Is the Draft Falling the Niners' Way?

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:06] Speaker B: Yes, sir. Dieter and Hutch, alive and kicking, unlike the San Jose Sharks, who are very dead. They're so dead, Jake. They couldn't be more dead. And by the end of this draft, saga, and I call it a saga, I think we'll be dead, too. But in the meantime, content must be made. Yeah, right. I mean, geez, that relinquish me from this mortal coil. There's, like, so much to get to but nothing to hook our teeth into. So I'm just going to do like a classic Larry bit right here and be like, did you see the latest mock draft that Field Yates put out? [00:00:44] Speaker A: I did not, no. [00:00:46] Speaker B: Nor should you, because who gives a shit? But the last time we talked, I told you that. And I. I want to be very clear. I took a week off from texting people, like, in general effect. I got like text toxicity in my body and I'm like, I'm done talking to people all day, and every day I'm done. My 3 year old won't shut the hell up. That's enough for me. So I just haven't texted anybody in like a week about anything. So I have no idea what's happening out in the world. That said, last time we talked, I told you that I was getting the sense that Kendrick Falk was falling down boards that people weren't as hot to trot as maybe the initial mock draft aggregation led it to believe. And I think my man Field Yates, who I do think legitimately does a very good job and is well sourced. I can attest to that firsthand. Had the Niners picking old Kendrick Falk at 27 today in his mock draft [00:01:53] Speaker A: because you've. You've used two first names for him and neither have been. [00:01:57] Speaker B: Is it Keldrick Falk? Kendrick Falk? What is it? [00:02:00] Speaker A: Yes, but it wouldn't. The bid will live or show if you got his name right. And I actually would prefer you continue to bit. [00:02:07] Speaker B: Kevin Falk, former Patriots running back, is out here, possibly draftable at 27. [00:02:13] Speaker A: I think it's a good move. [00:02:15] Speaker B: So. And there's. Let's. Let's pull it back for a second and I'll throw this your way. It does seem as if this draft at 27 is kind of breaking the Niners way. If the information that's starting to come together now kind of this second, maybe even third wave of opinion now that we have. You know, these boards are pretty solid, especially first round. I got four names that I feel like might not work out, but I feel like one of these four is going to be there for them. And that's Falk, which would be kind of a bold fall if he was ever really there. Casey Conception, who I'm like, I know that you're not as high on him as I am. I can't quit him. I can't quit them. There's something there. There's something there. [00:03:04] Speaker A: I think it's fine. I think it's underwhelming. I think it's an offense, you know, off the line line wide receiver who you're going to utilize closer to Debo than ever resembling a number one. And like Pierce all has like true like play the wide receiver position ability. [00:03:24] Speaker B: He. [00:03:25] Speaker A: Concepcion feels more gadgety to me. [00:03:30] Speaker B: Yes. [00:03:30] Speaker A: That said, in this draft, after you hit a certain point with wide receiver, it's like, what's even the point? [00:03:37] Speaker B: So we'll put a pin in that. Put a pin in that because I want to circle back on another wide receiver going back to field Yates thing. And then the other. The other two are Proctor, who you just get the full gambit of possibilities like pick 42, pick 12. Somewhere in the middle are the San Francisco 49ers. We're in a world where Monroe Freeling is like now in some weird group think being considered a top 10 pick. And it's like, oh, no one. As I've said a million times over, no one knows what the hell they're doing on offensive line. And someone's out there to prove it very vociferously. And then finally this will make you very happy. It does feel like Avion Terrell is going to be exceptionally available at 26. [00:04:18] Speaker A: Just gonna say I opened the draft and then he's just there at 32 for Seattle. If he's there, don't let. [00:04:26] Speaker B: Don't let that happen. [00:04:27] Speaker A: Draft Avion Terrell. Everyone should be fired. [00:04:33] Speaker B: That's how it keeps happening in a [00:04:35] Speaker A: weird draft class where there's like a lot of man. That's like one guy I have. I understand there's like some size concerns. I don't care. Dude plays ball. [00:04:45] Speaker B: Oh, he's a great player. [00:04:46] Speaker A: He's so good. Like, I don't understand why Mansoor Delane is viewed as like in a tier higher than him when Delane's not large. [00:04:55] Speaker B: Like, no, no, it. That isn't. That is a fair comparison. Delane is just smooth, man. Yeah, he's so. He's. He's silky. Like, he makes you feel good watching cut ups. That's why, man, sort of Delane's there also. His name Is Mansoor Delane. Like, that helps. It really helps. Chris Johnson, by the way, is as good as those other two guys. Like Chris Johnson. Another guy that I'm just. I. I'm incapable of quitting right now. I think his special teams tape made the rounds on Twitter recently, and it's just exceptional. And I love this guy. I've loved this guy since the first second I saw him. And that's a very rare thing in this current draft class where you're just like, oh, hell yeah. Usually you're like, I guess, I don't know, right. But any of those three guys is great. It's literally, they're ranked, as far as I can tell, by coolness of name, which is Mansoor Delane, Avian Terrell. Cool name. And then Chris Johnson. So Chris Johnson gets to go in the second round because he doesn't sound cool. Oh, my God. [00:06:00] Speaker A: Emmanuel Perignon at 55 to the Chargers would be. [00:06:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:05] Speaker A: So start levitating out of my chair. Sorry. [00:06:09] Speaker B: No one knows what the hell they're talking about with offensive line. And then did you see who the Niners took in the second round? This is another guy who over the last week, I'm really circling back to again and again. It's not sexy. I don't think it's flashy. I just think that he's going to be a pro for a decade and never give you any trouble at one and two. [00:06:34] Speaker A: Falcon and Jeremy Bernard. [00:06:36] Speaker B: And that's where I wanted to go to. Like, that would be that we've run through a lot of scenarios. Not that we're mocking or anything, but we've run through a lot of scenarios. Kind of hard to beat. Falk and Jeremy Bernard, one and two positions of need. Serious upside. I think Bernard is just an immediate fit. Backup X. He's kind of everything that it's not fair because you're talking like a second round pick to a fourth round pick. But he's everything that people said about Jordan Watkins. Like, oh, he can play all the positions and he's really smooth and like, he's a nice deep shot guy. Except this guy can block on top of that. And actually did all of those things at a much better level in the se. [00:07:17] Speaker A: Like, and it felt like part of the reason. And this, this is. Might just me be talking sideways. [00:07:24] Speaker B: That's all we're doing. [00:07:24] Speaker A: It felt like Alabama was such a mess from the jump that there was like a level of like, what are we doing here? [00:07:31] Speaker B: I don't. I don't understand. They had the Best quarterback in the draft. I heard on the Internet and television. [00:07:37] Speaker A: Dieter, let me tell you what. Not my QB one, two or three. [00:07:41] Speaker B: Not my QB one. Let's just lean right into that. [00:07:46] Speaker A: You, you. [00:07:47] Speaker B: You seem to taken have taken to a new quarterback. You have. [00:07:51] Speaker A: I have taken to a couple, but the one I, I put in my sub stack today. [00:07:57] Speaker B: Yeah, you've made them Art. [00:07:59] Speaker A: To be clear. To be clear. When we, when we put together like our notion board and we try and track everything, we take it like early in the process and then it inevitably it changes. But we go to like you know, mock mess, mock draft database because notion doesn't let you auto sort by number. You can't just swipe up and it drives me insane. I've tried to claude code it anyway. Yeah, because they're, because they're too evolved. They can't do numbers anyway. [00:08:26] Speaker B: It's fine. It's the last time they're getting our $12. [00:08:29] Speaker A: This guy, this. You want to talk about a guy? [00:08:33] Speaker B: Who are you talking about? [00:08:34] Speaker A: Talking about Baron Morton. [00:08:36] Speaker B: Baron Morton Tech. [00:08:37] Speaker A: Who My point ranked number 327 when we ingested this. Yes. Aggregate mock draft. Not. [00:08:46] Speaker B: Not draftable by the FA territory, baby. [00:08:51] Speaker A: Big fan. You want to know why I'm a big fan? [00:08:55] Speaker B: Actually, no. And we move on to the next segment. Of course. Tell me why. First off, what gra. Tell me why and then tell me what round grade you put on him. Because I, I watched him for about 40 minutes before we got into this because get this, hadn't