Osa Odighizuwa breakdown. Plus: Live Greenlaw, Huff reactions

March 12, 2026 01:03:48
Osa Odighizuwa breakdown. Plus: Live Greenlaw, Huff reactions
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Osa Odighizuwa breakdown. Plus: Live Greenlaw, Huff reactions

Mar 12 2026 | 01:03:48

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[00:00:07] Speaker A: All right. Dieter and Hutch making trades, finding three texts, living the dream. This is. We're just gonna get it right off, right out of the gate. Osa, Odin. Oh, no, I already it up. Odigzua, odigzua o digizua odigi zuwa. I was close. [00:00:27] Speaker B: Harder. [00:00:28] Speaker A: It could have been worse. Oh, diggie Zuwa. [00:00:30] Speaker B: It's harder to write out than it is to actually say. [00:00:37] Speaker A: It's also kind of hard to. It's kind of hard to figure out if this guy's actually good or not. If I'm trying to be, I'm. [00:00:44] Speaker B: I watch to take. Because what happens inevitably, let's just. Here's what happens with any trade. People see the trade happen. People go, oh, is this player good or bad? I would like an answer. Why is he being traded? Is he good or bad? And then they go, okay, well, he didn't have sacks, but he did have pressures. It's like, okay, did you. What did you think of him? It's like, well, I didn't. I didn't watch him, but he did have this many pressures, and there's this stat, which, again, not to say those aren't useful, right? But like, maybe let's. Maybe let's watch him and develop our own opinions. I liked it. I didn't see the disruption that I was kind of hoping for. Part of that last year is doing a lot of, like, looping. Their scheme changed a little bit. Clearly, he made his money in 2024, and in 2025, they went a different direction, and it wasn't quite to what his skill set is like. He's a penetrator get up field. There's a lot of, like, he. He didn't bend that well. Like, I think his three cone was, like, wretched. And. And that showed up just in. Like, he had. He's got burst. He's got that explosion. But he's not a guy that you want, like, looping around all the time. You want him ripping through, up and under or over. Like, he's good at attacking hands. Like, great length, really low center of gravity. So that. And a good motor, so that even when he doesn't get through initially, like, he keeps pushing. As opposed to a lot of the previous 49ers defensive tackles, like Jordan Elliott, who were like, well, I'll just wait until the play's over, understandably. Conserve your energy. When you know there's nothing that's going to happen. But odiggie Zua has effort. There's strain, there's effort, there's Motor and it's not just like he's an effort guy. Like he has some real pop in those hand hands. He has some real ability to defeat them and create pressure. Does end up on the ground a lot more than I want. There's not a lot of like that bend that like I've seen with like I was just watching Zane Durant of Penn State. Yeah, like really low, sort of stumpy guy, but like pretty short. And he just doesn't end up on the ground a lot because he's got this crazy balance I talked about with someone like Zion Young. Oh, Diggie Zua does end up on the ground a lot and he doesn't finish. Like, he doesn't tackle extraordinarily well despite the long arms, I think because of that like little bit of missing bend in that last piece. But he is disruptive. I, I think he's not as disruptive as like on tape as the stats say he is, but he is a disruptive player who I, I like for them to acquire, especially with a really weak defensive tackle mark and with a [00:03:32] Speaker A: third round pick, right? And it's one year guaranteed money, they could, if they really felt some sort of a way, smooth that out, give themselves another year if they wanted to. But it's, it's a pretty, I mean it's not perfectly low risk, right? It's a top 100 pick, but it's [00:03:50] Speaker B: not pretty low risk. As far as pretty low risk done with those picks, it does have like the Christian McCaffrey benefit of like where McCaffrey came over from the Panthers, he had one year and then it was like fully non guaranteed. So you get to have a ton of leverage over the player and say, okay, we'll guarantee you money if you take a pay cut. With McCaffrey, they didn't have that leverage because it's Christian McCaffrey and then they guaranteed him a bunch. But like you can either cut him and be completely clear of his money or change that deal kind of however you want, right? [00:04:23] Speaker A: So I think it's shrewd. I don't mind the third round. It's probably on the rich side of what it could have been. I'm sure they weren't looking for that, but ultimately they had to get this guy. I don't think that you can get a player of this impact in this upcoming draft and sure as hell you weren't going to get one in free agency unless you wanted to throw out a pretty penny, which they were more than willing to do for John Franklin Myers and he's like, I'll take this other guy's pennies. I'm with you 100% on the. The disruption. It's there. It doesn't show. You know, first thing I did was just pull up. You know, you see these big QB pressure numbers and you're on NFL Pro and you just go, click. I would like all of those in a playlist, please. And then you watch them and you. And you watch them and then you go like, oh, you played in the NFC East. Like, that's not actually a pressure. That's just a shitty quarterback. And there was a lot of those and then there were some that were just fantastic, like, legitimately awesome reps. And I'm going to maintain it now, having even watched more, because I think the non QB pressure reps, the QB pressure reps were not as exciting as most of the time when you click on something like that. But the non pressure reps were really good. Like, they were solid. Like, there wasn't that much difference between the two of them. So that's a really good sign in general. But this is effectively, what if Kalia Davis was good like that? It's the only question. Like, you guys know Kalia Davis. Like, he shoots gaps and sometimes he does really cool stuff. Like, what if instead of once out of every seven plays, we did it once out of every three? Like, that's the difference. [00:06:01] Speaker B: And unlike Davis, like, he doesn't get moved in the same way. Like, true there, listen there. He's moved out of a gap when he's trying to get up field. But, like, Davis was like, gone. Like, just totally, totally gone. Sent in another realm. I think. I want. I think his height is not an issue, but it shows up in the run game where taller guys are able to engage and like, track the play. He doesn't do that exceptionally well. I think he was better than I expected him to be bad in the run game, just based on how he was described. He's not excellent, but there is like a base level of what you really want to do is like, let him be aggressive attack and then frankly, I think bring Alfred Collins back to what he was doing at Texas. I know that the 49er system. [00:06:52] Speaker A: No, no, no. This makes sense. [00:06:53] Speaker B: Eat up space and let o diggy zoo and everyone else eat right. And then Collins can be swatting balls at the line of scrimmage and cleaning stuff up because Lord knows he's exceptional at ankle tackles with that reach and strain he has. So scrambles. It's a perfect guy to Be chasing it down. I kind of think that's the way to, to pair it and to sort of compensate for some of the stuff. You could also work, you know, with C.J. west and west just well being and that's staunch in the run game. I think pairing him with both of those guys is going to be nice. [00:07:25] Speaker A: Yeah. And, and I do think that Diggy Zoua couldn't can play some one Tech if needed. Not well, definitely not to stop the run, but in pass. The other aspect of this, and I do think that this is consistently overlooked because we didn't see him in the second half. But the 49ers, right or wrong, they still fundamentally believe in Mikel Williams. And Mikel Williams, his whole shtick is that he slides to three Tech or whatever the hell it is and you know, kind of NASCAR package, whatever you want to call it, he's going to slide in. So now you can put a Diggy Zua at one Tech in that situation because you don't need an Alfred Collins on the field