Jaden Duggar film that can justify selection. The NFL draft. Maybe we'll find it. We probably won't. And we'll talk later, later this week about something. Who's to say what it is? [00:45:05] Speaker A: Bye, Udfa is baby. See you folks. [00:45:24] Speaker B: Dieter And Hutch, we are the number one. Chonkers. The sea lion appreciation podcast here on YouTube and all fine podcast platforms. Jake, we're doing one of the most important shows of the year this year. Crucial UDFA rankings. [00:45:42] Speaker A: That's right. That's right. [00:45:45] Speaker B: This is why you stick around. This is why you pay money. [00:45:48] Speaker A: You know what I'm going to tell you. [00:45:49] Speaker B: What a crop. [00:45:50] Speaker A: What a crop. We have. [00:45:52] Speaker B: Crop. And you know what? We joke. I legitimately mean this. The Niners draft looks so much better if you just remove all the numbers. Like, if you were like, hey, Carver Willis, that doesn't make sense. But you were to just throw in a UDFA, you'd be like, yeah, I kind of get it. [00:46:08] Speaker A: 100%. 100%. It's. [00:46:11] Speaker B: It's pretty good. [00:46:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I like. I like almost everybody on the list in some respect, in some form or fashion. [00:46:17] Speaker B: Yeah, let's just get right into it. Let's rank them. Let's rank some boys. [00:46:23] Speaker A: So who's. [00:46:24] Speaker B: You want to start from the bottom of the top? Your call. [00:46:26] Speaker A: So here's the thing. How do we want to do this? Because there's two ways to rank them, and I have them ranked in two ways. There's likelihood to make the roster and there's like, quality of the actual player. So which direction are we trying to go here? [00:46:38] Speaker B: I think we should be more practical. I think that we should understand what it is that people need. And we should go by height. No, I'm kidding. We should go by. By likelihood of making the roster. So obviously now we're taking into account position, need and quality inherent in the player who is the least likely to make this roster. Jake? [00:47:01] Speaker A: I would say Will Pauling, wide receiver out of Notre Dame. That's not even to say I hate Will Paul. He's got. He had a weird situation where he broke out for Wisconsin, had like a fantastic year. I was watching his tape. They were throwing him the ball every time. Loved him every single play. Very athletic, very snappy, can kind of route people up, can also get going. Like, you could throw him a little hitch and he can run. So that's not to say he can't make the roster. I just think with the wide receiver room as it is and the fact that he's five, nine and a guy who could just dropped the ball constantly. And that's not to say I care that much about drops, but as an undrafted free agent, you can't. So I think he's very unlikely to make the roster for that reason. He is fun. He Is fun though. [00:47:56] Speaker B: Part of me wonders if this guy is in fact their kick and punt returner. That's the only way he makes the team. [00:48:03] Speaker A: Yeah, my. So the problem with that is one, the hands and to the fact that he didn't return at all. Like I went and I looked because I was like, in my head, I'm like, oh, right, this is 5, 10 receiver to make the team. Didn't return anything in college. So. [00:48:20] Speaker B: But he's like, you watch him and you're like, he could do that. [00:48:24] Speaker A: Right. But I guess they should be returning. You should. That's. That's your whole route at that size is to just go the Caden region route known as Caden region. But like that's the route and the fact that he hasn't done that. That's why I have him at 8. You know, he did have any sort of track record there. I'd probably move him at least to seven. [00:48:44] Speaker B: Right. I think that that's fair. Again, you watch it and you think, oh, this guy, as you just said, should absolutely be at least a punt returner. But if they don't trust his hands to return punts, what's Kyle Shanahan going to do with them? It's not like he was some elite route runner or, you know, there, there wasn't a lot to go off of. And I agree with you though. Yeah, yeah. [00:49:08] Speaker A: 2023 tape and having fun watching it. He's a true slot. [00:49:13] Speaker B: What's that going to do for you in San Francisco? Like, honestly, like, what's Will Pauling doing signing with San Francisco? If he had other options, I would have taken the other options. I know 13 personnel is all the rage, but like Kyle ain't running 11. [00:49:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Maybe him and Trent Taylor can. Can battle it out for boy, whatever that job is, he better get really [00:49:34] Speaker B: into like pop country real fast. He better, you know, have strong opinions on which Morgan Wallen song sounds the least same. Like that's the only way that you're going to do it. Maybe it works out for him that way. You can make a good deal of money that way. In fact, by just being a good golf pro. Who is second least likely? [00:49:54] Speaker A: I would