gotten to him yet. And I got some thoughts. You lay them on me. [00:09:15] Speaker A: I thought he had a decent feel in the pocket for pressure. A couple times he threw absolute darts. I thought not elite in in a ton of facets, but good arm talent. Good, good athleticism. Should probably know how tall he is, [00:09:30] Speaker B: but didn't seem 6 2ish? [00:09:32] Speaker A: Didn't seem damningly small. [00:09:34] Speaker B: No. [00:09:36] Speaker A: Operated relatively quickly and perhaps. And maybe it's because I'm grading on a curve here and I'm watching people like Sawyer Robertson who actually have not a clue what's going on and shouldn't be drafted. [00:09:49] Speaker B: I'm not trying to tell me his head moved. You telling me his head moved at all? Because that, that really does separate him from the rest of everybody. [00:09:55] Speaker A: I'm saying he took check downs. I'm saying he went, yeah, nope, check down. And for me, for me, when I'm talking about a guy like, oh, can he maybe operate at the NFL level? Just operate in offense going, no, there's an open guy underneath. I'll take it. I'll take it. And I know that's getting a little bit too excited. [00:10:16] Speaker B: You should see this guy's check downs, let me tell you, Dieter. [00:10:19] Speaker A: But the other stuff, listen, there were a couple times he had a really. I had one major blemish on it where he had a really bad read where he stared something down and nearly threw a pick six from his own end zone. They were up by like 30 or 40. [00:10:31] Speaker B: Yeah, the interceptions, I mean, I did end up watching a lot of Texas Tech football in the moment. I think I told you this when you kind of started fawning over him. He, he threw a lot of damning interceptions. He threw a lot right over the middle. And this is kind of where I get hung up on it. I don't think that he would be out of bounds as a draft pick, but I couldn't. I didn't develop the same sort of feelings watching him, certainly when I was watching him in the first place, because I never really made note of him as a prospect outside of, hey, the Texas Tech quarterback does throw a lot of bad interceptions, doesn't he? And then, but also, they totally sucked when he didn't play that one game, I believe against Arizona State. But then the other thing is, and this really, this really showed up in the two games I was able to speed through. I like the zip on his throw hashes and, you know, right around the numbers, like kind of inside, right. Anything that's slot in, really good zip. And you, you can see, you go, okay, that's a, that's a nice throw. You can get into tight windows. He's got a nice little touch on the pass. A lot of good stuff there. When he's asked to throw an opposite hash out, which is very difficult to do in college given the, where the hash marks are and such. That ball has that same zip for the first like 10, 15 yards and then absolutely dies. And there's just something that I can't get over when just a rope just sort of slows out. It was like he was throwing a change up almost repeatedly. And that's the kind of throw that, that maybe that's a bit extreme because of the hash marks and all that, but those kind of cross the field throws, you get your, you get to set your feet, turn your shoulders, stand and deliver. If you can't get it 25 yards because it will just slow down, that's going the other way. And that's not what his interceptions were from. Again, what I recall, and Then the very limited 40 minutes I spent with him today, that's not what his interceptions were. But those are interceptions at the NFL level. So that was. That was my concern here. I'm going to throw this your way, though. If we're talking about a Big 12 quarterback who's in that six seventh, you're taking a total flyer on him. Give me, and I can't believe I'm saying this, give me Jalen Daniels of Kansas. Because he can run a lot better. [00:13:00] Speaker A: He certainly can run a lot better. [00:13:03] Speaker B: Can run a lot better. I really do like the zip on his throws. I think he has a really nice deep ball. I think that he. More so than most quarterbacks I've seen in this class, in fact, maybe all but the very tippy top ones. Really good at delivering accurate footballs, not at a deep level or anything. He's not Patrick Mahomes, but really good at delivering 15 yards and in off balance, off platform. And he has to do that because he's always running around for his life. And he struck me as somebody who. And maybe this is my Mizzou bias coming through. Somebody who was completely done in by his surroundings and constantly made the most of it. He got his ass kicked by Mizzou. They had two good drives in the [00:13:47] Speaker A: inverse way where, like, he was the problem. Some of the time it's tough to tell because you're right. Like he didn't have exceptional playmakers around him and he sort of asked to do everything. But then when you get in that habit, then you're doing too much, which makes it a difficult eval. [00:14:04] Speaker B: And he got banged up a bunch, too, which, sure, it makes sense. [00:14:09] Speaker A: Where I was disgusted by his play. [00:14:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:11] Speaker A: Frankly. And other times where you're like, no, all right. [00:14:16] Speaker B: You know who he kind of reminded me of at his best. And this is unfair. There's some Malik Willis in there and they're about the same size. Now, Malik filled out a little bit more from the Liberty days. Certainly he's not as fast as Malik was when Malik, I believe, was at Auburn to begin. But the kind of off platform throws, just get it out. You know, you can do some RPO stuff with him where he's an actual threat. Good zip on the ball, nothing crazy as a backup quarterback. I think he could be a really fun one. And I don't think it would be a fun one. Yeah, like. And if it goes to hell, like, what'd you lose? But he's the one guy who were, you know, that this is not a great quarterback. Class, to say the least. [00:15:02] Speaker A: He's the one guy of guys that just went undrafted. [00:15:05] Speaker B: No, undrafted. He's the one who. I'm like, you know, there's like, a one in 50 universe where he not just makes it in the league, but, like, starts and has, like, three or four good years. Like, gets a contract and then dies because he's six foot one, maybe, and weighs, like 195 pounds. But, like, there. There's. There's something about. He had. He had a moxie to him that I really liked, and that could go both ways. Gets immediately cut, whatever is playing in the UFL, by when. You know, he's a St. Louis battle hawk when it's all said and done. [00:15:38] Speaker A: But I prefer the Chupacabras, frankly. [00:15:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:41] Speaker A: Or is that the ifl? That's the ifl. [00:15:43] Speaker B: That is the ifl. That's the Indoor Football League, which we all know is the most reputable of all the indoor football leagues. The Fisher Freights is another team. I might have spent 20 minutes on a Runway recently just reading about the IFL. We could go on and we. This is. This is a terrible. This is a terrible quarter. I know that. I've been couching it. This is a terrible quarterback class. We're to the point where, like, Nussmeier feels like a top 100 player. [00:16:14] Speaker A: He's my QB2. [00:16:16] Speaker B: Like, he's. And he's not awesome. Like, there's nothing cool about him. [00:16:21] Speaker A: No. But what he does do is he's kind of a gunslinger. And you're like, I don't know about that. And he gets it in there. He takes risks. But he also has really good ball placement. I think he's got a little bit of, like, the Big Ben, like, sort of wider guy. Good pocket movement where you're like. It's little micro movements. [00:16:42] Speaker B: Yes. [00:16:43] Speaker A: I think he just, like, is a professional in a class. [00:16:47] Speaker B: Dad's a long time oc. Right. Like. [00:16:49] Speaker A: Right. [00:16:50] Speaker B: He. But he gets a little. It's nice that he has that gunslinger thing because you get a lot of kids. Kids of coaches that are just, oh, it broke down. I don't know what to do. Like, he has some feel for it. I just like that his head kept moving. Like, the bar is so low. This guy's actually scanning the field looking for stuff. And I was kind of in very, very early in the process on Drew Aller on the basis of, like. Well, he has all the tools except the ability. [00:17:18] Speaker A: Looks like a quarterback. [00:17:19] Speaker B: My goodness. Does he. Except for the whole. Can't throw an accurate pass to save his life thing. So I'm not sure they put in the same amount of effort that like the Bills put into Josh Allen to make that work. [00:17:33] Speaker A: Can I. Let me just say a lot of people are going to lose their jobs, I think, over this draft. [00:17:39] Speaker B: Yes. [00:17:40] Speaker A: I think a lot of people are going to make some very, very bad decisions because. And this. Let me get the takeoff. I don't think there's like John lynch goes through and he says there's a certain amount of draftable players every year. Last year he said 200. Year before he said 170. I think it's