there. C.J. west ain't doing anything for you there. And now you just have gap splitters and double team takers and just dudes with dudes who should scare quarterbacks across the front. Now the other question is who's going to be opposite defensive end in that circumstance. Something we'll talk about a little bit later. But again, when unless they felt some sort of a way about Caleb Banks and had very good intel that he would be 100% available, which would have been a bad plan, there was no way that you can get a bona Fide impact Day 1 starter, Day 1 reps defensive tackle in this draft because you already missed out on it in the defensive tackle free agency class. So this, this was good business. It also then brings into the question, what do you do with the draft now? Because you're at 27, you're at 58 and then my God, you're doing a speed run of 127, 30, 133, 138, [00:09:01] Speaker B: 139, you got to move up or down. [00:09:04] Speaker A: I think you do both. If I'm, if I'm being. I think you either take 27 unless the, you make a short list of three players and unless one of those three players is there, you trade down. And by the way, you can trade down the second. They do trade down. If that's what happens, it's because the third of the three players is not available to them. [00:09:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:27] Speaker A: So I think you trade down to [00:09:28] Speaker B: there it looks like back in the day in the third round when Odiggie Zuo went. Based on the commander's previous interest. [00:09:35] Speaker A: Oh, God, you nailed this. [00:09:36] Speaker B: It was. It was the former Stanford corner who went to the Saints. Who's. Whose name? Oh, I texted you yesterday. And then it's Odiggy Zuwa. 49ers went, all right, we're gonna take Amber Paulson. [00:09:49] Speaker A: Adibo. Paulson, Adibo. [00:09:51] Speaker B: They took Trey Sermon and then Ambry Thomas. [00:09:56] Speaker A: Well, it's so funny. [00:09:57] Speaker B: Ambry Thomas had picked before Nico Collins. [00:10:03] Speaker A: I think it's nothing but good decisions. It's all worked out. Ambry Thomas had one great play. But one of their favorite things to say whenever they acquire someone is that we've loved him in the draft. And unquestionably they love this guy in the draft. Because another thing you noted, which is that the Commanders tried to get a Diggy Zoo last year, which means Adam Peters tried to get him, which means that John lynch really liked him too. Because John lynch and Adam Peters share [00:10:28] Speaker B: a brain apparently out of control. Like signing Charles Men. Who. And I know they signed, like a lot of guys. [00:10:34] Speaker A: He's a good player. [00:10:34] Speaker B: Cycle that are not related. But it is so funny. It's so objectively funny how many read Tread Command Niners. [00:10:44] Speaker A: It's. It's. Yeah. And vice versa. Which we might find out here. The 133, 138, 139 thing. I feel like, because they have six picks, so as much as everyone's like, oh, they need a lot more young talent, like six picks feels commensurate to their needs in general. So if you trade down from 27 and you get yourself, you know, another second rounder, maybe a third rounder. I haven't looked at the chart. You can help me with this. But get yourself. Get yourself back into that, like 50 to 125 range. Get yourself in there now twice. Then you have 127, and then you can trade up with two or three of these fourth round picks to maybe get back into the third round again. Or, you know, slide up. Yeah. Back in the third round again. Like, that would be. That would probably be the way to do it. Like maintain 6, but better diversify the portfolio or actually consolidate the portfolio to be very clear. Which is just second and third rounders only. Which a saucy way to go about it, given the Niners draft history. But the correct way to go about it, if you know anything about the draft. [00:11:59] Speaker B: Yeah, the way I always do trades when I was Doing, you know, mock drafts and whatnot is I would look for gaps. I would look for teams with pick gaps that would want to bridge those gaps. And so you've got a long wait from 58 to 127. You go, all right, let's take 127 and 133 or 127 and 139. [00:12:20] Speaker A: Right. [00:12:21] Speaker B: And, you know, move up a little bit. And then, you know, take 133 or 138 and drop back a little bit and maybe next year, because next year's draft is tremendous. [00:12:34] Speaker A: Now, what round would you want to load up on, value wise? [00:12:40] Speaker B: Because it's interesting. So there's a very steep cutoff. Like, it gets really weird around, like, round three. I, like, kind of don't want anything to do with round three this year. Late round two, round three. It's like, a lot of guys I don't like. I frankly, I kind of like, actually. I mean, there's a lot of guys that, like, around pick a hundred starting there. I really like it. So I. I kind of like where their picks are at, frankly. Like, okay, if I was doing it, I think I would. I would trade down and trade up, and I would do both. But there are a lot of guys in those slots that I'm, like, pretty good with. Like Dallin Bentley, the tight end I'm obsessed with. Obsessed with out of Utah. [00:13:26] Speaker A: Utah. [00:13:28] Speaker B: It's interesting because there's, like, a lot of guys that are Michael Trigg and moving guys like Justin Jolie, where you're like, are you even a tight end? What is tight end anymore? And then there's Bentley, who's, like, a really physical guy who tested pretty well. And I'm like, he could go anywhere from pick 75 to 150. I don't know what that range is. And there's quite a few guys that are in that range where I think you kind of want to be on the cusp of 100 for somebody who's going to be a sneaky value player. [00:13:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, it's interesting that you feel like the. The gap that is, you know, kind of the. The black hole, the peril period of the. Of the draft is exactly. Kind of between like 60 and 125. Is that a fair. [00:14:15] Speaker B: Where they got rid of. And I. And it's like, yeah, I kind of get it. I kind of. [00:14:19] Speaker A: They might be on to something. I'm sorry, Am I seeing this correctly? [00:14:23] Speaker B: Yeah, hold on. [00:14:24] Speaker A: I'm gonna go check. You keep Talking about picks 125 and stuff, I think we discussed. [00:14:28] Speaker B: Okay. So yesterday I was trying to vibe code just a little draft board for myself to visualize the 49ers depth chart with all their caps and all the voids and stuff. If I can get it fully working, I will add it to the draft guide again. Hint, hint. Bryce Huff. [00:14:46] Speaker A: That's what I'm looking up. [00:14:47] Speaker B: You know what? Okay, give me one sec here if this is accurate. [00:14:53] Speaker A: I'm not sure. Okay. Yeah, he's. He's just yapping on Instagram after doing his Snowboarding. Okay. [00:15:02] Speaker B: The 49ers brought back Drake Greenlaw also. [00:15:05] Speaker A: That also just happened that. That's not surprising in the least bit. [00:15:08] Speaker B: One year, seven and a half million dollar deal. [00:15:11] Speaker A: Okay, that's. [00:15:12] Speaker B: Which is probably more like 1 year, 3 million with incentives on youth Lane, maybe. What is going on? Okay, so Bryce Huff is retired. [00:15:23] Speaker A: Not surprised. Okay, let's. Let's be clear about this. [00:15:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:27] Speaker A: Bryce Huff was almost certainly going to get cut in the next 24 hours, almost certainly because he was due a big roster bonus, so. And the Niners were not interested in paying that, to my knowledge. So I'm not, I'm not, I'm not trying to disparage the dude as he's walking away or anything like that, but this feels like something to wear a little bit of. A little bit on the team side, a little bit on the player side. This is a way for kind of, you know, narrative control, if you will. [00:16:02] Speaker B: Okay, so a few things. I did text Dieter about a week or two ago where I saw the video of Bryce Huff snowboarding. [00:16:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:14] Speaker B: And I went, okay. Don't teams usually have clauses in their contract about, you know, activities like