say the other wide receiver, Wesley Grimes. [00:49:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:57] Speaker A: At events State who did not produce. Just did not produce. Was a bit player for NC State. I will say he can move, he can scoot a little bit. For a guy at six two, doesn't block all that well. You keep watching, you're like, why are you a bit player at a bit school? That's not that good. He can release vertically pretty well. Absolutely terrible at breaking out of his routes. Like almost to a full stop and go. [00:50:30] Speaker B: Yes. [00:50:31] Speaker A: And you watch in slow motion. [00:50:33] Speaker B: Well, yeah, there's no way they couldn't be loopy. But like I watched him run some just quick outs and they were not quick outs, they were slow. [00:50:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:41] Speaker B: Sort of kind of posts. [00:50:42] Speaker A: It's, you know how. I mean, you have kids but like it's. You know how if you were to show a kid a video of someone running routes, they would do the thing where they're almost in slow motion and like stopping and they're sort of like accentuating the thing. It's a little bit like that where it's like he. That's what he thinks it's supposed to look like. [00:51:00] Speaker B: Right. [00:51:00] Speaker A: He's not actually doing the thing. [00:51:02] Speaker B: Yeah. I will say he has a pretty impressive catch radius. The quarterback for State. Awful. And he was just throwing it up there and he was like, I guess I'm going to catch this, but I have a very hard time. First off, stunned, legitimately stunned to see 6 foot 2, 193 pounds. You watch him and you're like, this guy's 5, 9, 5 10. [00:51:22] Speaker A: Yeah, I was like, I was like 5, 11, 6 foot flat. [00:51:25] Speaker B: He has a legitimate. This is an ick thing for me. This is not a real thing, but a legitimate ick thing. His head looks too big. Like his head looks too big for the body. I just can't get over it. There's certain NFL characteristics. One of them isn't giant head. He looks like he's wearing. He looks like he's wearing the helmet. [00:51:45] Speaker A: Brian Robinson hat. [00:51:47] Speaker B: Right? [00:51:47] Speaker A: The big hat. [00:51:48] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, yes, he looks like he's wearing that. He looks like he's wearing the, the. It's not even the guardian cap. They had one that was like even before that. The super duper big helmet that Aaron Rodgers wore for like a day one time that made him look like Gizmo from the Jetsons. Like that's what it looks like he's wearing. I know he isn't because then you zoom in, you're like a normal helmet, just tiny, tiny body. Somehow 6 foot, 293 pounds. I don't think he's going to make it. [00:52:16] Speaker A: He's got some run after catch. I think he will have some fun moments in training camp and probably, maybe, yeah, probably won't make the practice squad, but we'll see. Maybe in college even a little bit. [00:52:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't think he's going to be around for that long. [00:52:31] Speaker A: I mean, does it even. Yeah. [00:52:33] Speaker B: Does he take Malik Turner's job? Probably not, no. [00:52:37] Speaker A: Because Malik Turner is a special teams ace. [00:52:39] Speaker B: So as we saw for one game last year. [00:52:41] Speaker A: That's right. [00:52:42] Speaker B: Okay. [00:52:42] Speaker A: Third, number six is going to shock you. [00:52:45] Speaker B: Lay it on me, baby. [00:52:47] Speaker A: It's Mikhail Camara out of Indiana who is. Was almost borderline a seventh round capable guy. I, I think he should be an undrafted free agent. I compared him to Ronald Blair. He is very much a tweener of like a defensive tackle who's playing edge right. Of. He's going to set the edge. He's going to do a lot of dirty work for you. He does not have a deep bag. He's got some strength. He will hold up probably in the run game and coaches will really like him and he will stick around on the practice squad. They will get him up for some games probably at some point in the season when somebody goes down. But the fact that the Niners drafted Romello Height, I just don't see any. Unless, like, you know, Mikel is out to start the season. I, I think it's going to be very hard for him to make the roster. [00:53:40] Speaker B: What about Bradley King? Is he. [00:53:42] Speaker A: William Bradley King? [00:53:44] Speaker B: Like. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, he's gonna have to really explore. He'll get a lot of reps in preseason, I imagine. I'm sure that he'll get written up for having a really good preseason and then will be unceremoniously cut. [00:53:58] Speaker A: They'll be stoked to have him on the practice squad and they'll be like, they're gonna worry about it. They'll get him up for a couple games during the year and, and I like him. Listen, like, I, I like having a player like that, but there's no real explosive traits. He's sort of a tweener and it's. He's just going to try and going to have to make a career as a rotational guy who sets the edge in the run game and, and maybe develops a power rush. But there's not a lot to chew on. [00:54:24] Speaker B: I think I just fundamentally don't understand why this young man would sign with a team that clearly runs wide 9 when the tight front. And so, oh, yeah, the mod. He's a perfect four. He's a perfect four technique in the same way that Kaden Proctor, the other Caden Proctor, the Southeast Louisiana Proctor, Caleb Proctor. Thank you. Yeah, he. He's a perfect four. Like undersized. Undersized. Three techniques who aren't tall to be able to play the five. Like, there's a technique for you, young man. It's called four. And they run it in the NFL kind of more frequently than ever. I mean, maybe not since like the 60s, but like, teams are running it. Denver Broncos, they'll run it. Ravens this year, I think, are going to run it. The Rams, I think, are going to run it even more this upcoming year. Vic fan, any Vic Fangio defense is going to run a 4.04at times. Brandon Staley's running it with the Saints, by the way. Guess where he went. So, like, this is where. Where Jonathan Gannon end up again? Green Bay. [00:55:34] Speaker A: That sounds right. Yeah. [00:55:35] Speaker B: Guess who's. Guess who's going to be running a tight front now. Green Bay Packers. So it's a little surprising. Little surprising because he would. He. I think he would really fit that mold. He's a good football player. I just think that he's been cast in the wrong role for the 49ers. [00:55:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Number five. Yeah. Bryson Eason, which might be a shocker for me, but I think because you draft Grayson Halton, that's like the role. Right. And why do you need another one who's like a little worse, a little stumpier? Pure Stump Chuggins is the stump chuggins of Stump Juggins is. [00:56:14] Speaker B: It's again shocking measurables at 6, 3, 2, 90. Because you could have convinced me there's no 511, £400. [00:56:22] Speaker A: He's 6 3. [00:56:23] Speaker B: I. I don't know. It's Tennessee. Nothing at that program could be taken seriously under any circumstances. He's listed at 6, 3, 2, 90, which is like four technique again. Right. Like, that's undersized three tech. You watch. [00:56:35] Speaker A: Okay. He's six two. He. He waited. He. He's six two. [00:56:38] Speaker B: Okay. [00:56:38] Speaker A: That's at least a little bit. 6, 2, 3, 23. [00:56:43] Speaker B: 323. Jesus. Yeah. So that. Yeah. By the way, 6, 2, 3, 23. That means that he is the same height as Wesley grimes and weighs 130 pounds more. Correct. Which. [00:57:00] Speaker A: Correct. [00:57:01] Speaker B: Awesome. That's fantastic. I want those two. [00:57:04] Speaker A: His arms aren't that short, actually. Like, he's not. Like the length is decent and there's. There's something there. But he is a worse version of Grayson Halton and he's trying to shoot up field with far less burst and gets cleared out of gaps way too often. But sometimes you're like, who? I liked it. I liked it a lot. [00:57:23] Speaker B: Same. I. He didn't end up in our draft guide because it was clearly just not a draftable player and we had to pick our battles. But I remember watching him a lot being like, I kind of want to do it. I kind of want to put him in there. [00:57:41] Speaker A: He, he was, he was one of the last guys that didn't make the cut because I was like, yeah, it was like, respect 100%. But we got, we got plenty of notes on him. The other guy, the next guy on the list is, is in that same vein. James Thompson, defensive tackle out of Illinois. [00:57:59] Speaker B: You like Thompson more than Eason? [00:58:01] Speaker A: No, I don't. I don't. [00:58:05] Speaker B: But you think that Thompson is more likely than Eason. [00:58:08] Speaker A: I think Thompson is more likely than Eason on pure size. And the fact that Alfred Collins, if there's some injury concerns and all that, he sort of fills the void of you're just, I'm large. I'm going to stand here and be large. That's the job. That's the role. He's I think six foot six. Yeah. I didn't love his tape, but there were times where you're like, oh, people can't go past it. [00:58:34] Speaker B: No, he was great at Wisconsin. Illinois was up and down. He was noteworthy. This isn't to say good or bad, just noteworthy. At the Shrine bowl, there's a lot of James Thompson, just a lot of them. [00:58:48] Speaker A: Right. [00:58:48] Speaker B: Couldn't quite figure out if that's again a good or a bad thing, but boy, did you notice them. Which might be the entire name of the game in 2026. Is it good, Is it bad? Nothing has meaning anymore. Was the attention given. And yes, he deserved attention in those practices in that game. So. [00:59:06] Speaker A: Also ran like a 5 second 40 yard dash with like a pretty sick broad jump. [00:59:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Which tell he's an athlete. Yeah. [00:59:14] Speaker A: He's like not like he's not like an Evan Anderson. You all know what that means. He's, he's like a strong large dude. I just don't think there's a lot of technique or consistently consistency pad