going to be below 170 and I feel confident about that. [00:18:04] Speaker B: Why do you think they don't have any picks in the fifth, sixth or seventh round? [00:18:07] Speaker A: And I think they don't have much interest unless they get into, you know, day three and there's a guy they really like that sitting there and they go, all right, let's trade our fourth this year for, you know, an early fifth next year. See if someone will come on board. [00:18:22] Speaker B: Right. [00:18:22] Speaker A: I don't know if people will do that because next year's picks are so much, obviously more valuable. But there's a lot of yikes in this class. [00:18:31] Speaker B: And there's some yikes pretty fast. Like, can I, can I, like, can I throw this at you? I'm seeing a lot of love for like our Mason Thomas, who, I want to be clear, is like going to be a top 100 player. For me, I don't think it's like a bad football player, like he's draftable, but the fact that he's hyped up as a possible first round pick, it's like, oh, no, baby, what you doing right? And then I've been seeing this sort of reverse engineering of justification on this and it's like, oh, he plays with such a great motor. I'm like, oh, great. The bare wreck was, you know, the bare minimum of what's necessary to be a top 100 pick. Or like he's a good run stopper. And I'm like, no, they just ran directly into him. Like, he never sheds blocks to get, you know, to stuff the run. He just plays with the high motor. He's got a great first step off the line. He is a third down pass rusher who's a little bit wider than what you would expect for that. But there's not enough there to justify, I think, even anything close to a top 50 pick. And yet he'll go in the top 50 because once you get out of the clear cuts, it gets real hairy real fast. [00:19:41] Speaker A: I think sharp front offices are going to have kind of a field day with this draft and be able to get and say, hey, this is actually like a good player. Maybe it's a position we don't have a need in, but, like, this is a really good player. We're going to get it. The values there, we know after a certain pick, it's kind of just throwing darts. Yeah. And there's going to be teams that, like, reach based on need and say, oh, well, we need an edge rusher. And this edge rusher is. Is fourth on our board and he's there, but in next year's class, he'd be 15th. [00:20:15] Speaker B: Yeah, well, just call. Call that what that is. That's called the Nick Martin. That's what that. Yep, that's called the Cam Latu where we need this. It is a certain round that we expected to have this done by. We are going to just take whomever is left to top our board, even if they should not be anywhere near this pick. [00:20:33] Speaker A: I can't wait to see how disappointing or how disappointed I am again. Like, I. I'm not a fan of the San Francisco 49ers, but I'd like to cover a team with an interesting rookie tight end. I can't wait to see how I'm disappointed by what they choose to do. I know they just brought in Dallin Bentley for a couple different interviews and whatever. That's encouraging. He's awesome. [00:20:54] Speaker B: He is. [00:20:55] Speaker A: I know. I know. It's not going to be him. It's going to be someone who deeply upsets me. [00:21:00] Speaker B: Who would upset you most? [00:21:02] Speaker A: Who would upset me most is spending, like, pick 58 or something on, like, Michael Trigg. [00:21:10] Speaker B: Yeah, that. That would be upsetting. [00:21:13] Speaker A: Or Eli Raritan, who I think is just not it. He think he's soft. [00:21:20] Speaker B: I'm with you. I'm with you on that. I the only two tight ends. [00:21:25] Speaker A: I mean, there's a lot of good tight ends. There's a lot of, like, viable, projectable tight end. [00:21:29] Speaker B: Roush is fine. Roush is fine. I like both of the Georgia tight ends a lot. I much prefer Delp to Lucky, but I think Lucky, like, is usable. I think that there's. I think that's a pro. [00:21:42] Speaker A: I'm completely with you. [00:21:44] Speaker B: Usually I have four or five day three tight ends that I won't shut the hell up about. And I think it's just going to be lucky this year. And that's really stretching the boundaries of like, excitement. [00:21:58] Speaker A: I stumbled on Lance Mason from Wisconsin. Wisconsin. It's funny when you watch, you're like, I'm gonna watch DBs against this team that never throws the ball. [00:22:09] Speaker B: That would do it. [00:22:10] Speaker A: It's maddening. Lance Mason is a guy for Wisconsin, where I'm like, pretty good move blocker. Not necessarily like a total driver, but runs route surprisingly well. Moved really well. He's like a. A day three guy. I'm a big fan of that. I think, yeah, he'll just fit what you need to do. [00:22:30] Speaker B: I have. I have one day three guy that I'm like, all about right now. I texted you him the other day, Jordan Vandenberg out of Georgia Tech. [00:22:39] Speaker A: You texted me and I did not respond because I was. Something was happening. I went, I can't deal with this. [00:22:43] Speaker B: That's fine. It's totally fine. Jordan Vandenberg is a South African who got a 10 RAS, and most of the time you find like, he's just learning football. He was a rugby player all this. He. I don't think he's a future 49er, to be clear. I don't think that they need a Jordan Vandenberg on the basis of he's just a double team eater now. He's. He's low and he's squatty and he's got some pop. It's kind of like, you know what? You know who he kind of reminded me of? He was like Mason Graham with less upside. Like, Mason Graham was out there kind of stumpy and. And yet he was getting in the backfield like crazy. And you're like, oh, hell yeah, I get it. And then you watch Vandenberg and you're like, he's kind of getting in the backfield a little bit here. And also anytime they throw the double team at him, which was apparently every snap, which is telling in and of itself, he was just eating them up and trying to get off of me. And, like, I really liked his tape. It's not sexy, it's not flashy. It's not going to lend itself to people who do this through YouTube highlights at all because there won't be any but, like, good football player. And if you're looking for a. It's probably closer to a 3 tech because of size. But if you're looking for a first or second down 3 tech, who you get the right coach with them could develop into something like, pretty damn good. Jordan Vandenberg feels. Feels like a really fun flyer. Especially, like in round four. You've already had a couple picks in Round four. But the Niners just, just, they're not in a position with. I love west still, you still have Collins. You just get, you just get odigazua. Like you're in a position where, yeah, you need to add another one, but you probably need another, you know, gap shooting 3 tech, somebody closer to that. But he's somebody that I think is going to end up being a steal on day three or no one ever hears from him again. But in, you know, at least he took the shot. [00:24:48] Speaker A: Like, it's funny. It's like we, we talked about like day, day three can get ugly. But it's also like that's the only time I would draft the defensive tackle in this entire draft. I would not even consider it in the first three days unless I have actually one, exactly one exception. [00:25:04] Speaker B: Okay. [00:25:05] Speaker A: And it's Kaden McDonald and it's how [00:25:07] Speaker B: early [00:25:09] Speaker A: once round one ends. You could do not even consider him in round one. But my God, he is beautiful. He's run defending monster great. Just like he's awesome. He is phenomenal. And there's, there's not a ton of pass rush upside. There's really not, but it would. But there is a world where he learns to use that power and that base and just create disruption going forward like a snowplow. But he is, yeah, he's awesome. And he's just going to eat up space and create a lot of problems in the run game and make everybody else's life easier on the first two downs. [00:25:48] Speaker B: I just don't know why we're even bothering because he's so clearly going to get drafted by the Chargers. Like I've never seen a more Chargers player in my life. You're talking about a run stuffing one tech who you could keep on the field on third down because he's going to make everybody else's life easier. Like that's a charger. That's what Jim Harbaugh lives for. And yeah, I think anyone would be well suited. No love for Peter Woods. [00:26:14] Speaker A: I just, he just dropped a ton for me. I just evaluated him physically or on the board. [00:26:23] Speaker B: Okay. [00:26:24] Speaker A: He went from, you know, like I had him. Here's the thing. I watched one game of him where he looked awesome. [00:26:31] Speaker B: Yes. [00:26:32] Speaker A: Then I watched two more games and I went, oh, dear God, no. [00:26:36] Speaker B: So that's interesting because usually the worst case scenario is, wait a minute, where is he? [00:26:42] Speaker A: Yeah, I have him in. [00:26:43] Speaker B: You could find him and you were not happy with what you saw. [00:26:46] Speaker A: I have him now as like late round two. So. Wow, here's the thing. [00:26:55] Speaker B: Okay. [00:26:55] Speaker A: Dumpy, stumpy arms and his entire MO is connect. He wants to get you right here. And then he's got incredible torque, incredible upper body strength, but he has to connect, which is a little bit difficult with those stumpy arms. Longer guys, particularly longer guards, even in schools that aren't like phenomenal. It didn't have great lines if they were longer. They just kept him at literal arm's length and he couldn't do anything. And then he's. He a red flag for me. Cannot be used on the goal line. Was demolished in goal line situations. There's one play he got completely removed and they ran wide open untouched. Running back into the end zone directly behind where woods is supposed to be. So there's first step quickness and burst. He's got a little bit of versatility. His pad levels a real problem for me. He needs to be a low driver who gets low and connects. But he gets, he gets tie. He gets high and he gets removed easily. He tries to go up over the top and it just doesn't work. And if somebody just connects with him at his hip, it's over. When he connects with you like and he gets one foot in the ground, he can tear off you and make a play. Which is why I can't quit him. And I think with the right coaching, there's something too with K part where I'm like, is this. What's Clemson doing on their. On their defensive line? And it's not just like, I know it's a good school, but like, I have some questions about what's going on there with their defensive fronts. And I wonder if you get him with the right coach. I think he's a guy. If you believe in your defensive line coach, if you're very confident in your defensive line coach, you can go for him. But like, you have to know exactly like you. You have to have an example. And I don't have a lot of examples of like stumpy arm guys who use that plan of attack as a reference point to really succeed. So I, I'm a little bit out on him. [00:29:01] Speaker B: Well, well. And it would be fine if he was a good enough run stuffer because then you just put him in that category and you like that upside. And every now and again he's going to create some havoc in the backfield because it all lined up for him perfectly. But that's gravy because you're getting the run stuffing. Like a lot of the same characteristics you laid out are the same issues that Alfred Collins has. Except Alfred Collins is way bigger, way longer. Doesn't have that same first step or anything. But it's just very. Even if Alfred Collins doesn't know what he's doing, it's just very difficult to run around him. It's very difficult to move him under any circumstances. [00:29:39] Speaker A: He just occupies space. [00:29:41] Speaker B: Right. And so it's like when you, it's [00:29:45] Speaker A: like literally when you draft in the NBA and you just get a seven footer who's wide, it's. Who is. Oh, wait, who's the guy that the Timberwolves had for the longest time? The. I want to say he was Serbian and he was just incredibly yoked. [00:30:01] Speaker B: Oh, yes. [00:30:02] Speaker A: You know who I'm talking about. [00:30:04] Speaker B: Nimovich, I think it was. It started with an N and ended with an itch. You picked the middle forward. It wasn't. No, no, no number. It was like number 13. He had like a beard. Nikola Pekovic, I was going to say. [00:30:23] Speaker A: Right, Just, just Nikola Pekovich. He's in there just to like rebound and be a little large. [00:30:28] Speaker B: Little Yusef Nurkic. Right? [00:30:30] Speaker A: Yeah, just. [00:30:31] Speaker B: Just be large. Go out there every now and again. You can do something fun, but really, no, you're not going to be on the court for, by the way, minutes. [00:30:38] Speaker A: I've made a mistake because I put it out into the universe and I explicitly stated it in the Hatch report today. But I'm so in on, on the Balkans with Illinois. I'm. I'm so deeply in on them. [00:30:51] Speaker B: Yes. I don't particularly care for Illinois basketball from a long seated rivalry, but they, I'm very in on the Balkans. Spent like almost a month in Croatia. Like, I'm in on the bulk. The Balkans are an all time, all time hack for travel, by the way, if you're at all interested in like I'm gonna go to the south of France or I'm gonna go to the, you know, the coast in Italy and it's like, no, find you a, you know, hit up, hit up. Croatia. Hit up. You know, I want to, I want to go up into Slovenia and go skiing mainly because I got somewhat addicted to Lasco. The Slovenian beer, which is just a delight. Has a ram on it. So good. I got a couple of questions for you here. This is not going to be a long show. [00:31:40] Speaker A: Go for it. [00:31:42] Speaker B: Who's returning kicks for the San Francisco 49ers this upcoming season? Either. [00:31:48] Speaker A: Either kind Jacob Cowing. [00:31:50] Speaker B: I mean, it does seem like that's the way it's trending and I suppose that he didn't Disqualify himself because he didn't practice at all last year. [00:32:01] Speaker A: You want the actual odds on favorite who like Patrick Taylor as like a special teams start the season on practice squad. They haven't figured it out and they say, Patrick Taylor, you're our special teams running back for the first four weeks until we find an answer because we forgot to find somebody in training. [00:32:23] Speaker B: It does feel like it will be Jordan James to start on kick returns [00:32:28] Speaker A: with which is not his skill set. Like he's not fast. Fast. [00:32:33] Speaker B: No, no. None of this is good. Yeah, it's all bad. There was some suggestion of Watkins. I. I am. I'm gonna. I'm gonna label myself a walk in skeptic. He was like my third favorite receiver on Ole Miss two years ago. Yep, I understand the selling point. It just. There's some. It's like Giants coded. Like, you keep saying that he's all these things. Why doesn't he do any of these things? As far as anyone can tell, it's like, who's. [00:33:05] Speaker A: It's like, who's the pitcher? That was like awesome. He started a few games. I'm so bad with names for some reason. [00:33:12] Speaker B: That's my throws. [00:33:13] Speaker A: 100. [00:33:13] Speaker B: We can't. [00:33:14] Speaker A: He threw. [00:33:15] Speaker B: We're talking Carson Wizen, Hunt talking. [00:33:20] Speaker A: No, I'm talking reliever converted to starter. Who throws 100. [00:33:24] Speaker B: Oh, Jordan Hicks. [00:33:27] Speaker A: Jordan Hicks. Right. Jordan Watkins. Jordan Hicks. It's a thing of like, oh, is. Oh, he's gonna pull it off. Like, he's gonna be great. And then it's like, oh, his arm. His arm is shot. Because he. It's not sustainable. [00:33:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Now he's a white sock. I think so. That's not good. Go socks. [00:33:43] Speaker A: How about the Giants starting tomorrow night? A lot of people going to be disappointed. [00:33:47] Speaker B: We'll see. We'll see. They got 162. And you know, you can't be perfectly mid after one game. You have to be either up one or down one. So at least there will be one night of agony or. [00:33:59] Speaker A: So it begins. [00:34:01] Speaker B: So it begins. I am not going to stay for the game tomorrow. That's. That's my official stance on it. I'm going to go. I'm going to listen to Tony Vitello complain about being there and then I'm going to leave and let you all figure it out on the fly. I'll go on. I'll go on Friday. But by the way, they're not playing on Sunday. Like, great job, Rob. You nailed it, buddy. They're going to play on Wednesday. Friday And Saturday, and then they won't play on Sunday. Awesome. Fantastic. [00:34:30] Speaker A: I don't like that at all. [00:34:32] Speaker B: No, I don't care for it one bit. I'm a good team. [00:34:35] Speaker A: In two weeks against my Mets. [00:34:37] Speaker B: Hey, now it's all about the Mets, baby. Also, the Niners got Robert Jones and free agency. Much, much to the chagrin of anyone who has covered the NFL because they immediately had to figure out who is Robert Jones. I have done some research, Jake, and let me tell you, my initial read on this guy's a jag. Maybe. Maybe he's a jag, but there's something there. I kind of, I kind of liked it. Right. [00:35:05] Speaker A: So how would you do, how would you describe Mr. Robert Jones, who I simply have not watched, nor should you. [00:35:14] Speaker B: The feet are always moving, the heads always moving. I think he delivers a pretty good punch. The. My main takeaway was like, looks like a smart. And this is such a silly thing to come off of, like five games worth of, you know, quickly scanning through it on NFL Pro from two years ago. But he feels like he was the brains of the operation on the Miami offensive line. Felt like the only guy who seemed to know the plays, never felt panicked. Doesn't make like plays, but also doesn't make. Not make plays, if that makes sense. He's just sort of there and sure, and it's hard to get a grade on him because when he messes up, he does a nice job of recovering. But it's never like a true cleanup where, you know, knocks a dude on his ass. It's always just giving the quarterback another second or two to get rid of the football. [00:36:04] Speaker A: Puny. [00:36:06] Speaker B: It's, it's, it's, it's not puny esque because he doesn't have the same power that Puni can deliver. But this guy, this guy I can totally see in watching, watching those four or five games from, from Miami two years ago. Like, why. First year was like, oh, yeah, let's roll with that. Now if you just anoint him the starter over everybody else, you've done a terrible disservice. But he is someone who should at least as it, you know, at least as far as I can tell right now, make the team out of camp. And like, if he has to play 10 games, it's not, he's not going to be the problem. He just won't. I, I actually really liked him and I'm a little bit disappointed that he was in no way on my radar in any way, shape or form because I have advocated for worse and this guy was. This guy was fine. This guy was fine. And every now and again you're like, oh, yeah, I get it. And again, he just, he. He seems to know the place. Head's always moving. He's looking to help. Looking for work. [00:37:02] Speaker A: Did have a neck injury, if I'm not mistaken. [00:37:04] Speaker B: That's why I didn't play for Dallas last year. So I'm actually a big fan of the Robert Jones thing. And in general, I'm a pretty big fan of kind of everything the Niners have done in free agency. I think that they really, really did well. I mean, we don't need to get into the nitty gritty on the contracts and stuff, because they really did well there. But, like, sure, Mike Evans is not a guaranteed slam dunk, but if it [00:37:27] Speaker A: works, my God, sideways. Because these guys all have injury histories and are old. But, like, yeah, I like the prices and the players. [00:37:34] Speaker B: Yeah, I think, you know, Drake Greenlaw coming back, like, that's a emotional boost. If anything, that's worth the cost of admission for the 49ers there. Christian Kirk, we talked about, like, that's a really nice signing. I thought they just did a bunch of really nice deft things, and I would have liked it if they had gotten another tight end or another running back or if they, you know, I still think they can probably get in at safety. Dallas safety last year, forgive me, I forget his name. Cor. Course, we don't remember anybody's names. Donovan Wilson still around. That might be an option there. [00:38:06] Speaker A: Remember, safety is like the most late free agency window position on the planet. [00:38:12] Speaker B: A week into training camp, they're like, we should sign a safety. Right? [00:38:15] Speaker A: They did the one year before they got to Sean Gibson. I swear to you, I had to write about three or four articles that were like, former Pro Bowler signs with the Niners and then went to Sean Gibson sign. I was like, oh, another one who's going to get cut in a week. Because you're just like, they recycle these guys. [00:38:32] Speaker B: It's. Yeah. By the way, Niners aren't the only team that kind of treats safety is like dog water. [00:38:38] Speaker A: Like, I don't think anyone knows what they want at safety except for, like, Mike McDonald. [00:38:43] Speaker B: I wonder why he's succeeding if safeties are destiny. The one guy who seems to know anything about safety is just won the Super Bowl. But, like, they have put themselves in a position where, yes, they might not be able to go. Best available player. But, like, it seems like it's a decent enough safety class Right. First safety class. I can remember in a long time where there are three guys, safeties, good linebackers, good tight ends and there's enough defensive ends just in quantity that you can get away with it if you're looking for the right thing like a J. Gabe Jack is at Illinois, might be there, might by the way go like 40. [00:39:24] Speaker A: The. [00:39:24] Speaker B: Yeah. The problem is that Jack is maybe even go at the end of the first round because there's certainly going to be three or four teams that are like, oh hell yeah, this is our guy. [00:39:32] Speaker A: They're like, listen, everyone sucks. We like him. Why would we take him and try and take him in two rounds when we could have him now? We don't know what we're going to pick next, but he's cool. [00:39:42] Speaker B: But if you think about what they, what they need, I mean they need a plus one at wide receiver, but they need, they can probably pick somebody up and free. They need a plus one. They need a plus one at running back. Okay. Like not, not something that's immediate. [00:39:55] Speaker A: Yeah, they need a running back desperately desperate. [00:39:57] Speaker B: I mean but they have made their call already in this regard. They're not getting a running back who's going to fill the role that they should be filling. That role is now held by Jordan James. I don't agree with that, but that is where it stands. Well, yeah, we'll see. Indeed they need a tight end but they've again made the determination that they're not. They're not going to go get somebody who could replace KD for a year even in a loose facility of whatever, you know, a two way guy who can do that. There's not going to do it, but they need to get another one into, into the building. The, the two spots that really stand. I mean they need another safety but they can do that in a bunch of different ways. They should probably add another corner because you should probably just always add another corner and you probably do that earlier rather than later this year. If nothing else, to put a fire under Green's ass who's by the way is not getting traded because he was never going to get traded. The only thing that it feels like they desperately deeply must have is a pass rushing defensive end so that when Bosa slides over to 5Tech on third down, they need to get somebody who can come off the edge. [00:41:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:07] Speaker B: Not just argue guard, but they will [00:41:09] Speaker A: disagree with me and not do that. [00:41:11] Speaker B: They and again like you and I are in agreement. Like they should go get a guard. They should go get a second running back. It feels like their determinations have been made there where they're like, no, we're going to get by with this, and we're going to get by with this. The one position where they cannot make that claim right now, earnestly, where they need somebody for this very particular and very important role is, you know, secondary pass rusher. And not a great class for that to be. But ironically, in a weird way, because it's such a specific role, you can get away with it. Because I don't like a lot of these defensive ends except in that specific role. [00:41:47] Speaker A: Right. [00:41:47] Speaker B: Where you should be getting that late, you know, day two or early. Right, early day three. [00:41:53] Speaker A: And it's Josephs or something. 58 or Malachi Lawrence or something like, [00:41:58] Speaker B: is that good value? No. [00:42:00] Speaker A: No. [00:42:01] Speaker B: Is there any good value? No. [00:42:03] Speaker A: It is going to be the ultimate draft class where I'm like, that is two rounds higher than I graded him out. And that makes complete sense that, that he was selected there, given what else is on the board. There's going to be guys that are like fifth round grades that are going to go at pick 60 and I'm going to go. Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. In the context of this class, it is really shocking. [00:42:23] Speaker B: I mean, it is really shocking how unimpressive this draft class is. [00:42:29] Speaker A: Yeah, it's weak. [00:42:30] Speaker B: I'm. [00:42:30] Speaker A: It's weak. [00:42:34] Speaker B: It's. I knew it wasn't going to be good because I knew last year wasn't good. And then the guys that I really seem to like during last year's process were all two years away from getting drafted. [00:42:48] Speaker A: 100%. 100%. [00:42:51] Speaker B: So. But this year it's really rough because every game I'm watching, I'm like, oh, wait, who's that? Oh, he's not coming out until next year. Oh, wait, who's that watching? [00:43:01] Speaker A: Was it Clemson? It was either Clemson or Auburn. I'm forgetting what his name is. No, no, it was. I. I forget. [00:43:07] Speaker B: But you're always two years away on Clemson, number 15. [00:43:11] Speaker A: And I want to say it was for Clemson and I was like, this is the best path. It was Clemson and it was the best pass rusher on Clemson's defensive line. [00:43:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. I couldn't stop watching that guy either. Who is he? He was the one good player. But don't worry, Dabo will screw that up as he did with woods and as he did with Parker and all that. Like, maybe we just stay away from Clemson for a while. I mean, Clay Club Nick and Clemson was supposed to be a national title contender. This past year because this was the year that everything kind of built up into. Right. Because Clemson would not use the transfer portal. And they might never go back after the drama that they had with the transfer portal this past, past off season. But like, they wouldn't use the transfer portal. That was like, that's not how we do things in this Christian run organization. And. And so it was all the guys that they had recruited and kept for like