that? Like, I've never seen another video of an NFL player snowboarding in the off season. It's not to say they don't do it. I'm just like, the fact that he's on, like a very public page happily snowboarding, I thought was strange not. Not to go snowboarding. [00:16:37] Speaker A: Like, great. [00:16:38] Speaker B: He looked like he was having a great time. It's just like, that's usually something that's in a contract that says don't do that and then to publicly do it. So. [00:16:46] Speaker A: Well, then what did I, what did I tell you? What I told you is he's not going to have a contract in a week. [00:16:51] Speaker B: Right. And so. [00:16:53] Speaker A: But now it seems as if he's not interested in signing with somebody else. That's what it sounds like to me. He's like, hey, man, I'm about to get Cut and we're going to call it a day. Good run. Good. Good for him. [00:17:03] Speaker B: He got a really good. He got a really good deal. He got out. That's great undersized guy where the game is going to wear on him more than it is other players. I thought he was much better in the run game last year than I really expected. So. So 12 minutes ago he just posted Bryce Huff is retired. And then dream simultaneously signs with the Niners. As Dieter earlier in this own podcast said we. We know what they're going to do there. [00:17:31] Speaker A: I mean without quite. I mean it's just. Listen, you don't fly to Texas once to. To miss out the second time around, right? Like total rebound play. Come back to me, baby. This is a Tom Hanks 90s Rom com. This is. And it's. It's exactly what they were. Oh man. Who could have seen this coming, Jake? Who could have possibly foreseen that he's not good. I really. I feel like it's almost personal at this point. Who do we have on the Green Law thing by the way? I'm sorry, I'm kind of trying to do this live sourcing. Okay. Rap Rap was kind of getting his ass kicked if I'm being. [00:18:15] Speaker B: He was Rapaport. [00:18:18] Speaker A: But like let me make sure I [00:18:20] Speaker B: have the most disappointing element of this is for me personally is I think it's a sick linebacker class and I [00:18:29] Speaker A: don't know if that precludes them from perhaps going for a future Mike and [00:18:35] Speaker B: joked about trading Martin to Salah. [00:18:39] Speaker A: Like yeah, put your money where your mouth is. [00:18:42] Speaker B: Take anything for Nick Martin. [00:18:44] Speaker A: Like correct. Because I take like deal. I do a 6, 7 swap for him. Like Schefter has it now. So you know that means the agents have reached out. I forget who his agent is. Yeah. So that again not. Not a huge surprise when it comes to. Does he have it. Sleeper just sent me a notification saying yes, but it's not on his Twitter. [00:19:12] Speaker B: Probably. I don't know. He 2 minutes ago on I don't [00:19:16] Speaker A: know why I'm trying to find sourcing for something that was obviously going to happen. [00:19:20] Speaker B: It's. It's Ian Rapoport. It's very legitimate. [00:19:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:25] Speaker B: Yes. [00:19:26] Speaker A: I don't disagree. The Greenlaw thing makes perfect sense. He's somebody who brings serious juice. He's somebody who can play weak side. The reason that, you know, Denver was kind of out on him. One he never really came back from the Achilles injury in the way that he needed to. They put him at Mike a lot of Times like that was never going to be good for him. There's a legitimate shot that he never looks like the same Dre Greenlaw again. In all likelihood, he won't. But weak side linebacker compete with Dee Winters. See what you got. Knows the system, understands the rules of engagement when it comes to, you know, playing next to Fred Warner, playing in a wide nine. I think there's a lot to. To like about this. I'm sure that the deal is exceptionally team friendly. He just made his money with, with Denver. He wasn't interested in, you know, being out there like Dell Curry finding out that, you know, they're drinking charcoal water in these streets. [00:20:25] Speaker B: So, yeah, there was a weirdness there with the. And then just not fitting the vibe and going, what are we doing? Like these practices? And everybody talked about how hard the Niners practices are, but it sounds like during the season the Broncos still had something was weird there. [00:20:42] Speaker A: Broncos do a lot. Yeah, apparently they do really long, arduous in season practices. By the way, no one can get their story straight on if the Niners practice too hard or too little. No one can get it right. So I'm just going to think that they practice normal amounts hard in training [00:20:56] Speaker B: camp and they don't practice in the regular season ever. [00:21:00] Speaker A: Sounds about right to me. [00:21:01] Speaker B: They have a bye week. [00:21:04] Speaker A: Do you? I'm a firm believer in the year after the year. So the reason that, you know, you and I are both adamant that the Niners need to do something at tight end is because they say, oh, well, George Kittle's going to come back. It's like, but that's not George Kittle. That's some other guy wearing 85. And then in 2027, maybe George Kittle, as we've known him as, back 32, by the way. Yeah, he's in his 30s and so he's 32. [00:21:29] Speaker B: He's going to turn 33 this year. [00:21:30] Speaker A: Like Dre Greenlaw tears his Achilles tendon in February of 2024 at the Super Bowl. And so that first year totally shot me. He comes back, they had to restrain him from playing. Like they took him out at halftime of a game one time just because they're like, yeah, we gotta, we gotta play it smart here. And then he goes to Denver, New system, new rules, all this stuff, new position. In a lot of cases, I don't want to speak with, you know, impunity on that or, you know, with certainty on that, but I'm pretty sure they, they trained him at Mike or that they wanted him at Mike. And they. They run a little bit of it. They run a Fangio style defense. So it's, you know, two mics. This. This makes sense. It could turn out to be disastrous, but it costs them nothing. It provides the value of. It provides the value of getting a weak side linebacker, which they desperately needed. I do think that, you know, don't sleep on De Winters. Beating him out wouldn't be great for Dre. [00:22:36] Speaker B: There's a. Is he fully washed element to all of this. Sure, maybe. I mean, can his body hold up? [00:22:44] Speaker A: See? But the Nick Martin thing is hilarious, though. It's like, what is it? [00:22:49] Speaker B: You. [00:22:49] Speaker A: What do you do here? 75 just down the drain. [00:22:52] Speaker B: So you can't play Sam. You have to be a will. And now you're third in the pecking order. If you're healthy, maybe below that, frankly. [00:23:02] Speaker A: Yeah, because they brought back Garrett Wallow, [00:23:05] Speaker B: just a fascinating pick. That again, we were awfully low on him, but we. I wanted to give him a chance. There was. There is upside. [00:23:15] Speaker A: It's just we've been wrong before, you [00:23:18] Speaker B: know, Be wrong again. [00:23:20] Speaker A: Well, I wouldn't go that far, but it's. Yeah, we did again. Robert Sala. Come. Come get your. Come get your man's. You know, you're the one who. You're the one who is out here, hardtail about. So let's go back to the Huff thing real fast, I guess. Congratulations. It seemed like a rather dour video. I didn't have the audio on, but seemed quite sad about it. [00:23:45] Speaker B: Lovely background, though. It seemed like he was somewhere nice. [00:23:49] Speaker A: I. I hope. I hope he lives his best life from this point on. I hope that he feels good about his decision. And, you know, we wish Bryce Huff nothing but the best. He was a good 49er for a year, but, yeah, they do. They now need an edge, even with, you know, the. The belief that Mikel comes back and can catch up, like. Well, okay, just run it through me. You know, you get Bosa back, you get Mike. [00:24:12] Speaker B: Yeah. So I'm looking at the depth chart that I built out on this thing that I tried. [00:24:16] Speaker A: Yes, you. You and your goddamn Claude vibe. Coding. [00:24:20] Speaker B: We have a problem. Nick Bose, permanent underclass over here, returning from an