levels just all over the place. Sometimes you're like, ooh, I like it. But I watched him. I was underwhelmed. I went to write an eval and I went, I not going to waste my time here. He's clearly an undrafted free agent. There might be something there, but not enough for me to chew on. And here we are today talking about [00:59:46] Speaker B: him chewing on it, baby. [00:59:48] Speaker A: I think because there's a little bit there because of the size and because of like Alfred Collins's issues, I would say he's likelier than Eason and Kamara. [01:00:01] Speaker B: Okay. So there's three left on the board. My accurately representing that. That's right. Who is third most likely in this case to make the roster? [01:00:15] Speaker A: I'm going to. You know, I have it on my board and I'm actually going to switch this live. I'm going to go number three, Jack Boo Meister. Boom. Easter Hunter out of Texas. Who I I. There's something there, man. [01:00:29] Speaker B: Yeah, he can boot it. [01:00:30] Speaker A: Actually, number two on my board, I'm moving him down one just because it's a rookie punter and I think there's a little scar tissue there that's going to hold that back, but it is. He's not going against an incumbent, right? No. [01:00:43] Speaker B: Yeah. He might be going up against a guy who's literally a placeholder. [01:00:47] Speaker A: So I think also. Hold shot. He can't hold. I was watching the holds. He's spinning it. Laces out, baby. Laces out. I probably watch more tape on him than anybody else. I was watching Texas special teams tape and I was like, ooh. Like, I don't think it's the biggest leg, but he's consistently from his own goal line, putting it at the opposing 40. And I'm like, that's fine. That'll do. [01:01:11] Speaker B: That's. That's a Kyle Shanahan special teamer if I've ever heard one. [01:01:14] Speaker A: And anyone anywhere from his own 40 to the opponent's 40, consistently dropping it right around the 10. [01:01:21] Speaker B: That's his big thing. He's very accurate. Yeah. [01:01:24] Speaker A: And had a weird little, like, line drive one sort of like a squib punt. I don't know that he's going to be using that in the league, but it kind of worked. Where everyone's going, right, they're set up on that side, dangerous returner, and you go, you know what? I'm just going to. I'm just going to squib it to the left, roll it down there about 40 yards and see and see what happens. [01:01:45] Speaker B: I'm not going to lie. I haven't watched a punter in about two and a half months. I did watch them and I did get Bo Meester because he's one of the six punters that I watch. Is he Aussie style? I don't mean like a rollout, then a kick? [01:01:59] Speaker A: I don't think so. He was not rolling out. He was not on the move. He's. He's more of a traditional puncher. [01:02:05] Speaker B: Oh, boy. That's the. I like that. [01:02:07] Speaker A: I liked him. He's so much fun. Yeah. I only want to go to training camp to watch a punter battle. I'm dead serious. [01:02:14] Speaker B: I'm not joking either. [01:02:16] Speaker A: What do you think that we're going [01:02:17] Speaker B: to be locked in on? Everyone's going to be watching these scrimmages and being like, I don't know, how does the left guard situation look? It's like, we know, we know. What's really important is what's happening on this side field is these two guys just go at it and John Weeks, the beautiful fire hydrant of a man, snap some footballs. That's what I'm into, baby. [01:02:36] Speaker A: So I'm with you. I'm okay. Everybody else is going to be talking about Jaden Duggar. They're going to be like, oh, Jaden Duggar's really showing out. [01:02:42] Speaker B: Really flashing. [01:02:44] Speaker A: Right. Because he runs fast. What do you know? I got. I mean, I can predict. We can. That'll be another episode. We'll predict everything that. [01:02:52] Speaker B: Oh, the things. [01:02:53] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. The guy who's like, immediately cuttable, who fans are like, oh, what are we doing? Why are we cutting this guy? Because he's not good. He's not good. [01:03:03] Speaker B: Yeah, because this is not a proper facsimile of an NFL football game. [01:03:07] Speaker A: Right. Oh, because no one's. Because no one's playing tackle. And he ran 11 yards untouched in a non tackle situation. [01:03:15] Speaker B: It's all about closing speed. And it's like, yeah, but if your play is over before the second anyone touches you, you're not good at football. Go play for the US Flag football team. [01:03:27] Speaker A: And I'm not. [01:03:27] Speaker B: That is your calling. [01:03:28] Speaker A: I'm not blaming anybody for getting excited because it's fun to get excited. It's fun to go to the camp. There's a little burst there. [01:03:34] Speaker B: We could be wrong. [01:03:35] Speaker A: You just like, people will get excited about the wrong thing because that's the only day they're there for whatever. I'm just telling you, that's a tough. The takes will be wrong. [01:03:43] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:03:43] Speaker