three years, they were all coming of age in this season. And then they played in the Pinstripe bowl against. [00:44:09] Speaker A: Sorry. [00:44:10] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. But 15 on Clemson is my language. And you are 100% brother of Shaq [00:44:15] Speaker A: Lawson, by the way. [00:44:17] Speaker B: That's good bloodlines. Shaq Lawson was a hell of a football player. Might still be. Who's to say? What else do we need to get to? Because that. That's all I have. [00:44:25] Speaker A: I think just questions and yes, questions, questions, questions. [00:44:31] Speaker B: Okay, how about this? All right, Start here. Good show, fellows. Looking forward to being able to snag that hat. Yes. By the way, a great, A great reference point. If you're a seek help and the seek helps have been down down below this whole time. You need to check the posts on the YouTube page. Okay. If you are. If you are a seek help and I'll send it out again today. There's a form you gotta fill out. I'm not trying to dox anybody. You can do what? I just need to be able to send you something via usps, which is just a bunch of stickers and then I need you to put them everywhere. Children, cars, stop signs, whatever you want to do with them. But the stickers are going out to the sea kelps and it's not just one. I will just put in a bunch and I will put a stamp on it and it will come from Dieter and Hutch at my address. So don't dox me. And we'll just have a reciprocal relationship of I won't remember your address, you don't remember mine. And yeah, I'm excited to get these stickers out, but I don't want to start. I don't want to start sending them out until I can get them all out. And you'll get them all by the draft to be sure. But if you haven't already checked the post as a sick as a sea kelp, do it now. Put your name in there. This is the. [00:45:49] Speaker A: As Dank Dank says, tell people. Tell people how to become a member iPhones. [00:45:54] Speaker B: It's very straightforward. If you go to my Twitter account Which is not a great way of going about. If you use X, the everything app, you can, you can go to at Dieter D I E T E R, which is literally right above my head. And if you click that link up in my profile, it's a direct link to become a member. So that's the easiest way to do it. And you know what I'll even do? I'll just, I'll just drop it in here, right here, right now. And what a weird way to go about doing some business. But if you want to become a member, you can just click that link and it should take you right there. That or it's a computer virus. Who's to say? What do we have here? This is a good one. This running back class kind of stinks. Justin. Boy, howdy, are you right? Running backs are like the easiest position to get totally diluted by. Usually during the. You're like, oh yeah, I love this guy. It turns out he actually sucks once he gets to the NFL. But in college he just looks bitching. And you're watching him and you're like, this is great. You know, I don't care if he can't pass pro or doesn't know the play. You're just like, this guy's cool because he's usually the best athlete on the field. And they're college game is more often than not, especially at the lower levels. You know, just give it to the running back 40 times a game. I feel nothing for any of these guys. I feel nothing. [00:47:12] Speaker A: A couple guys I like. There's a couple guys I like. [00:47:15] Speaker B: Okay, well, do you want to share? [00:47:18] Speaker A: I just wanted to leave you on the hook to see how long K Tron Allen, who's the most obvious name where you're like, oh, you know. But he actually has outstanding vision and patience and just great tempo. I love the way he actually plays the position and reads it out and can like follow his blockers. Jamari Taylor from Virginia, positive yards menace. Micro cuts. Can find yardage when there's nothing there. His speed's more than good enough. He's quick. He's kind of an awesome little route runner too. I really, really, really, really, really like Jamari Taylor and I really like K Tron Allen. And then there's guys like Claiborne and Singleton and Price who are all like bigger backs where you're like, they're kind of huge boom bus players. Mike Washington is not a good football player, but is so fast and so large. He will produce. But I. I'm not sure he's actually good at man. The sport. [00:48:17] Speaker B: If only. [00:48:18] Speaker A: If only. [00:48:19] Speaker B: There was a recent example of someone who was fast and large, who we made the argument like, oh, it has to work, [00:48:28] Speaker A: baby. [00:48:29] Speaker B: Garendo. Ish. That's not where we want to go. Let's just go to Dank. Dank here. Is Najee really coming back to the Bay? Nothing has ever been more certain than Najee getting signed on, like, July 14th. [00:48:44] Speaker A: Remember, compensatory picks once the draft's over, that's out the window. So someone asked about, like, Juwan Jennings lingering out there. [00:48:52] Speaker B: Ain't no one giving him a pick. [00:48:56] Speaker A: So just wait. Just wait until then. Then you can pay. [00:48:58] Speaker B: Guys, this is another one for me. We're finding out a lot about Dank. Dank. Mikel was a mistake. I disagree with that. But I will. I will say we did not get into this with. With Falk, whatever his first name might be. Keltrick. Kendrick. [00:49:12] Speaker A: Keldrick. [00:49:13] Speaker B: Keltrick. Thank you. A lot of Mikel in Keldrick Falk. [00:49:17] Speaker A: Yeah, he's a little bit different, but, yeah, there's a lot there of a bigger edge who's sort of almost defensive tackle. Ish. I think he's a little bendier. He plays with his eyes up. He's got quick hands. [00:49:35] Speaker B: The hands are certainly not as heavy. [00:49:39] Speaker A: Yeah, it's not. He gets dropped. He gets moved a little bit more than Mikel, but he's also more of, like, a rip bend guy than Michael is. So, like, he tries to attack and dip his outside shoulders. They're. There's a lot of similarities, but they do have different styles where Mikel's trying to go through your face and, yeah, will. Or at least will push you back a few feet in the pocket. Even though he might not win because he doesn't necessarily know what he's doing yet. [00:50:08] Speaker B: No. And that. That would be the concern. Nothing would validate the Mikel draft pick. And this. This will be misconstrued. Nothing will validate the Mikel draft pick more than if Keldrick Falk gets taken by the Niners at 27. People will be like, oh, that means that they don't like Mikel because they got the same thing. It's like, no, no, no. It merely means that they want more of what they already have. They're so far in on Mikel, they're like, what if we had two of them? I'm not sure that's the best way to go about it, but. But damned if I don't love Mikel Williams projections So I have to be in on keldrick Falk at 27. [00:50:45] Speaker A: I also think Falk is just. He's got violent hands. He can be really disruptive. There's times where it doesn't look as good, but, like, there's a level of violence there. I really appreciate he was in the [00:50:58] Speaker B: thick of it all year at Auburn. And by the way, Auburn's defense, whomever. I refuse to look it up because it will be an enemy for life, whoever their defensive coordinator was, into the sun. [00:51:12] Speaker A: Yeah, that's about right. [00:51:15] Speaker B: Who's the other Overton, the other defensive end? [00:51:19] Speaker A: Oh, are you thinking of key Ron Crawford. [00:51:23] Speaker B: Key Ron Crawford. Thank you. Sorry. Over on Crawford. I'm sorry. [00:51:29] Speaker A: Overton's Alabama. [00:51:30] Speaker B: Thank you. Yeah. Who I'm not a fan of, but Crawford. Really exciting possibilities with Crawford. Very difficult to find him actually playing defensive end because you're like, oh, Kentucky actually had a pretty good offensive line, and this is a kind of an evenly matched game. Let me put that game on. And they're just dropping him into coverage repeatedly from, you know, 5 Tech. It was just. It was abysmal. And then you're like, oh, you know, one game, maybe they're just, you know, being a little esoteric and doing it. Nope, it's like that all the time. Which, by the way, look great flipping the hips. Pretty impressive that he can play second level at his size in speed, but like, someone's. I wouldn't mind him at all at the end of the second round on the basis of what happens if you actually let him play the position that he should be playing. Like, that could be fun. [00:52:18] Speaker A: I think that's incredibly rich for him. [00:52:20] Speaker B: But I like him. I'm in again. [00:52:23] Speaker A: I like him, but I think he's going to take time to develop. This is an interesting thought by Banali. If Ty Simpson, basically, would someone trade for Ty Simpson, get up at pick 27, do you trade back? [00:52:37] Speaker B: It's been suggested that there are teams that are in on Ty Simpson. I'm going to give that another 10 days to believe it because what that reeks to me. I'm just. I agree with why. What it reeks to me is that Ty Simpson is. So right now we're doing the classic thing that every. We do