acl. Mikel Williams, returning from an acl. Sam. Oh, not actually officially signed yet because somebody could offer him a bigger deal, but he. The 49ers can match Keon White under contract for one more year after that shot. [00:24:40] Speaker A: Shot in the ankle by Lil Baby. [00:24:43] Speaker B: Correct. I had actually forgotten about that. [00:24:47] Speaker A: So I don't know where I don't know what you have to code that in as, but like shot in the ankle by little baby is an entirely separate faction of injury. [00:24:58] Speaker B: Before Brian Robinson became a free agent, they had three players who were shot on the roster, which is the hort. Just. I don't have a take. That's just insane. Okay, so Edge. Everybody keeps talking about Joey Bosa. [00:25:19] Speaker A: I mean, probably. [00:25:20] Speaker B: I don't probably, but to me, well, does that actually make sense? Does that actually make sense for a team that like, realistically has three guys coming back from major injuries and probably wants someone to be healthy? Doesn't it make more sense to spend like a premium draft pick that they love to spend premium draft picks and say, hey, we're actually going to take one of our fourth rounders and trade up and we're going to take Zion Young in the second. The second round because, yeah, he fits that mold. I'm just, I'm just. [00:25:54] Speaker A: That makes more sense to me. I mean, it does. That makes a lot more sense. [00:25:57] Speaker B: Jakis Jackis from Illinois, just on pure spec. [00:26:01] Speaker A: Okay, well, let's, let's talk about what they need, right? So like digazooa. Like the big thing is they need a gaps shooting three technique. Now I understand that most people who cover this team on a daily basis have no flipping idea what that means and couldn't, you know, couldn't find one on a tape if I pointed it at. Just got out the big long stick and pointed at it on the monitor and said, this is what that is. And they'd be like, oh, defensive line wide 9. Just spouting terms that coaches say. So what do they need now that Huff is gone? I don't think they need another 5 tech, which is what Bosa is at this point. They need a true 9. Fire off the edge. Going to suck in the run game, but got crazy bend and gets to a quarterback on third down. Because Bosa should be playing strong side defensive end in the NASCAR package. Next to Mikel, next to, next to a Diggy Zua and then the next guy down should be the speed rusher who gets home. That's my thought. Do you disagree with that assessment? Because when you, when you have. When you already have. Forgive me, 91 and you know, and what's his number? Shit, I'm off. I'm off. Okuwanu. Thank you. Sorry, I wanted to go through a bunch of Nigerian names. When you have Okuwanu and you have Keon White, you already have first and second down, five texts. Like beyond Mikel, you Don't have anybody who has juice who can back up Nick. You just don't. You don't have anyone with a bag besides Nick. So you need to go get someone with a bag. That's where I stand. [00:27:42] Speaker B: I personally don't love this defensive end class in the draft. There, there are. You know, if you were going to talk about if you wanted to go light if you wanted to say hey we want like a speedy bendy edge rusher who. That's what we want him to do. Guy out of Tennessee, Joshua Josephs who's way too thin for my taste. [00:28:05] Speaker A: Yeah, you like him thick. [00:28:07] Speaker B: Not a true edge but he's got incredibly long arms. He can really separate from his tackles and drive. It's frankly not totally dissimilar to the tennis former defensive Tennessee edge who we will not speak of in terms of currently incarcerated. We're moving on. I actually compared Joshua Joseph's a little bit to like Nick Herbig like a just a speed. Speed edge. So like that. If we're talking about that mold that could make sense now. Round two, round three. I don't know. It's very weird class. People are going to like shout out like Derek Moore who I think has legitimate anger issues and I don't think is that talented. Watch him against Ohio State where will Kacmar who's just a blocking tight end literally makes him have a meltdown on every play. It's embarrassing. And he also did the same against Iheanature at the. At the com or not the good [00:29:11] Speaker A: no, it's a good no he just [00:29:13] Speaker B: gets so mad at and it's like hey be better, be better at the game and then you won't have to get so mad. Anyway, I've lost the plot here but I think in terms of like a speedy guy. Romello height would be another one where you talk about speed bend but like not necessarily guys that would fit how the 49ers have drafted. [00:29:41] Speaker A: Well that's. How about this, the draft. I agree with you. You're probably stretching at 27 for Zion. If recent intel's right he's probably more in like the 35 to 45 range as it stands never know it only takes one. So that might be a good trade down scenario. But that's now putting a lot of eggs in the Zion young basket which dangerous. [00:30:06] Speaker B: I got one. I got one more name for you that I think probably makes the most sense in terms of how they've drafted veteran players. Mazador. [00:30:17] Speaker A: Yes. [00:30:17] Speaker B: That makes. [00:30:18] Speaker A: And he's already a Veteran. He's, he's halfway to his pension at 25 years old. [00:30:23] Speaker B: You're talking about a guy where he's saying, hey, we want you day one to have a very clear role and you can. And he's polished. Like he's a guy that makes a lot of sense. He can, he can slot inside, he can slot out, but he is crafty as a true rusher and has produced that one actually makes a lot of sense to me. [00:30:43] Speaker A: I mean if they want to actually spend some money, Al Quadi Muhammad is someone you and I have talked about a bunch on the channel. Like that's exactly what they need right now, which is somebody who is just out there to see quarterback, kill quarterback. I don't know what these ten other guys do. There's some dude in front of me, I'm going to get around him. I got to go kill quarterback. It's exactly what he did with Detroit last year and it's what the Niners need here. They need that, you know, that extra true bonafide rusher for when they get into third downs and you don't need to worry about first and second down with whomever you're getting. Like it's a true situational third down rusher. I think Alquadee Muhammad does a little bit of a better job on first and second than he gets credit for. But they did a better when once they took that away from him in Detroit it's like, oh, this guy's really good at rushing the passer. So I. The fact that he's still on the market indicates that we're talking about. I'm not saying it's like cheap, but it's probably an incentive laden deal. It's probably something to where it looks like 10, but it's really four. And it doesn't appear as if the Niners are terribly upset with spending money right now though. [00:31:56] Speaker B: They're just really spend more until they figure out what the deal is with Trent and if they're going to restructure Bosa because those are really the only two ways. I mean they could touch Brock's money but like most of that stuff is locked up. It's really Bosa and Trent Williams is how they open up more cap space. They'll get more from iuk. I'm sure they'll clear a little bit with Bryce Huff though. There's going to be some dead money with that too. I don't know. Mechanics of that gets very strange with retirements, how that all works. But yeah, they don't Have a terribly. They don't have a lot more to spend until they clear some of that. But they also show deals, so strangely, it might not matter. [00:32:39] Speaker A: There won't be any. I don't think there's any dead cap with a retirement here. [00:32:47] Speaker B: If they come there. Usually. [00:32:49] Speaker A: Well. [00:32:50] Speaker B: But depends on. [00:32:52] Speaker A: Let's see who files their paperwork fastest because, you know, he was due 5, 3 on the cap with no guaranteed money this year. All of that, obviously, is then saved. And then next year was a void at 11.7. But if he's cut, that doesn't operate. There is the. I'm looking right at otc. I mean, I trust your word on that more than mine. [00:33:14] Speaker B: I know. But there