A: And they will be silly and people will. And. And I'm mostly talking about the people that farm for engagement and talk about a guy who's clearly not going to make the team and then like to make a stink out of it because that's a way to make. [01:03:54] Speaker B: I mean, I don't know. I don't know. You're talking about. I never saw some videos. Anyway, Matt Hennessy was the answer. [01:04:00] Speaker A: I can't. I can't do it. [01:04:01] Speaker B: He's gonna be a problem, Jake. And you. And I immediately said yes. But not in the way you're thinking. Sorry, safeties. [01:04:09] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm gonna go with number two. Is the safety out of Notre Dame? I almost put him one. It's just in terms of, like. Anyway, we'll get into the next. But Jalen. [01:04:20] Speaker B: Do you like Jalen Strowman? [01:04:22] Speaker A: I like that he flashed on the tape. I watched him against Miami, and he pops off. It's a question of, like, he doesn't. Like he's stiff. Like. Like in the short area, he doesn't move all that well. Yeah. And I don't. Like, he doesn't flip his hips. He looks like he's struggling a little bit. But against, like, Miami, he made, like, the first five tackles of the game. Very decisive downhill, great frame plays. Press like, can do a little bit of slot in the press against bigger guys pretty well. I just don't know, like, this is a team that needs, like, a free safety, and I don't know that this is the answer. He feels more big box safety come downhill, fit the run. And, you know, I saw a play where he ran with a vertical route, but it also took him a second to get going. That's my little bit of stiffness there. There's not a lot of long speed. Safety is a position where that doesn't always matter as much. But I have him at number two just because I think I like the size. They could probably use some depth there, and I wouldn't be shocked if he's pretty good on special teams. Yes. With that size and the directness he triggers to the ball without hesitation. In a way, I really appreciate it. [01:05:33] Speaker B: I don't know. I saw a lot of false steps, to be honest. I think he sees it. I'm not sure he can get there. That's, you know, one half of the ball game. Right. Being able to see it's one half. But it's not like Notre Dame's running something crazy. They had a very. They have a very pro style defense. And I'm with you, 100 within 20 yards, he's going to make his money. I think he's a really good zone player. I think he's going to have some real problems with. Man, I'm not sure that's that big of an issue in a Raheem Morris defense, but when you see the false steps, it's just a big red flag for me. Linebacker, especially when you're effectively a linebacker. When, again, I keep talking about Jane Ducker, all I see are false steps [01:06:17] Speaker A: moving him back to number three. As we talk about him yeah, that's right. [01:06:20] Speaker B: That's right. Punters through. Which means that our man Khalil Dinkins is number one. [01:06:28] Speaker A: Yeah, I, I wouldn't say he's my man. [01:06:31] Speaker B: Well, he, he is their man. He seems to be the only man available. [01:06:36] Speaker A: Probably good. He could. He's got a really good chance to make the roster because they didn't draft the tight end and he sort of fits what they do. And what I mean is that he's a little too lean. He doesn't really drive people off the ball. He's kind of fallen all over the place. But he's athletic. He's got good length. I think he's got upside as a move blocker. Yeah, I really like the athleticism. I'm really frustrated watching him because they play him in line and you're like, why are you on the ground? Why. Why is one hand to your hip throwing you asunder? So he's a frustrating player to watch and also the most likely to make the roster based on how the tight end room is constructed. [01:07:22] Speaker B: Crazy athleticism, actually. 10 yard split of 1732 inch vertical. Can he move? Yeah, he can. It just doesn't look like he was meant to play football. That makes sense. Like, it feels like he's. It feels like he was born to be, you know, shout out to your shirt like Derek Coleman in the mid-90s with the new Jersey Nets, where it's just, you know. Yeah, let me post up on you. [01:07:47] Speaker A: He is, he is like the peak. Like, we need it. We need just like a power forward who just jumps at the rim. Like basically Gary Payton ii, except your power forward. That's what he should be. [01:07:59] Speaker B: I. It wouldn't shock me at all if it, if it clicked for him. But Penn State's offense was abysmal. Absolutely laughable how bad that offense is that's going to be held against him. [01:08:14] Speaker A: I wish his name wasn't Dinkins. I know that's unfair to say. [01:08:19] Speaker B: It's a tough last name. Take it from Dieter. [01:08:21] Speaker A: Just in terms of vibe, you're like Dinkins. Like, you can hear the coach yelling at him more than you can hear somebody getting excited. I know that's extremely dumb. [01:08:29] Speaker B: It's not a cool name. Dinkins. I mean, it legit