every draft cycle, we. I mean, just the bloviators. We haven't talked for a week. So it's not us. But it is. There is a de facto. Everyone knows number one pick. We are now at the point where 80% of the NBA games do not matter. We are right before opening day. So we're. That's kind of like also like, hey, let's lock in on, on the NFL draft stuff. So what we have is people trying to get attention by nay saying the no doubt number one overall pick, who by the way, is not a flawless quarterback. Not, not an obvious one, certainly not somebody that we've been talking about for a couple of years. But we'll do this next year with Arch Manning because we have no other playbook but to do the same shit every year right around the end of March, early April. What if we shit all over the obvious number one overall pick? And what does that mean? It means that you have to then provide an alternative who's the better quarterback. And Orlofsky's out here just soaking it up on this whole, I like Ty Simpson more. You have other people out here being like, I think Garrett Nussmeier is a top 20, you know, should be a first round pick. You have crazy talk from people who are trying to get attention at a very weird point in the sports calendar because we're not 100% in it yet, but we're close enough that people are starting to think about it. So this is your time to grab some attention. And in that, I just think that there are now a lot of hangers on of people who are jumping into the situation saying, oh, well, Ty Simpson must be good because now everyone's talking about him all the time. So teams that need a quarterback are probably going to try to do a Lamar Jackson thing and jump in at the bottom of the first round. But this cycle will end in a couple of days. Like a week from now. This whole cycle of let's shit all over Mendoza and let's talk up a Ty Simpson or whomever. Like, usually there's more options available. This year. [00:54:58] Speaker A: Everybody's twiddling their fingers right now, like, all right, well, March Madness is back in a couple days. What do we got? What do we got? [00:55:03] Speaker B: 100%. 100%. So once we get to the Final Four and there's not enough to talk about because you know that once UNC hires a basketball coach, once baseball gets to the dog days, which is literally after the first weekend, everyone's like, I love baseball. [00:55:22] Speaker A: And then you stop watching completely and [00:55:25] Speaker B: you go, well, not me, but yes, most people I love, one of my [00:55:29] Speaker A: favorite things in the world is to have the Giants playing on another TV and take a nap. To drink a Modelo. Yeah, listen, leave the window open and have John Miller's Voice lull me to sleep in the middle of the day. [00:55:43] Speaker B: Raphael Devers at the plate. The pitch from Landon Roop. [00:55:50] Speaker A: Regardless, if you've never taken a nap to the sound of John Miller's voice, nothing will lull you to sleep better than that. [00:55:58] Speaker B: I mean, I've taken two dozen. Easy, easy. Not in a while, but easy. By the way, I'd go down so easy now. Just wouldn't be easier. But yeah, it's now Joe Rizzo doing it to sleep. Regardless, I think that a week from now, we'll be on a new storyline, which, by the way, I'll tell you right now, it's going to be Jeremiah Love to the Titans at four. That will be the storyline of next week, which is also stupid. But hey, Tennessee Titans, they got to sell them tickets. They got to make sure that new stadium is full. And you could put Jeremiah Love, who's a reputable young man with incredible skills, on a billboard next to your franchise quarterback and Robert Sala's bald ass head. You can do all of these things to get those season tickets going. That will be next week. And then we will just forget about the whole Ty Simpson thing and he'll go at Pick, you know, 42 to whichever team is at pick 42 right now. I don't know which one that is. Probably the Browns. [00:57:07] Speaker A: Yeah, it sounds about right. [00:57:08] Speaker B: So that's, that's where I'm at. I'm going to give it a week and if it's still a thing that's talked about, then, then we can have some fun. But I don't think it will be a thing that's talked about in. [00:57:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I think people, I think people are bored and it's fun to have a take as we know as we sometimes. Last one. Any belief in the 49ers going wide receiver at 27? Yeah, maybe. Could be. [00:57:35] Speaker B: I, I, well, definitely possible. It's very possible. I'm not, I'm not gonna flat out say that it would be inadvisable, but I do not think that Omar Cooper or Surat or the only one that I think could be justifiable at 27. Unless there's, you know, Lemon falls. And even then I'm not totally in on that. The only one that makes sense to me is Concepcion and I know I'm way higher on him than you are. [00:58:05] Speaker A: What about Brazil? [00:58:07] Speaker B: He's I you. And I wouldn't mind that. I'm not getting any buzz off of him right now. That, that is. Well, I haven't checked in a Week. Has he gotten any buzz in a week? Jake, have you. Have you heard tell of Brazil love out there? Because it seems to me as if he is mid second written all over my all. [00:58:27] Speaker A: I hear he's not even in the first two rounds in this field. Yates. [00:58:31] Speaker B: Well, that's. That is foolish. But I. I could take him. I could take him at 27. He seems to me like he's, again, pick 42. There's a lot of pick 42s in this draft, Jake. Like, there's a lot of. Yeah, like, it set the over under mid second round. [00:58:53] Speaker A: There's gonna be a lot of. Oh, he went. Okay. He went there. All right. [00:58:59] Speaker B: Just trying to figure. I mean, it's really annoying because the Colts are usually the team that does the big, bold, stupid thing right around pick, like 15 or so and kind of messes up everybody's board immediately. And I'm trying to figure out who that will be this year. I feel like the top 12. [00:59:18] Speaker A: Arizona could do something stupid. [00:59:21] Speaker B: I don't think Arizona. I don't think Arizona can do something stupid. I think they can do something underwhelming. I think it's pretty hard for them to do something stupid because there's not a direction they can't go in. And, yeah, the Cowboys are usually just pretty good at drafting sneaky good, good scouts. [00:59:38] Speaker A: I mean, that's the only way they still stay relevant because they don't sign anyone from outside the building. They have to draft. [00:59:43] Speaker B: Well, I will say that I think things could get really weird real fast at 13 with the Rams because the Rams just do not care about consensus. Yeah, throw it at me. [00:59:53] Speaker A: The Lions at 17 making a move to, like, get up and go get somebody and go crazy, like, trading up to, like, eight for, like, Monroe Freeling or something insane. I'm just saying I like what Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell does what he wants. [01:00:12] Speaker B: Well, Brad. Brad Holmes, too. I mean, the Rams. It's ironic, you know, the Rams and the Lions are the two teams that we picked. That's mine. Meld in the same way that the Commanders and the Niners are mine Meld. [01:00:24] Speaker A: Right. [01:00:25] Speaker B: So there's that. I mean, I'm fascinated to see what Tampa does at 15. They're. They're in a weird spot, and they could do something big, bold, and brash, or they could just do the lamest thing possible and make sure everyone gets fired at the end of the year. Dallas has two first round picks. [01:00:42] Speaker A: Jets have two first round picks. [01:00:45] Speaker B: Yeah, there's a lot of love for Zion Young, KC at 25, first round picks. Casey does have two first round picks, but one of them's at 29. So it doesn't really apply that much to us. [01:00:59] Speaker A: You know, Zion Young. Yeah, I mean, fine. [01:01:02] Speaker B: Zion Young at 25 to the Bears is like, that's been a thing for more than a week. I do think that's starting to filter out. I just don't see anybody who. With this draft because I'm not going to argue that any of these teams that draft in the top, like 11, are competent. But the talent pool is so obvious to that point. [01:01:30] Speaker A: Yeah, it feels like pretty obvious up. Up front. [01:01:34] Speaker B: And then it gets like, all right, anyone you want. What do you like? Which is why I think rams could [01:01:40] Speaker A: go 11 or 47. [01:01:43] Speaker B: Right. That's where it gets into. And that's it. That's the way that we've been breaking down this class. It's like, you know, you. I think I had seven or eight, like, gold star. These are guys, first round lottery picks, if you will. And. And then like, here's 30 guys and you can just put them in whatever order you want after that. Like, that's where we were at. And the Rams at 13, because they have. Am I correct on that? No, no. They. They obviously gave up 29 for McDuffie, but, like, the Rams at 13 might be thinking two years ahead and get really crazy with it. Also. I don't think anyone's going to be giving up 27 draft picks, but you know that there's going to be a lot of teams without going