was also like another. I looked at it in a different way and it said the money would be dead. So it's. There's a little bit of, like, conflicting information. I. I am not sure. [00:33:26] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I just can't. I can't get anywhere. I guess you could say that There's. If you did a restructure extension. Yeah. This. It's. Well, that's where we like to be. What else were we going to talk about? Greenlaw's back. Huff's retired, so they need a defensive end now. That pops it up. [00:33:48] Speaker B: Mike Evans in. Yeah. So Diggy Zua is in. Greenlaw is back. Now they brought in Darian Lau as a backup tackle out. [00:33:58] Speaker A: Garrett Wallow back. [00:34:01] Speaker B: Garrett Wallow is back. Juan Jennings will not be back, as we know. [00:34:06] Speaker A: Do we. Do we know what Juwan's market is? I haven't heard anything from anybody about that. [00:34:11] Speaker B: Not sure. Not sure. [00:34:16] Speaker A: By the way, also, do you find it weird that Brandon IU hasn't been officially cut yet? [00:34:23] Speaker B: It seems like they're trying to see if there's a trade, which there won't be. But remember how long. Remember the Jimmy thing? So. [00:34:33] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Can they have Brandon Iuk working on a side field throughout the entirety of training camp? And then when Mike Evans does his hamstring, they bring him back on a cheaper deal. Can they do that? [00:34:42] Speaker B: Much better. Much better. He's just driving Marshawn lynch style on the practice field with a go kart. [00:34:50] Speaker A: Don't give him a cart. All those scooters the guys take to practice. Just. Who knows? Who knows? This. [00:34:58] Speaker B: That's. [00:34:58] Speaker A: You know, let's save that one. That's a really good question. [00:35:02] Speaker B: So. [00:35:04] Speaker A: Huh, huh, huh. 27. [00:35:08] Speaker B: Yep. [00:35:11] Speaker A: We've been thinking tackle. We've been thinking wide receiver. We gotta be thinking edge now. Up that list. Right. [00:35:22] Speaker B: So Let me just cross off some positions. Not running back, not tight end. [00:35:28] Speaker A: Unless it's, oh, Jake, we forgot to mention Patrick Taylor's back. [00:35:34] Speaker B: That's true. Shout out Pat. By the way, the running back market looks terrible. [00:35:39] Speaker A: Well, I got three names. Legitimately, I think Rashad White is still a viable option. [00:35:45] Speaker B: He just got. You're wrong. [00:35:47] Speaker A: By whom? Who? [00:35:48] Speaker B: He was signed earlier today. [00:35:50] Speaker A: Okay, well, I missed that. Najee Harris by the Commanders. [00:35:53] Speaker B: So [00:35:55] Speaker A: of course he was Najee Harris, as it was predetermined will be the guy that they signed. I like Emmanuel Wilson more. I don't kind of get why. [00:36:05] Speaker B: I actually think that's the guy they should sign. And I don't actually want. I actually don't think anyone else is worth it. [00:36:12] Speaker A: Why does no one like Emmanuel Wilson? Every time I see him out there, I'm like, oh, this guy's pretty good. Like not great, but pretty good. Seems to understand the concept of what it is they're trying to do in an outside zone system. Okay. But it will be Naji. [00:36:24] Speaker B: Right. But let's. Let's stick with the draft thing before we get to the free. [00:36:28] Speaker A: Apologies. Sorry. [00:36:29] Speaker B: I just figured Patrick Taylor edge becomes a strong one. Not linebacker. Tackle still in play tackle. Iol really like it feels like in order. Yeah. Although if Emmanuel Prenon is sitting right there 27, I would personally find. Find it difficult to say no. But that. That has not been their style. So. [00:36:55] Speaker A: Well, you get him all the way to his age 30 season with his fifth year option. [00:36:59] Speaker B: I know unfortunately he is 25. I don't care. He's beautiful. Stallion of a man. [00:37:05] Speaker A: He's. He's a magnificent. [00:37:06] Speaker B: He's a magnificent piece because that's another guy. You know, again, I think you'd want both guys in round two, but they're not going to get to 58. [00:37:15] Speaker A: I think pretty firmly that you cannot take an interior offensive lineman unless it's Quinton Nelson in the first round. I just. I don't. I don't think he can do it because of the fifth year option thing. [00:37:27] Speaker B: But it's. I'm. I with there's. It gets dicey. The value is. [00:37:32] Speaker A: I mean, it's tricky. It's not as if the Ravens didn't want Lynn. [00:37:35] Speaker B: Not helpful because it matches up with the tackle market. Because all that's. [00:37:39] Speaker A: Right. That's exactly grouped together. That's what I'm saying. So if you pick it right, you get screwed and if you pick it wrong, you were already screwed. So there's really no winning in that Regard. So I just think that you have to. There is some level of pragmatism that has to be in play when it comes to, like, I don't mind taking a safety. I don't mind taking it. Like, there are some positions where it's like, oh, well, those positions don't get paid very much. It's like, great, that's going to make the fifth year option easy to manage. Like, I don't care about that. It's specifically, you know, defensive line and offensive line where they get all lumped together. Like, that's. That's a real issue. And I think that the Linderbaum thing is just the clearest case point of why you can't do it. And they're going to run up against it. With Graham Barton, they're going to run up. Like, there's going to be a lot of teams that run up against this. And if you don't have any positional flexibility, that's a real issue. So you need to think tackle and slide inside if you want to take someone in the first round. But I think that tackles are the only offensive lineman you can take in the first. [00:38:43] Speaker B: Yeah, let me just go through a few names. At tackle, it's just Kaden Proctor, frankly, for me. Yeah, it's just Kaden Proctor, guard. I think you could. I think if you traded down into round two, you could say, oh, yeah, everyone's available then. [00:38:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:00] Speaker B: And besantis that. That becomes an option. You pick up some more draft capital. You don't get locked into that annoying fifth year thing where it's just not useful. Great. I don't think defensive tackle. I can't even. Unless it's Peter woods sitting there at 27. [00:39:18] Speaker A: Even then just makes sense. [00:39:19] Speaker B: Even. Yeah, Even then. I'm like, well, I want to leverage that and let somebody else. [00:39:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:24] Speaker B: Bite on edge. I find it. I find it ugly. I feel like there's Bailey at the top and there's Reese, and then you go. And there's Bane, and then you're like, all right. Well, I think. [00:39:39] Speaker A: I mean, I think you mentioned him earlier. I think Mesador at 27 makes a hell of a lot of sense. [00:39:45] Speaker B: He's the only one. He's the only one. I think. [00:39:48] Speaker A: Yeah. And it might just work out great for him. I mean. Yeah, I think he's one of the. I think he's one of the guys you put the sticker next to and just say, if he's there, we take it. If not, we get the hell up out of here. [00:39:58] Speaker B: Because it's not a Cassius Hal or an arm. Mason Thomas, who. The same person in my mind. T.J. parker, I think is just not explosive enough. [00:40:06] Speaker A: I think they're gonna like TJ Parker more than we will, but. [00:40:09] Speaker B: Yeah, but I. I think, right, so, like at edge, you pretty much got One option at 27, I think it's Mezzano, I think that makes the most sense. You pretty much got one tackle option. That's Kaden. Proctor. [00:40:19] Speaker A: Proctor. [00:40:20] Speaker B: And then you go to wide receiver where there's more options. Right. You could say Concepcion. You could talk May. I don't think Elijah Surratt is a first rounder. I. But like, maybe they might. [00:40:33] Speaker A: They might think he is. [00:40:35] Speaker B: Him and Omar Cooper, guys on the fringe, Brazil. I don't know where he goes. Jeremy Bernard. [00:40:42] Speaker A: I don't. You know what? Watching Jeremy Bernard, I really like him. I think he's going to be a damn good pro. I do not think he's first round worthy. [00:40:50] Speaker B: I don't either. I don't either. I think he's a second rounder and I think he's a really good second round pick. I'm just talking about. These are fringe guys. But like so far the only guys you feel great about, like drafting at 27, Arcaden, Proctor or Mezador at those two positions outside of that corner is interesting. I think you can make a case for corner. I don't necessarily know that they'll want to go at 27, but this is a class where, like, there's a lot of question marks. There's a lot of positions I don't like. And yeah, if like Chris Johnson is somehow there. [00:41:20] Speaker A: San Diego State. [00:41:21] Speaker B: Chris Johnson out of San Diego State. Right. [00:41:25] Speaker A: I think you do it, but I also think he might be there. 