sounds like a character of like the Poindexter. [01:08:38] Speaker A: It's an unfair criticism, but in the, in the scope of the entire vibe, it doesn't help is what I'm saying. [01:08:44] Speaker B: I just, I didn't. There's not a lot of tape to go off of him as a pass catcher and the stuff that is there, it just takes forever. [01:08:54] Speaker A: He's not a clean route runner. I did see a nice catch where [01:08:57] Speaker B: he, I think, I think he has soft hands. [01:09:00] Speaker A: Yeah, I think he does have good hands. There was a ball. He got out of his route terribly slipped, but got back up. And then there was a hit coming against Oregon and he turned his back to, like, protect himself from the hip hit and caught it in traffic. I was impressed by that. Again, the movement and athleticism is worth buying in on. As a udfa, like, I, I completely get it, but this kid needs coaching. He needs a lot of coaching. And I, I think he's going to be a frustrating guy in camp where you're like, the coach is like, nope. Cameron Clemens. Good, good, good. Time to, like, show that you were worth, you know, becoming the tight ends coach. [01:09:37] Speaker B: Yes. This is your chance to be fair. His dad, former NFL tight end Daryl Darnell Dinkins, his brother played safety at Penn State. You can tell. I'm just reading a scouting report here, you know, 37 receptions, but there's not, There are some nice athletic numbers. This is not like George Kittle athletic numbers. [01:09:59] Speaker A: It's not fluid. [01:10:01] Speaker B: No, it's just, he doesn't. [01:10:03] Speaker A: And, you know, I will say there's effort. [01:10:06] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, it's just good, good effort. Good blocker, especially in the run game. [01:10:12] Speaker A: Good, good, good move blocker, like, fine. Finds at least a hand on somebody in space. Well, it's, it's. But it's a little like Michael Trigg in that you're like, you don't really know how to use your arms all that well in tight space. Like, he doesn't get. Doesn't land all that well. And. Yeah, and he's so, he's so lean that he's like, at this sort of angle. You know, it's like this, like his lower half is. It's not. I want it more like this where there's a little bit of forward lean and, and he's more balanced, but it's a little bit like he's straining, which means he's out over his skis and somebody can rip off of him pretty easily because he doesn't. He's got a, he's got a lean lower half, which, in terms of like, base and setting your feet and driving, I worry about a little bit. [01:10:58] Speaker B: But it's, it's the year for the wide tight end. It's the year for the move. And if you can block as a move tight end, you're Going to make yourself a lot of money in this league. And we're going to find out, and I mean this earnestly, within about 10 minutes of the start of rookie OTAs, if this kid's got the juice or not. Because if he goes out there on air and is running good routes and looks fast and big, and then you're like, let's boogie right in the same way that Mason Plein gets into those drills, and you're like, nope, not a chance. Good try, but nope. I know what NFL looks like, and that ain't it. It's the Potter Stewart argument. I know it when I see it. There are just certain. You know, obviously there are levels to it, but there is just a certain threshold of crispness and pop and athleticism, and it's just apparent. And we're gonna, again, we're gonna find out the second that they get into their drills. Tight ends, let's go past, you know, catch some passes, and Braden Willis is going to be out there for no good reason still. And yeah, they'll be running through. I mean, I imagine they'll bring in another couple tight ends or whatever to get it all sorted. [01:12:03] Speaker A: Probably won't. [01:12:04] Speaker B: Well, then they'll be out there with the receivers, and it's going to be even easier to contrast. Right. So you know who's going to be [01:12:09] Speaker A: with the tight ends is Dijon stribling. They're like, strip, get over here. Show them how it's done. [01:12:14] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. But. And like, this is why this rookie minicamp is there, because, okay, we're bringing them in. The tape doesn't show, and there's always one or two guys where you're like, oh, yeah, we got it, we got it. We're going to make things simple for them because we're not asking them. You know, this guy was supposed to replace Tyler Warren. How's that going to work? This guy's not Tyler Warren. So he's asked to do all the same stuff, different OC but like, he's the Tyler Warren replacement. That. That went over like gangbusters. That was horrible. That wasn't fair to Khalil Dinkins. And so now it's like, all you need to do is come in in sub package plays in like 12 personnel. Actually, you know what? The plays that we were going to do, move motion or cheat motion with Kyle Jus. Check. We're just going to do that with you coming across the line on a [01:13:04] Speaker A: trap block and just survive. Just survive. Like, don't get thrown