calls. [01:02:30] Speaker A: Someone will. Someone will. I always bet on. On. On someone being overly optimistic and just feeling themselves because it feels fun to make a pick. It feels so much fun to be like, we got our guy, man. And then you go, oh, our guy's okay. But you know what would be better is a better guy next year. [01:02:51] Speaker B: I mean, it just. Yeah. After 10. Because I'll say this, like, I'm just looking at Todd McVeigh's mock draft right now. Like Mendoza, Reese, Maui, Noah. He has Bane at 4. I'm not sure that's the case. But like, Bane and Love and Tate and Styles and then Bailey. [01:03:14] Speaker A: Yep. [01:03:14] Speaker B: And then maybe Mansoor Delane and then downs. And once downs is taken now it's just whatever the hell. [01:03:22] Speaker A: Tyson, you Tyson. [01:03:23] Speaker B: And Yeah, Tyson at 13 makes a lot of sense. Like, there's McCoy, there's Lemon. But now we're, you know, Messador could go at 15. He's 25 years old and he's had some. [01:03:35] Speaker A: He Needs custom shoes because his feet are so messed up. [01:03:39] Speaker B: He's got the Anthony Davises torrid. [01:03:41] Speaker A: Both. He tore the tendons in both of his feet two years ago. [01:03:46] Speaker B: That seems quite bad. [01:03:47] Speaker A: Wasn't. Wasn't good. [01:03:52] Speaker B: Golden. It's going to be Blake Miller or Malachi Lawrence at 27. Neither of those guys are even remotely close to first round picks in my book. And you can take him at 58. I don't think you can take him in the top 50, either of them. Particularly Lawrence, who feels like a YouTube all star to me. [01:04:10] Speaker A: People like, ooh, fun off the first step. [01:04:14] Speaker B: First steps, fun. Then what happens? And there's like 10 defensive ends in this class where it's like, wow, what a great first step. Oh, no. [01:04:22] Speaker A: Yeah. I just watched the Western Michigan kid and I'm like, you're rotational for Western Michigan. What are we doing here? [01:04:28] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. There's no way to live. It's no way to live where, you know, Cassius Howell is like that. At least Cassius Hal has like a move or two, but he has no plan if. If something goes off. Like. And honestly, it's funny, you know, you've been a big Gabe jackass guy since the Senior Bowl. Was he Senior bowl or Shrine Bowl? [01:04:48] Speaker A: Senior? [01:04:50] Speaker B: He's the only guy. He does not have the same physical traits as some of these dudes. Let's just be specific on first step, though. It's nice. It's good enough. But he, like, tries a bunch of different stuff and is just a mean sob. Like, he enjoys contact. Like, he's going to end up being the third or fourth best pass rusher in this draft class. And he might be the sixth or seventh off the board because teams will delude themselves into thinking, oh, we can teach him how to play defensive end. And it's like, yeah, no, you can't. Sorry. [01:05:22] Speaker A: Also, you know who's the ultimate? A team tries to make a trade in the first round, they can't. They think they have a deal. It doesn't go through. They panic and they say, oh, I got it. I got to pick somebody. T.J. parker. It's the ultimate. [01:05:39] Speaker B: You know what? [01:05:39] Speaker A: He's fine. He's fine. He's fine. He's gonna be. He's gonna be fine. That's the ultimate. Like, is he. [01:05:47] Speaker B: Whatever. [01:05:47] Speaker A: Whatever. He's. He's at least the right size. He's gonna be fine. [01:05:52] Speaker B: Yeah, there's. There's one. By the way, we didn't mention this guy off the top. And we'll leave it at this, unless we have another question. But McShay has Kenyan Sadiqa 27, which it's like, again, it just feels like this draft is going to deliver them something great and then they're going to take Blake Miller or Malachi. [01:06:12] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I think there's going to be some stupidity ahead of them that's going to leave them something. [01:06:18] Speaker B: How do you feel about McNeil Warren, the Toledo safety? [01:06:22] Speaker A: I've been meaning to rewatch him again. I think at 27, the size and the traits, it's fine. It's not my preferred safety, but that's. That's part of that is because I've watched a bunch of his games and I'm not as sold on the coverage abilities. Everybody else is because you see the pop and. Yeah, whatever. But you can also play him just as a linebacker and there's an element of that where he's just huge and he hits people. So, like him at 27, I get it. I think he is a little bit of a highlight oriented player, but there's also a world where it's like, okay, maybe he could be Derwin James. I mean, no one's Derwin James, but, like, physically, not incredibly far off. So again, I'm probably a bit lower, but in terms of size and versatility and upside, I'd get it. [01:07:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:07:15] Speaker B: I'm not the biggest fan, but again, feels kind of like a YouTube all star to me. Yeah, definitely wouldn't fit for the Niners. It just doesn't. You need somebody who's more aggressive with how they play, their safeties. I mean, you need somebody like. Baltimore would be a really good place for them if they wanted to go that route. Chicago would be a good place for him. Dennis Allen likes to mix it up there, put them on the line, stuff like that. A Raheem Morris team that's just going to play too high. [01:07:44] Speaker A: We'll see. I mean, we'll see what they do, though. Who knows? Who knows? We don't really know yet. [01:07:48] Speaker B: No, we don't. And that's why we keep talking. How do you feel about Lomu? [01:07:54] Speaker A: I literally am going to rewatch Utah again tonight. [01:08:01] Speaker B: I liked Fanu's tape more than I liked Lomu, but I like Lomu's specs far more than I like Thanos. [01:08:10] Speaker A: That's kind of where I'm at. And I also think Lamu had to move from left tackle to right, and I do put a little bit of stake in that, in that because of Fano, he had to move and he might be more of a left. I'm literally for the war room. I'm. I'm going to do basically both of them. I'm going to focus on Lamu, but I will keep an eye on Fano. The, the arm length thing is so strange where the combine mismeasured and you're like, I don't know what to make of any of this. [01:08:41] Speaker B: It's called the Will Campbell effect. We're going to be on arm length for a while. We were on quarterback hands for a few years now, and then Joe Burrow showed up and has itty bitty hands, and it hasn't been a problem. We'll come up with something else down the line, like, oh, have you seen his inseam? Can't. Can't have that. But, yeah, arm length is, is the measurement du jour right now. And if you want to hear or hear, I don't know, watch, read. Jake, do all of it. It's. It's right above his head. You can scan that QR code right here, right now. Okay, one last time. If you are a seek help, you have access to a sheet. Put your stuff in it and I will. I will ship it to wherever the hell you are. Yeah, if I gotta eat a couple bucks, I'll eat a couple bucks. [01:09:26] Speaker A: Dieter's the man for doing that. One more thing. If you have a mailbag question, I'm doing one more before the draft. I don't know why I keep assigning myself work when I'm like, what, are you sweating trying to finish this draft guide? I'm a. I'm not. Well, okay, But I'm taking one more mailbag before the draft. Leave your comments below or on the Hutch Report. That's where it will be done. I will have one more mailbag and I will have one more top 50 board before the draft. And. And then we will have the draft guide, folks, which. We will have more details on that to come. But it's. [01:10:02] Speaker B: I'll give you. I'll give you one detail. I think that the first iteration is only going to be draftable players, and that's going to save us a lot of work. I don't think we're going to include the UDFAs, which means that I think more than half of the players that we've assigned ourselves will not be showing up. [01:10:20] Speaker A: Dieter's wrong. All the UDFAs are going to be included. All the UDFAs, and there are so many. Because it's like, it's, It's. It's bizarre. I don't even have, like, a lot of round five guys this year. It's just like, no, after round four, it's like, all right, he's round six or seven, and then undrafted free agents. [01:10:38] Speaker B: It's, it's every Madden simulation you've ever done where you get, you know, because you're not like, scouting, you know, these fake college players and men. You get to, like, round three and you're like, I don't know. Just figure it out for me. [01:10:50] Speaker A: Like, I don't know. I'm just going to guess which, which [01:10:54] Speaker B: team is going to have Gemini figure out their. Their round four draft picks and why is it the Tennessee Titans? [01:11:02] Speaker A: That's right. [01:11:03] Speaker B: That's the end of the show. I'm on with Larry tomorrow night. I will be doing a solo stream, so you can send questions on that one. We'll be doing a solo stream this time on Thursday and back at it next week. But there's two more shows this week, so why would I need to say that? Bye.