40. [00:41:28] Speaker B: I also think there's a couple other guys. There's like Davison Igbosin, who's really good but has had some iffy reps. There's Devin Moore out of Florida, who I really like. [00:41:41] Speaker A: Pons is fun, but he doesn't make sense. I. I don't think I'm not in on Abney, but it only takes one. How about. How about this? I think there are three names. You've mentioned two of them already. These are the ones you put the sticker next to. It's Proctor, it's Mezador, it's Sadiq. There is. There is a world in which Sadiq falls to 27. I don't think we live in it, but there is one that it works. [00:42:07] Speaker B: I got one more for you. [00:42:08] Speaker A: Sure. [00:42:09] Speaker B: And it's a safety and it's not the safety everybody picks out because he's so fucking Sorry. Excuse me. So obvious. He's just like, it's not. It's not Emmanuel McNeil Warren. It's Dylan Thienaman who won't be there. But if Thienaman is there, that's okay. That, that's. That's a safety. [00:42:28] Speaker A: You're telling me that John lynch ain't taking another. Another head hunting white dude? Yeah, I'm with just. [00:42:35] Speaker B: He is just phenomenal. He's like, I think, impossible to pass up. I don't think he's going to get past 20, frankly. And then linebacker, I just don't think the value is going to be there. I just don't think you can talk yourself into it. After bringing Greenlaw back and Winters in round one, there's a lot of good linebackers that you're probably going to be able to find until like round three, four. [00:42:57] Speaker A: So, yeah, I do think my Anthony Hill dream is dead unless he's there at 58, like, which he will be. [00:43:04] Speaker B: So to recap, [00:43:09] Speaker A: a lot of things happening. [00:43:11] Speaker B: Mezador, Proctor, Sadiq. [00:43:15] Speaker A: Sadiq. But, you know, again, we're being aggressive here with the Oregon Boys. Sadiq and Thiaman. Those are, those are your four. [00:43:23] Speaker B: Those are guys who you'd feel good about. I'd also feel great about Brazil, but I don't know. His evaluation is totally different for a lot of different people. But I think he's very clearly around one talent. He's. He had some drops in the second half of the season. Some disappointing tape, but, like, you can't teach what he's got. [00:43:40] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Run to the podium, you get your fastest. I finally figured out a job for. For Jacob Cowing. It's to get the sheet. I know it's all digital now. It's to get the sheet and run it to Goodell as fast as possible. Make yourself useful, young man, so that you can get Kenyan Sadiq. It is a good linebacker class. I do think that they probably look for another Mike, but we're talking depth now because you have two very good options at will, maybe even more. They don't value will. They treat will kind of like guard unless it's a truly special player. Do you think you need to. We need to be maybe a bit more cognizant of safety, which sucks for us because it's a really difficult position to evaluate on film. [00:44:29] Speaker B: It's a good class, man. Like, I mean, there's. There's here's the thing. You say good class. It's tricky because there's like a lot to like and a lot to hate. Like, I just watched Arizona where, where people are like their top players. Genesis Smith, who is as soft as Danny. Danny. Dennis Sutton is for Penn State on the edge. Least favorite player to watch. You're like, oh, he's so. He's got so much athletic ability. He's huge. Play. Play like you care. [00:44:58] Speaker A: Like, not a fan of the Dennis system over here. [00:45:01] Speaker B: So soft. He just plays with. And you're like, you were like 6, 6, 280 pounds. What's happening here with bend. And you just have no interest. Okay. Okay. I'm. It's. And I'm insane for getting angry, but safety. Safety does have a lot of great options. Like them is tremendous. I don't know if you can draft another Penn State safety, but there's something to Wheatley. I really like A.J. halsey out of LSU. [00:45:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:29] Speaker B: Jalen Kilgore's got something. Is he more of like a nickel? I'm not sure. [00:45:34] Speaker A: Bud Clark from TC's A Little Too aggressive for me. [00:45:38] Speaker B: Iffy. I agree. [00:45:42] Speaker A: I'll tell you somebody, I'll tell you somebody that I liked. Vijay Payne, first off, great safety name Vijay Payne out of Kansas State. He's got like an 85 inch wingspan. It's frightening. He looks like Kevin Durant out there. It's fantastic. [00:45:57] Speaker B: Incredible. [00:45:59] Speaker A: And I'm just kind of in on the concept of Kansas State as just. I like Kansas State prospects. [00:46:06] Speaker B: A good guard this year too, Defensive backfield. Yeah, Yeah. I do think they, they're going to have to. They're going to have to value safety at some, at some point in this draft. You're gonna have to take one. There's just, I think there's a lot of different options and a lot of different teams will see one player is completely undraftable and other teams will go, well, we're gonna use him in this exact role and he's a third rounder, a fourth rounder for us. It's just a strange class and it's a difficult position to evaluate. [00:46:35] Speaker A: So let me, let me throw out some free agent names before we get too much, you know, get into questions and stuff. And I want you to think, well, I'm throwing these names out there. I want you to think about the favorite tape that you watched this week who's like a guy that you really enjoyed breaking down. I already gave you mine and VJ pay. Wide receivers still out there and free Agency that I think that could be viable for the Niners now that they have their X receiver, Calvin Austin still available. That's somebody that they were interested in in the IU situation. I think Jalen Tolbert is an interesting concept for them. Obviously not an El return guy, but a viable return guy with a little bit of size as well. Kind of play a big slot. I'm kind of thinking in the slot area now. Darnell Mooney has come from Shanahan Systems before, is going to be able to run the routes. Probably not be very good, but he'll be able to do it as kind of a backup ax. Little Jordan Humphrey. Not actually little. 