to the ground until the running Back is by you. [01:13:10] Speaker B: And every now and again, you're going to leak out, can you do that for us? And they'll find out within 10 minutes of having him on a practice field if he can do that for him, because it's a very simple job. And you'll be able to see if he can do that, and we can build from there, but you got to be able to do that. And within 10 minutes, we'll know if he can do that or not. Which is why I'm excited for next weekend. Not this upcoming, but the next one. In the meantime, though, Jake, do you expect anyone to be signed to this roster, as you have noted 100 times over, accurately, faithfully in your reporting duties, comp picks no longer in play. Are the Niners going to sign anyone whose name that you, I, the sickos in the audience, have heard of before between now and next weekend in the start of rookie OTAs? [01:14:02] Speaker A: My gut says no. [01:14:04] Speaker B: Yeah, it's my gut, too. Yeah, dude, I'm gonna go with a no Deer. [01:14:09] Speaker A: You know, I like when you feel like that's a really good question, and it's a no, but let me, let me explain why it's a no. Yeah, I just, it, it feels like, I think they want to see how, how that goes. I mean, they'll probably bring in, like, another kick return option at some point. They'll almost assuredly bring in a bad veteran safety. All that sort of stuff there. Is there. I mean, what's a guarantee is that they'll bring in safety after safety after safety. [01:14:38] Speaker B: Boy, howdy, are they ever gonna. [01:14:40] Speaker A: I've heard of that guy. Any last. [01:14:42] Speaker B: They're gonna run through some safeties, and I, I, I need to just pull it up where. I mean, tight end. I think they probably bring in a couple. [01:14:51] Speaker A: Yeah, they need, they need at least one more body, I think. [01:14:57] Speaker B: Running back. I know that Sincere McCormick is coming on down. [01:15:00] Speaker A: Yes, they signed. So that's, I mean, that's your return. That's a, that's a return option, right? [01:15:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Theoretically, yes. Wow. This is, this is a dire situation. We're talking sincere McCormick, huh? Who would, who would still be available at safety? [01:15:21] Speaker A: I guess Junior Bergen is still on, on the roster, buddy. I didn't. [01:15:26] Speaker B: Ralph Wiggum. Ralph Wiggum in the back. Back of the bus. [01:15:29] Speaker A: He's also still on the team is Nick Sakel. [01:15:33] Speaker B: That's wild. Okay, here are the safeties that are still available. Xavier Woods, 30, maybe. Taylor Rapp, Cal Guy, 28 years old. Isaiah Oliver. Yeah, no, we're not doing that. Ashton Davis, also a cow guy. [01:15:55] Speaker A: Yep. [01:15:55] Speaker B: Here we go. [01:15:56] Speaker A: So I remember that was when I went to the combine. I interviewed him and I was like, oh, maybe this kid's the truth. Not the truth. [01:16:01] Speaker B: Not the truth. Not the truth. I think he's on his third team. [01:16:04] Speaker A: He was a useful rotation player. [01:16:06] Speaker B: What about 31 year old Chuck Clark? Yeah. No, again, yeah, it's. [01:16:13] Speaker A: I think we're done here. [01:16:14] Speaker B: What about Dion Bush? Who? Some. I covered Dion Bush when he was in high school. He's now 32 years old. Jesus Christ. You feel well, can't make me feel any worse than I currently feel. That's my baseline. Bring back George Odom. Just played for the sure Colts. Terrell Edmonds, Nothing. [01:16:37] Speaker A: Certainly some names. [01:16:38] Speaker B: Rayshawn Jenkins. Second. Second reference to that in this show. [01:16:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I think they'll probably bring in another veteran safety, another tight end. I think they're at 90 at this point. [01:16:53] Speaker B: Oh, that's a great question. If only we had some sort of an interactive depth chart that we could use first. [01:16:59] Speaker A: First we're going to get the entire rookie class done and then the interactive depth chart will be up, which will be really fun during training camp. And I'll figure out a way where it will be. One, it'll be added to the website. And two, I actually built it a few weeks ago, but I just need to clean some stuff up now. [01:17:15] Speaker B: Can we get. Can we get as part of the depth chart the irrational hype meter and just have it as like a little bar underneath and we just. Totally subjective, just social media feel on the matter. [01:17:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Irrational Sick O meter. [01:17:33] Speaker B: Sick O meter. But here's the thing. Sickos, Sickos and irrational hype are not. Sickos are entirely rationed. They're deeply rational. Rational to a fault, in fact. [01:17:44] Speaker A: Right. [01:17:44] Speaker B: They seize it for what it is. [01:17:46] Speaker A: Right. We're looking for legendary revenge tour energy. Remember that? Remember the legendary Revenge tour, everybody. Remember that. [01:17:57] Speaker B: I'm so glad you brought it up because I'm thinking that that might be a quarterly gift where we get T shirts. Legendary vengeance. [01:18:09] Speaker A: Or it's just a legendary revenge tour. But it's like, you know, like a band T shirt. Yeah. It's where you just keep crossing off the year. It's like where somebody gets a tattoo and they're like they're really gonna win it this year and they just keep crossing it off. Yeah. [01:18:21] Speaker B: The legendary revenge tour 2026, which, by the way, is the name of the Dieter and Hutch on the road tour for this upcoming season. [01:18:29] Speaker A: Yeah. We're gonna. We're gonna be filming with the Antiques Roadshow. [01:18:34] Speaker B: I would say that this tight end is worth, oh, roughly four or five million dollars. There was once a time before there was some damage, that 20, 25 million. Now just, you know. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Well, we got him in a flea market, so big win we did. [01:18:52] Speaker A: It was a steal. [01:18:53] Speaker B: I love watching antique, like, Antiques Roadshow hits real hard on, like, Instagram shorts. [01:19:00] Speaker A: That's where you see. You see somebody who's just, like, being told that the little. Little object that's been in their family for, yeah, 100 years is worth, yeah, $27,000. [01:19:12] Speaker B: What do you mean? This painting that called to me at the Goodwill in Santa Fe, New Mexico, is worth 82K. Like, that's. That's the good stuff. And. And they. I'll tell you this, the PBS shorts, which apparently I am now being served, they don't do this new bullshit thing where they give away the punchline at the beginning and then do a quick reverse and replay the whole thing. Like, I'm not arguing that it's not a good tactic. I'm just arguing, like, isn't that the inverse of a joke now? Sorry. [01:19:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Speaking of Santa Fe, we are also both relocating to Santa Fe. The next time you see us, we will be adorned in jade. [01:19:54] Speaker B: So much turquoise. [01:19:56] Speaker A: So just turquoise, turquoise everywhere. Giant silver rings. [01:20:03] Speaker B: Visit Santa Fe legitimately. We. Let's do some sponsorships for visit Santa Fe and New Mexico. [01:20:10] Speaker A: Awesome. Weird place. It's worth. It's worth driving through. It's. The vibes are strange, but it's. It's. It's fun. [01:20:18] Speaker B: You ever been to Las Cruces, my man? [01:20:21] Speaker A: Driven through. Been to Albuquerque. [01:20:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Las Cruces. That's a spot. That's Aggies. Go ahead. Yeah. New Mexico State sponsor the show. All right. Yeah, I don't think that they're gonna add much, if anything. [01:20:35] Speaker A: No, but we will. [01:20:40] Speaker B: Yeah. So tell the folks what Sickos Football can do for them. [01:20:43] Speaker A: Yeah, Sickos Football. We will ideally, by the end of this week, have it updated. I'm not gonna update it until we have, like, full evals on all the players, because it's an even higher standard than the draft guide. [01:20:57] Speaker B: I mean, don't forget anyone who had the draft guide last year. There was the draft guide, which PDF. But if you printed it like Larry does. Did you see that, by the way? Larry printed out a Warren Sharp tweet, but it was still black, so it was just wet. It's just A wet piece of paper. It's incredible. It's a great start to a shank [01:21:15] Speaker A: that it never dries. [01:21:15] Speaker B: I know that he literally took the screenshot to take a photo of it. And I'm like, this man makes so much money on YouTube and I'm dying inside. But we love Larry and we're appreciative of him having me on the show and being able to cross stream it, even though every Tuesday morning I have to remove the copyright infringements. So that's super fun. Regardless. If you were to be a Larry and print out the entire draft guide last year, I would say it'd be about this thick. [01:21:46] Speaker A: 200 some 130 some pages, I think. [01:21:49] Speaker B: Yeah. The 49ers draft guide was like 60 flipping pages. It was huge. [01:21:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:21:55] Speaker B: On just the guys. The Niners did. We did pages and pages. It'll be a little bit harder and easier this year. Because it will. [01:22:01] Speaker A: Which is why there's a non zero chance it's next week. But we'll. I'll shoot for this week. But it's. [01:22:07] Speaker B: You'll have it before. We'll. We'll have it done before. Rookie. Rookie camp. [01:22:11] Speaker A: That's right. You. [01:22:12] Speaker B: You'll be well armed. And then after. [01:22:14] Speaker A: And to be clear, UDFAs will be in there. It gets. We get in detail, baby. [01:22:18] Speaker B: Do we ever. That's what the sickos demand. That's what we provide them. And then after that, we'll provide them [01:22:23] Speaker A: something else before chart. Interactive depth chart. Cool stuff. Yeah. We're going to make the website work for the season. Have it. Have utility. [01:22:35] Speaker B: Legendary revenge tour 2026 coming up. [01:22:38] Speaker A: All right, folks. [01:22:39] Speaker B: By.