6 foot 4. [00:47:33] Speaker B: He already signed with the Broncos today. [00:47:35] Speaker A: Oh, he did that today. Okay, great. Clearly worked. Were on top of it. I was watching Moana. No, you have a family. [00:47:44] Speaker B: It's okay, dude, we got. [00:47:45] Speaker A: We had no. We had no. No power from like 11pm on, it dumped like 2ft of snow up here in the Cascades. And then, you know, we're all just sitting around and power goes out. And so, yeah, luckily it came on again this morning, but it was like, oh, boy. We were gonna have an interesting, interesting podcast if we were going to have one at all. Okay. Little Jordan Humphrey. [00:48:08] Speaker B: No. [00:48:09] Speaker A: 22 Atwell. Did he get signed today? [00:48:12] Speaker B: I don't think so. [00:48:13] Speaker A: Neither do I. And then Tim Patrick as a backup X option as well. I like Tim Patrick. Old. Old manners. [00:48:20] Speaker B: Do love to get a guy where you're like, oh, where's. What's he been up to? And then they're like, he's a practice squad veteran for us for all of the season. That feels like ten pack. [00:48:30] Speaker A: No, no, no. But the problem is then they call them up for weeks 17 and 18, and they need them to get six. Six targets per game. [00:48:36] Speaker B: That's. [00:48:36] Speaker A: That's how that goes. Tight end still on the board that I like. Tyler Conklin's got a weird thing going on. He got healthy, scratched late last year with the Chargers. He was a good tight end for the jets, though, and wouldn't mind a flyer on there, though. Oh, yeah, no, listen, you're just trying to get through the year, buddy. [00:48:57] Speaker B: Mo. [00:48:57] Speaker A: Ali Cox, you know, plays every game. Elite blocking, tight end, good red zone guy. Connor Hayward's a name that I've heard bandied with with the Niners before. I'm not the biggest Connor Heywood guy, but, you know, he's a person getting fit. There's not a lot, but technically they're getting thicker, but they're not as exciting like you want to talk John Fitzpatrick, the Packers blocking tight end, because I can. I can tell you that he's. He's got good form and is slow over the middle. So those are your four tight ends. I can't even give you a Will Disley because he. Who was a good tight end, but he got cut with a failed physical designation by the Chargers, so. And then they still need a guard, I think. And Kevin Zeitler, Wyatt Teller, happened in free agency. Well, what about a Dan Brunskill? Would that change your mind? What about a Dylan Reddens? Would that change your mind? Redoons. What about. What about a Will Hernandez? Jake, can I interest you in a Will Hernandez? [00:49:58] Speaker B: You can't interest me in a Will Hernandez, a guy who is a very good guard coming off two seasons of not being healthy and not playing a [00:50:05] Speaker A: lot and sounds like a Niner already. [00:50:08] Speaker B: Perfect. You've got your Ben Bartch for the season already. [00:50:13] Speaker A: He's also more of a Mauler. Right. Will Hernandez is out here looking to. To, you know, bounce at the club a little bit. And. [00:50:20] Speaker B: Yep. [00:50:21] Speaker A: Yeah, he does a mean sob. He's throwing dudes to the ground. He's. He's out there picking up 15 a game. Nice guy by all accounts, but he's a Mauler. So if you're trying to, you know, stack up against Seattle. [00:50:32] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the option I like. I think in terms of the physicality you're trying to add, I think it makes a lot of sense. [00:50:39] Speaker A: All right, who's the guy you liked watching this week? [00:50:42] Speaker B: Can I give you a safety who I barely think is draftable? [00:50:47] Speaker A: Would I expect anything less from you? [00:50:49] Speaker B: So what I was going to say is when I was watching Arizona, they had, like, three DBs. They had Genesis Smith [00:50:58] Speaker A: just off the board. [00:50:59] Speaker B: That's incredible. They had Genesis Smith. They had. Where is it? Where is it? Sorry, there's so many. [00:51:07] Speaker A: Oh, you're going through the three Arizona safeties. [00:51:11] Speaker B: Yeah, there's another one that. Whose name I forgot. [00:51:14] Speaker A: I'll pull it. I'll pull it up. And you just keep talking. [00:51:16] Speaker B: Oh, it's trade in Stooks. Who's listening to cb, Not a real name. He's very athletic and also is really hit or miss. But a guy who's going to be, like, very difficult, probably on an undrafted free agent deal, very difficult to keep off a roster is Dalton Johnson. He is just such a high IQ player. He made like. He seemed like the only guy on that team that really wanted to tackle he's probably smaller than me, so he's got like a ratty little nickel. Not a draftable frame, but he's so sharp between the ears. Makes so many smart plays. Was the best safety on the team by far. Just willing to basically perish on the field. Punched way above his weight and there were some reps where he got beat with like, physicality. But I was watching him and he had to cover Trig against Baylor. [00:52:11] Speaker A: Yeah, big boy. [00:52:12] Speaker B: Like a lot of reps and he had some breakups and sometimes Trig got him because Trigg's enormous and this guy's small, but, like, he was very feisty and I think played in phase well. Overwhelmingly got downhill quick. Just a guy that, like, you're going to watch in camp. You're going to be like, he's too small, but he's going to keep making plays and you're going to be like, how do I keep him off the roster? At the end of the day, you can't. Dalton Johnson, not, Not our Dom. [00:52:42] Speaker A: Yeah. Also also covers the warriors for NBC Sports. Bay Area doesn't do a good job. [00:52:47] Speaker B: I mean, I, I didn't, I didn't. I didn't think he had it in him, but Dalton's been playing great ball. [00:52:51] Speaker A: He's got a two year old. He's covering the warriors and playing. Listen, this nil shit's gone too far. [00:52:57] Speaker B: Safety for Arizona. [00:52:59] Speaker A: I don't know how he does it. The southwest flights to Tucson really add up. It gets a deal. Okay, let's do some comments if you want to do the honors. [00:53:08] Speaker B: Take. We're. We sort of talked about this. Now that Huff retired, does it make sense to go for Joey Bose and draft an edge in the early round? I don't know if there are any good edge prospects in this year's draft. Why I'm asking you two experts Love the pod. Love. [00:53:20] Speaker A: Oh, well, Fancy. We love you too. [00:53:23] Speaker B: I think we mostly address this. [00:53:26] Speaker A: Well, let's just go. Let's go beat by beat again. Like, I don't think Bosa makes sense given that they don't need any more five techniques. They're covered. [00:53:35] Speaker B: They're good. They need health. They need a little bit of youth. They need. [00:53:39] Speaker A: They need some bounce. They need somebody with some bends, somebody who's out there looking for a good time, not necessarily to make football plays. Like they. How about this? Jake and I have kind of a. Well, I'll speak for myself and I think you'll agree, which is I hate the concept of edge. Like, I'm Sorry, do you not play defensive end? Like, and these. These edges who just, you know, I shoot into the backfield and I get sacks and it's like, yeah, but what happened on first and second down when the left tackle drove you 45 miles outside of town like Brian Dennehy in first blood? [00:54:13] Speaker B: I'm splitting because I do like the word of edge, but what you're talking about, the phenomenon. [00:54:22] Speaker A: Tell me you enjoy edging Abdul. [00:54:26] Speaker B: The springy Abdul Carter's of the world. It's not an archetype I like. [00:54:29] Speaker A: It's hella bad here. [00:54:31] Speaker B: I was just watching it because I was watching, like, Brett talk, by the way, who is actually maybe a tiny, tiny. A little bit of a left guard option for the Niners. Not with a. Not enough of what they need, but, like, could end up starting for them. I just watched Abdul Carter and I was watching against the Darian Loud, and Darian Loud just, like, puts an arm out and Abdul Carter's, like, falling into the dirt because he weighs 200 pounds. Like, it just doesn't work for me personally, so. But we do need someone who's got a little bit of spring, a little bit of craft, a little bit of bend, and I think you can have that. And I think the only option at 27 that makes sense is right now is. Is Mazador. That's not like, a guy who can just Will get thrown around. But again, he is old. [00:55:17] Speaker A: 25, 26, 24. Going on 25, if I remember correctly. [00:55:23] Speaker B: But I think he's 27. [00:55:26] Speaker A: He's 75 years old. Him and Kyle Shanahan went to high school together. It's terrible. It's a real issue that we will deal with. So I. Yeah, listen, it wouldn't shock me at all if both. If Joey Bosa showed up. I do think I've been holding back on this for 55 minutes. I'll just say it now. Like, do you think Joey Bosa is interested in coming to the People's Republic of California? Like, probably not coming back. [00:55:53] Speaker B: Coming back, you mean? [00:55:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, probably not. Actually. Joey's always been a little cool. I've known Joey a long time. Like, he's always been a little bit cooler. [00:56:02] Speaker B: By the way, Mazador turns 25 and, like, right before the draft. [00:56:06] Speaker A: So As I said, 24. Going. Going on 25. [00:56:09] Speaker B: As. [00:56:10] Speaker A: As all 24s are. [00:56:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Again, I think we've talked about edge. Thank you for the question. So this. Since this team keeps getting older, can we look forward to one of those Commander collapses This year [00:56:23] Speaker A: it's a very real possibility. This is in strict reference to the fact that the Washington commanders built the oldest roster in football based around one quarterback who weighs 125 pounds. And then that didn't go well. [00:56:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I think what's interesting is it's like strictly old guys and young guys. They don't have a ton of in betweeners. I don't know. I think, like, it's not like you wanted to add guys who are old, but like, Mike Evans makes a lot of sense. I think Dre Greenlaw is a little bit too feel goody for my taste, but it, it certainly makes sense. He's certainly a guy that's worked for you in the past. And it's probably not actually seven and a half million. [00:57:05] Speaker A: It's probably like not even close. [00:57:07] Speaker B: Yeah, two and a half million guaranteed. And then every four games you play, you get a little bit more guaranteed. [00:57:14] Speaker A: I mean, it starts with a ham sandwich and it ends with like $8 million. And somewhere along the line, there will be certain incentives hit. Yeah, I mean, he's. Every time he passes a physical, he'll get, you know, another $50,000 and an additional ham sandwich. Like, this is all. This is parag written all over it. This is total funny money. And you know what? It's not even at its high end. It's not of a number where it's concerning. Like. Yeah, it just isn't. [00:57:42] Speaker B: It makes. It makes sense. Even if he doesn't play games and [00:57:48] Speaker A: it's a short term, you know, you're signing some guy to like effectively a one year deal. I'm sure that there's a little bit more funny money on that, but like, like, if it doesn't work out, so be it. You gave it a go like you needed to do something. You. He knows, you know, this team probably does value people. It knows a little bit too much, but that is what it is. And I will think back to. I think it was against the Rams. Forgive me if I'm wrong on that, but when Greenlaw was in there with, with Warner last year or two years ago now, it was like, oh, right. That was awesome. Yeah. Kind of like the world's Nick Sorensen's out here just with his, you know, both hands completely up his butthole and, you know, trying to figure out which direction the field is. And they were awful. They were totally awful. And then Dre Greenlaw comes out there and you're like, oh, my God, this defense kicks ass for like 4 quarters total. It was really awesome. So I'd want that feeling again. I'd check chase that dragon if I could and if it cost me a couple million in a ham sandwich, I'd do it. [00:58:52] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that's fair to answer the question, though. [00:58:55] Speaker A: The bottom, the bottom falling out of this operation Chant like the quotient on that very high. Yeah, it's 24 energy. [00:59:05] Speaker B: The biggest thing that's not being talked about is like McCaffrey. [00:59:10] Speaker A: Yes. Well, you know, Patrick Taylor's back, so there's no problems there. They're just going to hand, they're just going to hand the team over. Jordan James, like he had those three awesome carries. [00:59:20] Speaker B: They're going to draft another running back, but it'll be in round four. So the bit will be like, see, we did do it around three. [00:59:28] Speaker A: We wanted to trade up, but we couldn't. No one would take our bid. Exactly. Yeah. [00:59:33] Speaker B: Yeah. What is. What a strange. What a Strange day of 49ers news. Mike Evans, by the way, given a press conference this whole time as Trey Greenlaw signs and Bryce Huff retires. [00:59:43] Speaker A: Best part, they were one piece away [00:59:46] Speaker B: was him saying he wanted to play with a good, good quarterback. I think. I think what was astounding is how much he almost explicitly, but without mentioning the Buccaneers by name when they did not have a chance. So I had to go somewhere that was like even theoretically serious about winning football games. [01:00:10] Speaker A: So that's. Yeah, listen, I mentioned that on Tuesday, like there's too much turnover. Everyone there looks like a sitting duck. And now they're. Because of salary cap stuff. A lot of the guys that they kept bringing back year after year, even after their, you know, league worthiness kind of wore out. Now they're having to get rid of them and it's. There was no, there's no depth. There was no repercussions. That's a team that kind of took the Saints model but didn't do it to the same level of effect because they just didn't have, you know, they, they tried to roll it back after Brady left. They're like, oh, well, we have a Super bowl caliber team. Like, let's just roll it back, roll it back, roll it back. And they did that for like seven years. And there's going to be some cap issues with this and there's certainly going to be some deficiency. And then again, you know, you're in the NFC south, so you might just be the favorite to win it this year, so why not be shitty? You might, might work out for you. [01:01:05] Speaker B: Deep cut from Luis Jamaica. [01:01:07] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [01:01:08] Speaker B: I was Michael Hasty. Truth or early on. It's a deep cut. It's a deep cut. [01:01:15] Speaker A: Well. And no one cut better than Jamaica Hasty, if you might recall. [01:01:19] Speaker B: Last. Last one. Also, could Reddick make more sense than Bosa given the style? [01:01:23] Speaker A: This is Hassan. [01:01:24] Speaker B: Hassan, right. He's had a lot of weird contract stuff in terms of like wanting to play and way too much like not working with his agent. And like, didn't his. Him and his agent split. There's a little too much drama there. [01:01:39] Speaker A: But you want to talk about an [01:01:41] Speaker B: edge though, on the surface, great. That makes sense in terms of the archetype of what he brings. I don't know if you want the headache. [01:01:50] Speaker A: If you want. If you want to spend a little bit of money. Daquan Jones has a lot of juice for somebody who is. Is theoretically a tweener between tackle like a true 5 tech. Like I can even. I can live with the Daquan Jones because he has a lot of bend. He's a really good player. I don't think they can afford him. But every day he's not signed and makes it more reasonable. I'm still in on Al Quadeen Muhammad. I think that's the ideal target. That's a show. Yeah. [01:02:16] Speaker B: Last thing. What a show. What a show. What a day. [01:02:19] Speaker A: Wow. What a crop. [01:02:21] Speaker B: What a crop. [01:02:21] Speaker A: Dump it. This one's busted. [01:02:24] Speaker B: And by the way, right up here, if you're not subscribed, I just put out other way. [01:02:28] Speaker A: Jake. [01:02:28] Speaker B: Latest top 50 board where I also talk about, you know, who moved, who fell out of my top. [01:02:35] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:02:36] Speaker B: What I changed. And then by the way, if you want me to watch somebody, I gotta do behind the curtain. Behind the iron curtain. [01:02:43] Speaker A: Yep, that's right. Still not great. The content fantastic. The name could be better. Needs. [01:02:51] Speaker B: Needs a little change. It. It will not change. It will stay rigid like iron. All right, what I meant to say is comment if there is a prospect. It's a lot of people asking about prospects. If you are a subscriber to the Hutch Report, let me know. Ideally over there, but comment here. I gotta pick somebody out. I tried to watch Justin Jolie that. That went a little sideways, but you got four players and instead of one. So let me know who you want me to watch. And we will be back next week. Really in the heart of draft season. [01:03:23] Speaker A: And yeah, next week. Next week we put all this nonsense to bed. All this free agency. [01:03:27] Speaker B: The night shows, which is news to Dieter. All right, folks. [01:03:34] Speaker A: What? Huh? Huh? Okay. Yeah, we'll do that then. All right, Bye.

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